In Progress Trip Observations

by John Redcorn, Tuesday, June 06, 2017, 12:47 (75 days ago)

Ten days in a few more to go. A couple of observations:

If anyone likes solitude this is the time to come. Playa Larga was deserted with no sight of anyone other than the restaurant workers and a few vendors all day. Same can be said for La Barra, but a few Mexican families enjoying the day. Very pleasant.

The weather has been great with a few showers in the PM. Hot and sunny during the day.

The one downer this trip is it seems to me downtown is getting a bit more boozy and rowdy. Dont get me wrong, i like to puond a few back so not one to chastise but it seems to be turning into a little party town. Sunday and Saturday night at the basketball court was a bit more hectic and not as welcoming as I have observed in the last 20 or so visits. Another instance we were driving near the Bombero station at 4PM or so and passed a parked tour bus. There was a man standing in the middle of the road pissing, facing traffic. Thankfully my 8 year old daughter was looking out the other window. I got rear ended by a drunk while being at a complete stop for 5 minutes due to the 5k run they had going on. And on the way to go fishing at 630AM I passed a bar near Scotia Bank with folks still drinking / passed out and music blaring.

Hopefully just had a run of bad luck but definitely nothing to ruin an other great extended family vacation.

We have been North to Saladita and South to La Barra and points between. Curious what that large building going up on the road between Los Llanos and Saldita. Chicken processing place maybe?

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In Progress Trip Observations

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, June 06, 2017, 13:13 (75 days ago) @ John Redcorn

Ten days in a few more to go. A couple of observations:

If anyone likes solitude this is the time to come. Playa Larga was deserted with no sight of anyone other than the restaurant workers and a few vendors all day. Same can be said for La Barra, but a few Mexican families enjoying the day. Very pleasant.

The weather has been great with a few showers in the PM. Hot and sunny during the day.

The one downer this trip is it seems to me downtown is getting a bit more boozy and rowdy. Dont get me wrong, i like to puond a few back so not one to chastise but it seems to be turning into a little party town. Sunday and Saturday night at the basketball court was a bit more hectic and not as welcoming as I have observed in the last 20 or so visits. Another instance we were driving near the Bombero station at 4PM or so and passed a parked tour bus. There was a man standing in the middle of the road pissing, facing traffic. Thankfully my 8 year old daughter was looking out the other window. I got rear ended by a drunk while being at a complete stop for 5 minutes due to the 5k run they had going on. And on the way to go fishing at 630AM I passed a bar near Scotia Bank with folks still drinking / passed out and music blaring.

Hopefully just had a run of bad luck but definitely nothing to ruin an other great extended family vacation.

Really sorry to hear about these unfortunate experiences with our "alcohol culture". It seems to all of us here except the so-called authorities that downtown has become an open-air cantina and urinal. Our municipal government has been receiving complaints about the bars, drunks and noise for the best part of the past decade, yet the problem worsens with each administration and this one is no exception. At the risk of physical harm many of my neighbors and I are keeping up the pressure on the municipal government to attend to our grievances and to help us maintain Zihuatanejo as a family-oriented community and destination, but it's hard to get through to folks who don't want to listen or who simply don't know better themselves. If a person is raised in an alcohol culture or with no real cultural upbringing at all then it seems normal to them and they don't see anything wrong.

We have been North to Saladita and South to La Barra and points between. Curious what that large building going up on the road between Los Llanos and Saldita. Chicken processing place maybe?

Maybe Los Pollos Hermanos? :devil:

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In Progress Trip Observations; local alcoholism

by jaui @, Zihuatanejo, Thursday, June 08, 2017, 14:02 (73 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Jueves 08 VI 2017

:megusta:

Rob's reply was an exact description of reality here in Z.
Hit the nail on the head. Ha dado justo en el clavo.
Z has became a paradise, but for the "alcohol culture".

And, as far as:
"If a person is raised in an alcohol culture or with no real cultural upbringing at all then it seems normal to them and they don't see anything wrong"

Apparently, THAT is a MAJOR problem here, & is "el pan de cada día", unfortunately.
It leads to an endless cycle of a society based on the consumption of alcohol.

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jaui

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In Progress Trip Observations - the big building

by Emmet ⌂ @, Seattle WA, Tuesday, June 06, 2017, 13:18 (75 days ago) @ John Redcorn

My understanding is that is a mango processing plant. It's huge!

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In Progress Trip Observations - the big building

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, June 06, 2017, 13:34 (75 days ago) @ Emmet

My understanding is that is a mango processing plant. It's huge!

:megusta:
Now THAT is good news! Our region has been needing one for a long time!

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In Progress Trip Observations - the big building

by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Tuesday, June 06, 2017, 14:08 (75 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Roadside Mango Puree!!

(he thinks seriously about moving)

Keith

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Más Chile Más Mejor

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In Progress Trip Observations - the big building

by Hunter-MX ⌂ @, Troncones, Gro. Mexico, Tuesday, June 06, 2017, 16:11 (75 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

It will be used for drying mangos for export.

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www.williammertz.photography

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In Progress Trip Observations - the big building

by Emmet ⌂ @, Seattle WA, Tuesday, June 06, 2017, 16:21 (75 days ago) @ Hunter-MX

It's just my understanding that it's for mangos...and I was wrong...once. US mango consumption is skyrocketing thought:
Yummy Mangos!

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by noelofthenorth, Tuesday, June 06, 2017, 16:51 (75 days ago) @ Emmet

For the last couple or three years most of the stores are carrying mangoes with the boxes marked Ixtapa Mangoes... always makes me miss the place....

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by HolyMole @, Thursday, June 08, 2017, 14:35 (73 days ago) @ noelofthenorth

For the last couple or three years most of the stores are carrying mangoes with the boxes marked Ixtapa Mangoes... always makes me miss the place....

But if I recall correctly, those Ixtapa Mangoes are just a brand name, not an indication they originate in Ixtapa.
On the plus side, for the first time in memory, our local grocery store had Mexican bananas the other day, instead of the usual Guatemalan or Ecuadorean.

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by Sunshine, Canada, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Saturday, June 10, 2017, 04:49 (71 days ago) @ HolyMole

I also believed these Mangoes were from Ixtapa not a brand. I would do a happy dance thinking they were from Ixtapa!

Ixtapa Mangoes

by HolyMole @, Sunday, June 11, 2017, 12:57 (70 days ago) @ Sunshine
edited by HolyMole, Sunday, June 11, 2017, 13:04

I also believed these Mangoes were from Ixtapa not a brand. I would do a happy dance thinking they were from Ixtapa!

If the Thread Kreep Kops will indulge, here's the skinny on those "Ixtapa Mangoes":
The box label says "Grown and Packed by Empaques de Mangos del Pacifico, Parque Industrial Cuamatla, Cuatitlan Izcalli, Edo. de Mexico".
So the grower/packer is headquartered in the State of Mexico - some 600+ km away from Ixtapa, on the coast.
(Cuatitlan Izcalli, according to Wikipedia, is the 8th largest city in Mexico, with a population of over 475,000. Who knew? And like most other Mexican cities, the actual population is probably closer to double that.)
Although I don't recall seeing any large mango plantations near Ixtapa, the mangoes may still have originated there, given the company name "Empaques de Mangos del Pacifico."

And just to really tease the TKK, I have to relay a wonderful quote heard the other day on a TV political discussion involving.....well, I'll let you figure out who was being discussed:

"He's so crooked, if he swallowed a nail, he'd shit a corkscrew".

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Ixtapa Mangoes

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, June 11, 2017, 14:59 (70 days ago) @ HolyMole

I also believed these Mangoes were from Ixtapa not a brand. I would do a happy dance thinking they were from Ixtapa!


If the Thread Kreep Kops will indulge, here's the skinny on those "Ixtapa Mangoes":
The box label says "Grown and Packed by Empaques de Mangos del Pacifico, Parque Industrial Cuamatla, Cuatitlan Izcalli, Edo. de Mexico".
So the grower/packer is headquartered in the State of Mexico - some 600+ km away from Ixtapa, on the coast.
(Cuatitlan Izcalli, according to Wikipedia, is the 8th largest city in Mexico, with a population of over 475,000. Who knew? And like most other Mexican cities, the actual population is probably closer to double that.)
Although I don't recall seeing any large mango plantations near Ixtapa, the mangoes may still have originated there, given the company name "Empaques de Mangos del Pacifico."

And just to really tease the TKK, I have to relay a wonderful quote heard the other day on a TV political discussion involving.....well, I'll let you figure out who was being discussed:

"He's so crooked, if he swallowed a nail, he'd shit a corkscrew".

You haven't seen our mango groves? Our region is one of the leading mango producers in the nation, but we don't have a packing plant so they must be shipped elsewhere for export. A friend of mine in Petatlán, Don Benjamín Verboonen, was one of the leading growers until he was murdered a couple of years ago.

In Progress Trip Observations - the big building

by noelofthenorth, Friday, June 23, 2017, 12:20 (58 days ago) @ HolyMole

Shopping today in Montreal bought Mexican Grapes, Avocados, Mangoes, and Tomatoes... Only thing Mexican I did not buy were Mexican shrimp processed in Thailand??

In Progress Trip Observations - the big building

by midalake @, Friday, June 23, 2017, 13:00 (58 days ago) @ noelofthenorth

Shopping today in Montreal bought Mexican Grapes, Avocados, Mangoes, and Tomatoes... Only thing Mexican I did not buy were Mexican shrimp processed in Thailand??


So much cheaper in the centro mercado...........Hope you are coming this year;-)

D

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by noelofthenorth, Saturday, June 24, 2017, 09:03 (57 days ago) @ midalake

Not sure about the price. They were 99 cents a pound Canadian which is about 23 cents American.. The avocados were from Urupan at 70 cents each.. don t trust anything from Thailand and also read a recent article where the some of the fishing fleet use slave labour..

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Compras Mexicanas

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 23, 2017, 14:21 (58 days ago) @ noelofthenorth

Shopping today in Montreal bought Mexican Grapes, Avocados, Mangoes, and Tomatoes... Only thing Mexican I did not buy were Mexican shrimp processed in Thailand??

Good call on the shrimp! B-)