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by Johnny Briefcase @, Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 17:21 (364 days ago)

There is now a total ban on personal travel by U.S. government personnel in Guerrero, eliminating the option of traveling to Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo by air. [unquote]


http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/us-warns-of-violence-in-tourist-destinations/


This Is the first I've heard of it. ...JB

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by Tere @, Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 17:59 (364 days ago) @ Johnny Briefcase

Didn't sound right, so I checked the US State Dept.'s travel warnings. They've been updated today, and now include Zihuatanejo, but don't mention Ixtapa, as prohibited travel for US governmental personnel. Good thing I don't work for the US Government and live here! Went snorkeling near Las Gatas yesterday and had dolphins in front of our boat on the way back to the pier.

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by Paulf @, Mount Sterling, Ky 40353, Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 10:53 (363 days ago) @ Tere

My son is in the FBI in Chicago, he was told years ago he was not to vacation in Mexico. He has been telling us for years we should not vacation in our favorite place that it was unsafe. Why don't the Federal Government put out a bulletin- no traveling to Chicago.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 12:31 (363 days ago) @ Paulf

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by B&S @, Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 12:34 (363 days ago) @ Paulf

Should add Hawaii to the travel ban. We have a nut case in No. Korea aiming nukes at us. Can't wait to get out of here.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 18:01 (364 days ago) @ Johnny Briefcase

There is now a total ban on personal travel by U.S. government personnel in Guerrero, eliminating the option of traveling to Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo by air.


http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/us-warns-of-violence-in-tourist-destinations/


This Is the first I've heard of it. ...JB

That's almost funny coming from the nation with literally thousands of nuclear weapons and terrorists dedicated to its destruction.

First the sensationalized lie about tainted liquor being sold to tourists and now this. Anyone else smell a hit job?

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by Mexalberta @, Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 21:14 (364 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Kind of like Field of Dreams in reverse!

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by Lilyana, Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 22:27 (364 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

:megusta:

...and it stinks.

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by Sunshine, Canada, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 09:06 (364 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob, please explain to me why you and others think or say that the tainted liquor served at resorts is a lie. There have been discussions about this by local people and tourists for at least a decade........ Who is telling the lie?
Thanks Irene

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by Craig AKA the cruise ship guy @, Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 09:38 (364 days ago) @ Sunshine

Have you been to an AI and watch all the people at the swim up bar pound drinks back? Now have you read reports of groups of people passing out from tainted alcohol? Think about it as it doesn't add up. This is all media hype. Remember the swine flu scare or that all you personal information is imprinted on your room key or how about the Vegas one where someone drugs your drink and you wake up missing a kidney.

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by Lilyana, Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 19:44 (363 days ago) @ Craig AKA the cruise ship guy

:megusta:

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by Lilyana, Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 19:53 (363 days ago) @ Craig AKA the cruise ship guy

Craig AKA you are right. The numbers just don't make sense if there is so much "tainted" liquor at AI resorts there should be far more poisoning incidents reported. Something just seems off.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 09:57 (363 days ago) @ Sunshine

Rob, please explain to me why you and others think or say that the tainted liquor served at resorts is a lie. There have been discussions about this by local people and tourists for at least a decade........ Who is telling the lie?
Thanks Irene

To date there is simply no MEDICAL or FORENSIC EVIDENCE to support the claim. No "tainted alcohol" was recovered in any hotel or tourist bar. Tourists on vacation tend to drink too much alcohol. And OF COURSE All-Included hotels give them cheap brands of alcohol as part of the package. And cheap alcohol is notorious for causing bad hangovers and other maladies.

So why do you believe that the liquor being served at resorts was tainted?

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by Mexalberta @, Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 21:50 (363 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Also , higher temperatures than they are used two, flying in and not eating before pounding back much more than they normally drink. I am sure many will agree the first day in paradise is not normal.

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by Canada1 @, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 09:31 (363 days ago) @ Mexalberta

Shouldn't some responsibility be placed on the Servers? They should be refusing additional drinks to customers that have had too much to Drink!

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 10:18 (362 days ago) @ Canada1

Shouldn't some responsibility be placed on the Servers? They should be refusing additional drinks to customers that have had too much to Drink!

No, servers aren't medical professionals and shouldn't be tasked with determining who's too drunk to drink more. Here in Mexico that's a good way for a server to lose their job. Existentialism dictates we are responsible for our own actions. If you want to drink yourself to death then you should be allowed to. Especially on vacation! ¡Salud!

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by Canada1 @, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 13:25 (362 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Shouldn't some responsibility be placed on the Servers? They should be refusing additional drinks to customers that have had too much to Drink!


No, servers aren't medical professionals and shouldn't be tasked with determining who's too drunk to drink more. Here in Mexico that's a good way for a server to lose their job. Existentialism dictates we are responsible for our own actions. If you want to drink yourself to death then you should be allowed to. Especially on vacation! ¡Salud!

I don't think one has to be a medical professional to recognize that someone has had too much to Drink. Wow, I guess other countries care abit more about their customers well being.

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by Sunshine, Canada, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 15:31 (362 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I realize that some guests at AI. Resorts over indulge and simply do not know when to stop. Servers know when a customer has had too much and should cut them off. When we stayed at the Sunscape, there was a middle aged man drinking at the swimup bar, that could barely talk or keep his head up. In the end he vomited on the bar and was pulled out of the pool by staff and placed in a wheel chair beside the pool. Yes he abused himself, but I sure would hope that if that was my friend, son or daughter that a responsible server would have cut them off. The guy must have slept it off in a chair on the beach overnight as he was being fed coffee, still in his bathing shorts when we came down in the morning. Boy his wive was pissed!

Please don't say in these cases you deserve what you get.....

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by Canada1 @, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 22:22 (362 days ago) @ Sunshine

A responsible server would have cut him Off!

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by Mexalberta @, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 15:45 (362 days ago) @ Canada1

Have you ever seen that happen?
Overweight people don't have a buffet limit!

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by Fran @, Evanston, IL, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 18:57 (362 days ago) @ Canada1

Many states in the US have dram shop rules which obligate a server to cut off an obviously intoxicated patron. And make the establishment potentially liable for accidents, injury or death caused by the patron after leaving the establishment should he or she not be cut off.

I suspect since AI patrons, and most vacationers in the area, don't drive, there isn't a need for the rule. But it would seem to be wise for hotels or bars to adopt a policy if guests can't regulate themselves and need minders. Really. Who wants to clean up after a drunk? Or deal with lawyers if someone falls off a balcony or down the stairs.

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by Canada1 @, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 22:20 (362 days ago) @ Fran

Exactly!! :megusta:

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by Fran @, Evanston, IL, Friday, August 25, 2017, 21:12 (361 days ago) @ Canada1

Thanks

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by CountryDancer @, Vancouver, Washington, Sunday, August 27, 2017, 14:36 (359 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Everything I've read is consistent with Rob's statement. Lots of headlines.... no truth in the end.

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~ ~ Country Dancer

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by Johnny Briefcase @, Saturday, August 26, 2017, 11:33 (360 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob - looks like the Mexican Tourism Secretary is on the same page as yourself. Del la Madrid sees the travel ban as a negotiating tactic in the NAFTA meetings. It seems a bit of a stretch; but you can never go too low when it comes to politics. ....JB

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/is-us-travel-warning-linked-to-nafta-talks/

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by Johnny Briefcase @, Monday, August 28, 2017, 18:41 (358 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

First the sensationalized lie about tainted liquor being sold to tourists and now this. Anyone else smell a hit job?


Now the governor of Guerrero chimes in on the travel ban. ....JB

"Astudillo recognized that there was a security problem in Acapulco but said that authorities are working to combat it. He also echoed speculation by the federal tourism secretary, saying he thinks that the strategy to discredit Mexico is a U.S. ploy to gain the upper hand in the current trade negotiations."


http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/post-story-intended-to-discredit-tourism/

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by jkstraw, Montana, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 07:41 (363 days ago) @ Johnny Briefcase

This means no visit by Don John Trump??? :kingtut:

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by Canada1 @, Thursday, August 24, 2017, 09:26 (363 days ago) @ jkstraw

This means no visit by Don John Trump??? :kingtut:

Ya never know, he breaks ever other rule...lol

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by BL @, Saturday, August 26, 2017, 10:34 (360 days ago) @ Johnny Briefcase

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/andres-oppenheimer/article169187707.html

Written by Andres Oppenheimer

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No place is entirely safe, including any major U.S. city or any small town where a psychopath armed with an easily accessible semiautomatic gun can shoot down dozens of people. In almost any place today, you run the risk of being an innocent bystander caught in the wrong place. It’s just that the State Department doesn’t spell out dangers in U.S. cities. They should."

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by jodymaryk @, Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 14:34 (356 days ago) @ BL

Not going to stop us! We came down to Bucerias when the H1N1 was going on and they recommended not going to Mexico. After looking at the CDC website, there were more active cases of it in the county I live in then in the whole state of Jalisco! We had a great, relaxing trip without any crowds. I tell people who are worried we are going to Mexico to watch there local news here in Seattle every morning. Murders, drive-by shootings, gang warfare. I keep up on some of the Zihuatanejo news through Mexican papers online and FB pages and I just am not worried. We don't go out late, are usually home by 9pm from dinner, we don't get drunk and wander the streets and we don't wear (or own, lol!) any expensive jewelry. I don't even wear my wedding ring down or bring 'blingy' jewelry. We have been in Zihua before when the police station has been bombed. We thought it was a transformer blowing until we talked to a local friend the next day. Could we be in the wrong place at the wrong time at some point? Of course, but that is true right here in my home town. We have heard gun shots hear in our neighborhood before, more then once. We will keep coming down, being respectful of the locals, not being ugly Americans, spending our money with small, local businesses and enjoying the beautiful scenery, ambiance and culture that is Zihuatanejo and Mexico. As far as tainted liquor, I agree that is probably has to do more with tourists over drinking cheap liquor that is served at AI's then 'tainted' liquor. We buy our own and buy good quality. I wish I could buy tequila and Cuban rum here is as cheap as there!

Cannot wait to be back there in mid-October!

BTW..one article in June that was talking about businesses shut down and killings, showed a picture of Ixtapa but labeled as Zihuatanejo. Lol! smh.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 16:49 (356 days ago) @ jodymaryk

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by Johnny Briefcase @, Thursday, August 31, 2017, 10:19 (355 days ago) @ jodymaryk

Reports of homicides and violence as well as travel warnings are not stopping the tourists to Mexico. In fact the numbers are increasing according to some press reports. ....JB

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/despite-homicides-tourists-keep-coming/

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by Mexalberta @, Thursday, August 31, 2017, 11:28 (355 days ago) @ Johnny Briefcase

Hard to believe our numbers from Canada are down. Travelled to three different locations in Mexico since June and the flights from Calgary have been full. But as most stats from Canada the data may be from the East.