What There Is....

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, August 06, 2017, 12:33 (223 days ago) @ mexicowanderer

In REALITY is a comprehensive years-long study. In conjunction with the Netherlands. An astute study of the effects of LEGAL DRUGS on society. From overall macro-economic impact to crime, quality of life including living standards, the ability of businesses to survive in high drug density areas, to health issues and the "load of no-discipline drug use on society"

It was a shocker when it was published. It has permanently colored my decisions regarding unregulated, wide-open drug use. I am not going to bother to "color" this response with excerpts - which would be totally out of context. My response title was strong enough.

I suggest you RESEARCH for the findings then study (not merely "read";) them. They are cold hard cruel statistics.

One bit of COLOR though. This is a bit of FACT: Just a week ago the LA Times reported how California, has accumulated TEN TIMES the quantity of legal pot in oversupply. Even a fool can deduce WHY. California pot costs a minimum of TEN TIMES that of street marijuana imported from Mexico. Yeah, I did the research and found hard numbers, including asking Californiano friends who smoke pot. You demand people pay 1000% premium price just because it is legal?

This is exactly in parallel to the age of prohibition if a bottle of bootleg whiskey that cost $3 would consumers have paid thirty dollars for the same bottle of LEGAL whiskey. Don't be ridiculous.

Knuckleheads drive all the way across US cities to "save" thirty cents a gallon on gasoline.

But it was the crisis in Denmark and the Netherlands that caught my eye. This is (not was) the result of let-it-all-hang-out (dis)controlling of all drugs.

Another point is this...after a serious auto accident blood alcohol levels can be easily established by law enforcement. How does one measure blood cannabis level? To claim being stoned does not impact driver safety would not be wise.

Can I tell you of a telephone call I made to a California supplier a couple of months ago? The salesperson was male and young. He could not remember a three alpha-numerical part number. Repeated it three times. Finally he started giggling and I hung up. The kid was stone-cold-out of his gourd on pot.

Neat Huh? People who kill and maim while overdosed on alcohol are bad enough. Legalization of pot with no control will cause "A News Sensation" once enough people have have killed or hurt. But then that's not enough. Some folks want stronger, more disabling drugs to be made available.

Sorry. I play the part of a Duck in a Shooting Gallery rather poorly.

With all due respect, I'm afraid your prejudice and ignorance on the matter blinds you. The War On Drugs is killing people by the hundreds of thousands, mostly via firearms. Many more than would be dying if all those stupidly banned substances were legal. I don't know about Europe, but the stupid War On Drugs and the prohibition that empowers violent organized criminals throughout America is ruining tens of millions lives, from Argentina to Mexico. Mostly just to supply the US market, though there is also a sizeable European market that's being supplied various substances by several American nations.

Since apparently you've never smoked pot, I urge you not to compare it to alcohol. Personally I've never even heard of pot causing a traffic accident, though I suppose it's possible, and I'm sure someone scouring newspapers can find an article that fits your bias. The one in a million that made the news.

I believe one of the justices on Mexico's Corte Suprema de la Nación, Zaldívar Lelo de Larrea, expressed it best when he stated that adults have a right to decide the direction of their lives and how to channel that direction in their private lives, elaborating further by stating adults have a right to decide without outside interference what type of recreational or personally pleasing activities they wish to enjoy as well as the manners in which they wish to realize this choice. Always with the underlying basic premise common in Mexican thinking that one's personal rights end where another's begin.

So if you don't want to experiment with artificial methods of recreational relaxation beyond alcohol, sugar, spices, spirituality, aromas, and whatever substances your doctor gives you, that is your right, but you don't have the right to dictate to others how to enjoy their lives.

Apart from the 40 million or so regular US consumers of stupidly banned substances, a high percentage of up and coming young people will sooner or later experiment with them. So the question is this. Would you prefer they acquire those substances from an unscrupulous underworld back-alley dealer who could care less about the health of the consumer, who may just rip them off and hurt or kill them, and who, depending on the substance, may mix in cheap toxins or other substances to increase their own profit, or would you prefer that young person be able to acquire "clean" pharmaceutical grade quality substances in a safe environment and to be able to use them in a safe environment? Too many young people are driven to living a double life: the one in front of their parents and family at home, and the one they live on the streets with their friends and acquaintances. It is better for everyone involved if they don't have to pretend in front of their parents, but the closed and authoritative mindset of most US parents thanks to the pressures of society prohibits such honesty, and thus they act surprised when their little angel dies of a heroin overdose in some back alley or abandoned building. This is the reality millions of parents are currently facing in the USA. The War On Drugs and Prohibition 2.0 is an all around abject and deadly failure, as it has been for over 50 years. How long does a policy have to fail before it is fixed? 50 years? A hundred? The resources wasted on militarized police forces and criminalizing users and dealers is pathetic and shameful, though I'm sure the NRA loves it that US arms dealers make billions selling to both the US police forces and the Mexican cartels. A win-win for them. But after over 50 years the problem is worse than ever. There are more heroin users addicted and dying than ever. And countries such as the one where my wife and I live continue paying the highest price for this obviously failed US policy.

The way you felt when you spoke to the allegedly stoned supplier in California is the way I feel when I have to again and again explain what to me is the obvious to folks with more erroneous preconceived notions than common sense.

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