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Transportation strike

by mosesk @, Ojai, CA, USA, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 11:59 (33 days ago)

Can someone comment on the stoppage of public transportation (combis, e.g.) due to some unfortunate events that happened yesterday/last night.

Thank you

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Transportation strike

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 13:04 (33 days ago) @ mosesk

Can someone comment on the stoppage of public transportation (combis, e.g.) due to some unfortunate events that happened yesterday/last night.

Thank you

No urvans or micros are running today due to some unfortunate events that happened yesterday. It is a work stoppage. It is not a strike.

Is that what you wanted?

I don't believe it is helpful to speculate on anything at this time.

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Transportation strike

by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 13:08 (33 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Earlier it was reported that the Playa la Ropa combi was running. It no longer is.

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Transportation strike

by mosesk @, Ojai, CA, USA, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 13:13 (33 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Can someone comment on the stoppage of public transportation (combis, e.g.) due to some unfortunate events that happened yesterday/last night.

Thank you


No urvans or micros are running today due to some unfortunate events that happened yesterday. It is a work stoppage. It is not a strike.

Is that what you wanted?

I don't believe it is helpful to speculate on anything at this time.

"Instead of indulging in mere speculation, devote yourself here and now to the search for the Truth that is ever within you."
-- Ramana Maharshi

Transportation strike

by zulualpha, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 13:37 (33 days ago) @ mosesk
edited by zulualpha, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 15:59

The withdrawal of public transport (combis) Saturday is in response to the burning of three combi vehicles (type Urvan) last evening. These burnings took place adjacent to city hall. Social media reflect upset and indignation at these events, if for no other reason than that thousands of folks were unable to get to work this a.m. It is not known when service will resume.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 13:59 (33 days ago) @ zulualpha

The withdrawal of public transport (combis) Saturday is in response to the burning of three combi vehicles (type Urvan) last evening. These events took place adjacent to city hall. Social media reflect upset and indignation at these events, if for no other reason than that thousands of folks were unable to get to work this a.m. It is not known when service will resume.

i.e. "some unfortunate events"

One of the vehicles I saw a photo of looked like a full bus.

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by JACK @, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 14:07 (33 days ago) @ zulualpha

ACAPULCO, Gro., November 1, 2019 @ 20:28hrs - Three public service urvans were set on fire during the last four hours, in different events in the municipality of Zihuatanejo, Costa Grande region of the state. According to the information obtained, a first event occurred at 6 pm on the side of Boulevard de Zihuatanejo, by the Chevrolet car agency. Individuals forced the driver of an Urvan on the Coacoyul-Centro route to stop, let out the passengers and then sprayed gasoline to the vehicle. Being on a slope, the Urvan began to descend and stopped when it crashed into a car of the Ford brand, Focus type, which was parked and the flames reached another compact car. An hour later on Heroico Colegio Militar avenue, another Urvan of public transport was set on fire, with no injured people, as the driver got off before the incident. At 9 p.m., the fire of a third public service Urvan was reported, now by the Fragatas subdivision, on the federal highway to the Zihuatanejo airport. In all three cases, firefighters stifled the fire, the State Police and the National Guard were also present, who cordoned off the area awaiting the arrival of agents of the State Attorney General's Office

The original text of this article was published by the Quadratin Agency at the following address: https://guerrero.quadratin.com.mx/queman-3-urvans-en-las-ultimas-4-horas-en-zihuatanejo/

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 14:21 (33 days ago) @ JACK

Apparently all of this was already known by mosesk, so I don’t see your point in posting it here, but now you’ve certainly got a lot of folks alarmed. Gee, thanks. Still no new info, and there’s unlikely to be any. But I’m sure there will be plenty of speculation.

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by Casa Juan @, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 14:25 (33 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

maybe its just me but it seemed like an important piece of information to raise. Many would not have known and like myself would have waited endlessly for a combi that would never materialize.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 14:48 (33 days ago) @ Casa Juan

Transporte público should be back in business by 3pm today according to the mayor.

Mosesk’s original message stated there was no public transportation via combis.

But now there is.

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by mosesk @, Ojai, CA, USA, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 15:27 (33 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Apparently all of this was already known by mosesk, so I don’t see your point in posting it here, but now you’ve certainly got a lot of folks alarmed. Gee, thanks. Still no new info, and there’s unlikely to be any. But I’m sure there will be plenty of speculation.

of course I knew "something'" was going on.
I was particularly interested if anyone had insight into more specific what/where/why/how's.
But I took your advice to leave speculation behind.
And as of yet I don't see any, although to be honest I would certainly like to know what's behind it.

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by mosesk @, Ojai, CA, USA, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 15:45 (33 days ago) @ mosesk

Apparently all of this was already known by mosesk, so I don’t see your point in posting it here, but now you’ve certainly got a lot of folks alarmed. Gee, thanks. Still no new info, and there’s unlikely to be any. But I’m sure there will be plenty of speculation.


of course I knew "something'" was going on.
I was particularly interested if anyone had insight into more specific what/where/why/how's.
But I took your advice to leave speculation behind.
And as of yet I don't see any, although to be honest I would certainly like to know what's behind it.

I first noticed mention of it on "the other (facebook) page", which by the way has been deleted.
I then read about it on some of the Spanish news sites- both web and facebook to try to get a sense of what was happening.
I then posted here to get possible "boots on the ground" info.
Rob- as it's your page- I'm assuming you can easily delete entire threads when you assess they are unnecessarily "alarming".
When I am in Z I walk almost everywhere.
But I would like to know what's going on with public transportation for the times I might want to take a combi or a taxi.

Transportation strike/arson

by zulualpha, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 15:53 (33 days ago) @ mosesk

Seems you asked an honest and relevant question. Jack and I answered it, based on news reports. The moderator is uncomfortable with those facts, considering them alarmist, but surely people have a right to know, so as to draw their own conclusions.
For likely English language accounts of these vehicle burnings, check later today or tomorrow www.mexiconewsdaily.com.

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by mosesk @, Ojai, CA, USA, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 16:06 (33 days ago) @ zulualpha

Seems you asked an honest and relevant question. Jack and I answered it, based on news reports. The moderator is uncomfortable with those facts, considering them alarmist, but surely people have a right to know, so as to draw their own conclusions.
For likely English language accounts of these vehicle burnings, check later today or tomorrow www.mexiconewsdaily.com.

Thank you!

Transportation strike/arson

by zulualpha, Saturday, November 02, 2019, 16:32 (33 days ago) @ mosesk

I use combis several times a week, so my own interest in this news event is of particular interest.

Update: At 2.34 this p.m. Sur Acapulco news outlet quoted the major of Zihuatanejo as saying the combi operators have asked police to provide security along the routes driven. So the work stoppage was meant to pressure municipal and state governments to take action in the interests of public security.


No speculation there.

Transportation strike/arson

by Ironwood, Sunday, November 03, 2019, 00:06 (33 days ago) @ zulualpha

I use combis several times a week, so my own interest in this news event is of particular interest.

Update: At 2.34 this p.m. Sur Acapulco news outlet quoted the major of Zihuatanejo as saying the combi operators have asked police to provide security along the routes driven. So the work stoppage was meant to pressure municipal and state governments to take action in the interests of public security.


No speculation there.

I'm surprised that they would have any confidence in the ability of the police to provide security to anyone.

Transportation strike/arson

by Casa Juan @, Wednesday, November 06, 2019, 13:07 (29 days ago) @ zulualpha

Has any cause or group been identified as being behind the bus burnings? Additionally what has actually been agreed to convince the combi operators to start rolling again?

Transportation strike/arson

by ZihuaRx @, Sunday, November 03, 2019, 20:37 (32 days ago) @ zulualpha

Thanks for the information. I really don't mean to offend anyone and though I may not agree with Rob on the selective news that is on this board it's his board and I understand where he is coming from. That said, I've coming to Zihua for over 25 yeas and this year I plan on driving down so I personally would like to be informed on what is happening in Zihua and the surrounding area. I'm not really a facebook person, but I guess I could be. Should I just be checking in on mexiconewsdaily.com. Any info (advice) would be appreciated. Gracias.

Driving through Mexico?

by zulualpha, Monday, November 04, 2019, 08:20 (31 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

Have you driven through Mexico before? What have you been told about, or heard about or read about driving in Mexico? We kinda need to know your experience level, or your awareness level.

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Driving through Mexico?

by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Monday, November 04, 2019, 09:07 (31 days ago) @ zulualpha

We've been told never to drive at night and to stay on the toll roads as much as possible. That worked well for us when we had a car in Zihua. We sold it because parking is a pain in the area and cabs are cheap and the drivers are used to the often crazy driving habits of the locals. A bonus: you can enjoy the views when someone else is doing the driving.

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Driving through Mexico?

by ZihuaRx @, Monday, November 04, 2019, 10:17 (31 days ago) @ zulualpha

A couple on this board have been nice enough to give me the Driving In Mexico for Dummies guide, which I really appreciate. Coming through Texas, taking toll roads all the way and only driving during the day and not being in a hurry..... I guess are the main things. To be honest, my biggest concern is probably getting my vehicle jacked, but you only live once and La vida es corta. We have an old beater down in Zihua that no one would want to steal, but I wouldn't want to make the 4000 km trip in a beater. Take care.

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Transportation strike/arson

by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, November 04, 2019, 10:12 (31 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

Over the past 37 years we have driven over 200,000 miles in Mexico and covered a large part of the country.

Sure wish the drivers in the US had the manners that the Mexicans do. Using flashers when slowing down, if there is a problem (car stopped, cows) ahead, flashing lights at oncoming traffic while giving the slow down arm out the window.

We have experienced demonstrations at toll booths, trucks shutting down roads, burning vehicles, blown up bridges, the "war" in Chiapas. In each case, the local and highway police, who ever they were at the time, always made sure that no one was driving into a serious problem. Yes, in Tobasco once we had to stay at a Pemex for 2 nights until the bridge was retaken and made passable, but there was so much security around that it was an interesting experience, not a life threatening one.

Two years ago, just south of Guadalajara, the highway police stopped every car, asked where they were going and for those of us heading toward Morelia, funneling them off of the toll road and onto other roads. A toll booth had been taken, and they detoured traffic onto other roads to avoid the issue. No problem. We got to see a new area!

You will be traveling with non-Mexican license plates which will make others really watch out for you on the highways and in the case of truck blockades, we were often escorted through in acts of kindness and wanting tourists to have a great impression of their country.

Unless the world ends, the only thing you are likely to experience is toll booths being taken over. This is a very popular way to protest. What happens? No tolls are collected, donations encouraged, and possibly you will receive a paper that explains their complaints. We generally found that with US plates, we were smiled at, occasionally had our hands shaken and were not encouraged to make donations.

Enjoy your drive down, you'll have a great trip.

Transportation strike/arson

by ZihuaRx @, Monday, November 04, 2019, 10:30 (31 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Muchas gracias. You guys remind me of that great Monty Python song "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life. Thanks again and I hope to see you out on your boards early January

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Transportation strike/arson

by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, November 04, 2019, 11:03 (31 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

:-D

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Getting around

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, November 04, 2019, 10:51 (31 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

Thanks for the information. I really don't mean to offend anyone and though I may not agree with Rob on the selective news that is on this board it's his board and I understand where he is coming from. That said, I've coming to Zihua for over 25 yeas and this year I plan on driving down so I personally would like to be informed on what is happening in Zihua and the surrounding area. I'm not really a facebook person, but I guess I could be. Should I just be checking in on mexiconewsdaily.com. Any info (advice) would be appreciated. Gracias.

Not really trying to be selective, but more trying to keep discussions relevant. Zihuatanejo has had bad people trying to make a living off the good and honest hard working people for decades, but it is NOT something locals are used to, and the details are onion layers upon onion layers whose surface was barely scratched in this conversation and about which no newspaper or foreign resident will ever report correctly. Personally I don't wish to feed into morbid curiosity. Vehicles were torched, but no lives were threatened. While it certainly looks like simple extorsion, nothing is simple here, and other things are going on in the state and the region which should be considered factors. Few things are what they appear to be here in Mexico, and especially here in Guerrero. But I would let you know if there were a public danger beyond the ordinary daily lawlessness.

All the local combis and microsuses aren't yet running, but it appears it has more to do with getting signatures on papers promising money and favors from the government than with anything else. The buses are running to Petatlán and Ixtapa. If you still have trouble finding a combi try making a friend and sharing a taxi, just don't tell the taxi driver you're sharing the ride and he or she can't say anything (taxis aren't permitted to offer colectivo service anymore). We got by for decades without all these combis, and there have been many work stoppages before for less nefarious reasons. We do what we can and we do what we have to do to get by.

Getting around

by ZihuaRx @, Monday, November 04, 2019, 11:41 (31 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thanks Rob. As mentioned, I totally understand. I really do appreciate this board and the pictures that you post. I am not sure when you started this board, but I think I have been using it since our first time down there which was over 25 years ago. Were computers even invented then? All the best.