Turtle Eggs

by Keytime @, Sunday, October 10, 2021, 16:55 (48 days ago)

on La Ropa, it was noticed what appeared to be two officials, one environmental and the other beach patrol, digging up turtle eggs. They were bagged, numbered and wheel barreled away. I would say 6-7 small plastic bags full. Does anyone know where they are being taken to and does this relocation and transport increase their chance of survival?

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Sunday, October 10, 2021, 17:00 (48 days ago) @ Keytime

Yes and yes.

There is a new "hatchery" just south of La Perla, next door to Casa de los Pajaros. It's hard to miss, decorated in bright colors with a turtle on the front.

The eggs they dig up are in bad places, places where the high tides expose them and they will just wash away with no chance of hatching.

This morning the high tide was at 7:30am, and in many places the waves came right up to existing fences or natural barricades. Any eggs that were between the fences and the water line are very often lost.

This time of year we get a lot of nesting turtles, more when there is moon light, less with no moon. This morning there were only 3 visible haul outs, but again, the tide was VERY high. We had a count of 46 just 10 days ago.

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by Keytime @, Sunday, October 10, 2021, 21:28 (48 days ago) @ Talley Ho

:megusta:

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by Yandosan, Sunday, October 10, 2021, 21:56 (48 days ago) @ Keytime

Stupid question...why are turtles so protected?
They seem to be quite abundant.
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by Padrino ⌂ @, San Diego, California USA, Monday, October 11, 2021, 00:37 (47 days ago) @ Yandosan

Stupid question...why are turtles so protected?
They seem to be quite abundant.
..

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-54724723

The good news is that COVID actually helped the turtles lay more eggs this past year.

The bad news is that it appears they are still in danger of extinction.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, October 11, 2021, 09:12 (47 days ago) @ Padrino

Stupid question...why are turtles so protected?
They seem to be quite abundant.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-54724723

The good news is that COVID actually helped the turtles lay more eggs this past year.

The bad news is that it appears they are still in danger of extinction.

Octopi should also be protected and respected. Not eaten.


https://youtu.be/3s0LTDhqe5A

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by hromero ⌂ @, Monday, October 11, 2021, 09:50 (47 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

:megusta:

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www.casaarcoiriszihuatanejo.com

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by Yandosan, Monday, October 11, 2021, 10:52 (47 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Octopi are being studied by Neuroscientists...
Their freakish intelligence may derive from an evolutionary
Pathway distinct from intelligence found in primates.

a brain in each arm

by mindpilot @, la Playa Buenavista, Thursday, October 14, 2021, 06:44 (44 days ago) @ Yandosan

This is an extraordinarily interesting subject. Octopi are wicked smart and have developed amazing survival techniques. and like you say developed an intelligence along a different path than the mammalian thing we usually call intelligence, but arrived at roughly the same level of smart. Which is a bit of a freaky thought on it's own. The idea makes it even more likely that sentient life exits elsewhere.

A few decades ago the wife and I at the Aquarium in SFO. It was late and we were alone in the room with the big octopus tank. The octopus became very interested in interacting with us. I swear if I had more arms to wave around and could change color, we could have had a pleasant conversation. It even followed us to the end of the tank as we left. One of those animal contact moments that make you realize we are not so different...and we ain't special either.

That Netflix show...I gotta remember to watch it. TY for the reminder.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, October 11, 2021, 14:19 (47 days ago) @ Yandosan
edited by Talley Ho, Monday, October 11, 2021, 14:25

It wasn't that many years ago that turtles were actively harvested and eaten here. You would go into a mercado or even a supermarket in many places and see one on the counter cut up in chunks. Turtle oil was made out of them, all kinds of misc things including hair combs too. They were very very easy to just grab, and it almost wiped them out. In 1990 the laws changed and protections were put in place. The populations here are recovering, but it's still a real challenge. There are still a few of the older population who think that is should be/is OK to collect the eggs to eat and even grab a turtle to eat.

Having always lived with tortoises, it's kind of a lifelong thing for us. Turtles and tortoises of size are usually as smart as an average dog, not something that should be eaten when there are other choices.

The Galapagos tortoises were almost wiped out, and some species were, because the ships going by the islands would just fill their holds with them, and eat them when they needed food.

A link to a very short article: https://www.mexperience.com/travel/outdoors/sea-turtles-in-mexico/

Here's the actual regulation that went into effect in 1990: http://www.seaturtle.org/mtn/archives/mtn50/mtn50p1.shtml