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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 16, 2017, 18:15 (545 days ago)

Local residents and businesses at La Ropa have apparently finally gotten the municipal government to agree that tour buses should not be allowed at La Ropa, that their passengers are welcome but the roads are too small for the buses, there's no place for them to really park (and we don't want to destroy more vegetation to build them a parking place) and their weight deteriorates the roads too quickly as well as being noisy with their motors running all day. But apparently a lot of locals who don't live at La Ropa feel quite differently, and I perceive a bit of animosity about the residents and businesses trying to keep La Ropa nice for our more affluent tourists. My mother and I lived at La Ropa. I left there 27 years ago but she left many years later. Nevertheless both of us back then suffered quite a bit from the noise and pollution and other inconveniences caused by the big tour buses and their passengers. I recall many times trying to spend a quiet day at home or being home sick while having a tour bus with its motor running and its fumes wafting in our home all day. It was a big reason why my mother eventually moved to Ixtapa all those years ago.

Personally I think banning tour buses from driving there is a smart move for a lot of reasons. As far as I know in most any other residential area that is also a tourist destination buses drop you off at a bus terminal and you walk or take public transportation to your final destination, whether it's a hotel or a public plaza or some other attraction.

How do you all feel about this issue? Are the residents and business owners making a big ado about nothing, or do you think your stay at La Ropa will be improved by the absence of all the tour buses?

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by moonbird1 @, Friday, June 16, 2017, 20:19 (545 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Common sense at last!! that's good news.Thanks for the update Rob.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Friday, June 16, 2017, 20:20 (545 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Sounds reasonable.

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by katherine @, Friday, June 16, 2017, 20:36 (545 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

This is good news, as far as I am concerned.

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Friday, June 16, 2017, 21:12 (545 days ago) @ katherine

Good news for the environment -- not only do the multiple tour buses bring tourists who do not pick up their beach garbage, but they seem not to love the jolla or corona de Zihua (playa la ropa). The bus tourists bring their own food, thereby not supporting the beach restaurants, and they do not pick up after their messes.

The jewel of Zihua is La Ropa y Las Gatas. Please, let's try to keep their jewel status.

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by Sandy feet @, Seattle, Saturday, June 17, 2017, 00:22 (545 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I agree. It's a nightmare when the busses are there. Same problems out at Barra de Potosi.

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by Commander Barrett, Saturday, June 17, 2017, 10:11 (545 days ago) @ Sandy feet

Common sense at last prevailed.
:megusta:

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by Mike from SF @, Saturday, June 17, 2017, 10:51 (545 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I made my comment on Facebook.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, June 17, 2017, 11:04 (545 days ago) @ Mike from SF

I made my comment on Facebook.

Many of my readers don't use Facebook in case you would like to repeat your comment here. I certainly wouldn't mind. ;-)

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by Talley Ho @, Saturday, June 17, 2017, 11:53 (545 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We live right on the main road along La Ropa near the dolphins.

The bus people do spend money on the beach, and regularly rent the tables, chairs and umbrellas that are made available by the city. We have been known to rent them too.

We generally enjoy watching many of them see and play in the ocean for the first time. It's a great opportunity to make the next generation more aware of the environment.

Aren't beaches in Mexico public, not private? If so, the attempt should be made to make the beach accessible in a way that causes as little damage to the area as possible.

The buses don't appear to damage the new, concrete road that runs from town to the dolphins. From there, the asphalt is in bad condition, possibly/probably due to the buses, but what about construction equipment and RV's?

We like several ideas. Continue to use the dirt lot behind La Ceiba Condos as long as it is available, but require the buses to turn off their engines and generators while parked.

Another thought is to provide the bus people with information about the La Ropa combis and taxi's and encourage them to use them, while keeping the buses in town.

Do even more with public education about why leaving trash on the beach is a bad idea, harming the marine life, and provide trash cans that get emptied.

Destroying wetlands for any reason is a bad idea. "Pave paradise, put up a parking lot."

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Saturday, June 17, 2017, 12:05 (545 days ago) @ Talley Ho

All very reasonable, but trying to change a culture to NOT drop their garbage everywhere, would take divine intervention.

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by JoAnna @, Colorado, Saturday, June 17, 2017, 13:45 (545 days ago) @ frostbite

Can't remember a time when I have ever agreed with Labrat! Hummmm!
Certainly not this time!

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by Charlybby, Sunday, June 18, 2017, 14:52 (544 days ago) @ Talley Ho

I must say, I agree with all your comments Rob & Talley ho! It was especially bad this past season. Busloads every single weekend from Halloween/Days of the dead until we left mid April. Then there was all the holidays. The buses filled the lot at the turn by Rossy's, then parked all along the road as well. Traffic nightmare! Spent more time @ Larga this year.

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by HolyMole @, Sunday, June 18, 2017, 15:57 (544 days ago) @ Charlybby

The noise and air pollution from idling tour buses certainly isn't restricted to the La Ropa or La Madera areas. They are a plague wherever they park. How many times we cursed the racket and fumes from tour buses parked near the Hotel Imelda in Centro - and we were staying a block away. Same story when we stayed over in Colonia Zapata: the buses block the streets, foul the air and create a terrific din with their constantly-running engines. I assume the same situation exists for anyone living within earshot of the buses parked along La Boquita or in that huge parking area between the bridge at Plaza Kyoto and the Bomberos station. Aside from banning them in areas where the streets are too narrow, a properly-enforced municipal bylaw should prohibit them running their engines at all times except when they are loading or unloading passengers. I know.....it's Mexico, and applying north-of-the-border logic is an ethnocentric exercise in futility.

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by Charlybby, Monday, June 19, 2017, 01:56 (543 days ago) @ HolyMole

:megusta:

Exhaust fumes?

by Pam & Denny @, Wednesday, June 21, 2017, 12:50 (541 days ago) @ HolyMole

Is this what is turning the bottom of my shoes black?

Exhaust fumes?

by HolyMole @, Wednesday, June 21, 2017, 14:45 (541 days ago) @ Pam & Denny

Is this what is turning the bottom of my shoes black?

Shoes? How about your lungs?
Walk around barefoot in your house and see what Zihua air does for the bottoms of your feet!
But I'd go back in a heartbeat.

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by Talley Ho @, Wednesday, June 21, 2017, 20:45 (540 days ago) @ HolyMole

Do return. I think the four of us have an outstanding date for drinks.....

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by DEBMN @, rosemount mn, Wednesday, June 21, 2017, 11:21 (541 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We stay at the end of La Ropa, down where the buses park, and yes it is bad. The noise, the fumes all day long. One day there was 11 buses there. I don't mind the tourist, it would be nice if they cared about the environment a little more, but the buses are a nuisance.

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by jbmass ⌂ @, Mass,.. N.H...Zih., Thursday, June 22, 2017, 10:56 (540 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

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by Talley Ho @, Thursday, June 22, 2017, 11:17 (540 days ago) @ jbmass

Be sure to read the comments at the end of the article, too. Some very good ones.