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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, September 11, 2017, 13:09 (14 days ago)

Apart from Saturday's flooding downtown after a moderate rainstorm, many of us spent a lot of time watching Hurricane Irma putter out over Florida after causing major devastation to Barbuda, St. Martin, St. John, Tortola, St. Thomas and especially to Cuba. Most of the devastation on the Caribbean islands and especially in Cuba has been totally ignored by your stateside media. Amazingly the worst earthquake to hit Mexico in recorded history got a brief mention here and there until all the news stations had their "reporters" broadcasting "live from the hurricane" in Florida, then we never saw another word about any other news anywhere else in the world. Even our local news managed to keep up with the Pope's visit to Colombia where peace has broken out (two news stories I haven't seen in the U.S. media), and the major flooding in India.

I forgot to mention that we have a new rock'n'roll joint in town, "La Casa de Rock". Some of the best music in Zihuatanejo! And it's got A/C! Several local artists got together to open the place up, and it's one of the few local bars I can wholeheartedly recommend. It's located right next door to the Posada Citlali on Vicente Guerrero Street in downtown Zihuatanejo They rock early on and not too late, and the noise level is totally acceptable. These folks are setting a fine example, so we hope to see them enjoy some success. Xpresión Inmune is one of the bands that plays there. I've heard nothing but good music there. Come check them out and enjoy the ambiance!

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by Canada1 @, Monday, September 11, 2017, 13:31 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We saw alot of coverage here in Canada on the quake, the u.s. stations rightly so we're covering the major storm that engulfed all of Florida example 5.8 million users without power.

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by midalake @, Monday, September 11, 2017, 13:57 (14 days ago) @ Canada1

We saw alot of coverage here in Canada on the quake, the u.s. stations rightly so we're covering the major storm that engulfed all of Florida example 5.8 million users without power.


The coverage of US territories and Puerto Rico's devastation is what matters to ME and many other citizens of the USA.........NOW Florida as well.

Sorry if Cuba is having an issue.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, September 11, 2017, 14:32 (14 days ago) @ midalake

We saw alot of coverage here in Canada on the quake, the u.s. stations rightly so we're covering the major storm that engulfed all of Florida example 5.8 million users without power.

The coverage of US territories and Puerto Rico's devastation is what matters to ME and many other citizens of the USA.........NOW Florida as well.

Sorry if Cuba is having an issue.

D

My Caribbean islander friends are as disappointed as I am over the lack of news coverage by the MSM. We care about Florida of course since most of us have lived or currently live there, but ignoring our Caribbean brothers and sisters is insulting to us, no matter if it's Cuba, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Puerto Rico or Nevis. We find the myopic "America first" attitude shameful and lacking the kind of humanity and compassion we believe in. Sorry to hear you could care less about an island or a population because of its government. That is discrimination and it is unacceptable to us.

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by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Monday, September 11, 2017, 14:38 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

If one looks hard enough, there is always a reason to bitch.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, September 11, 2017, 14:39 (14 days ago) @ Labrat

If one looks hard enough, there is always a reason to bitch.

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I'm surprised anything even has to be said. Compassion shouldn't be a political issue.

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by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Monday, September 11, 2017, 16:05 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Well, you certainly politicized it in your post.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, September 11, 2017, 17:41 (14 days ago) @ Labrat

Well, you certainly politicized it in your post.

JMO

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No, I didn't. I criticized an unfortunate trend the world is seeing in the U.S. culture. We can watch the news in Spanish or from almost any other country and get a better more balanced weltanschauung, but the U.S. news tends to ignore much of the world except when it comes to rattling sabers. We would simply like the U.S. media to give attention to the people in need in these devastated neighboring communities where so many of them vacation so that they might help to more quickly mobilize resources these people urgently need. But hey, even if you can only wrap your collective heads around St. Thomas, St. John and Puerto Rico, like Dave said, that's a start, though I think my U.S. compatriots are capable of much more.

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by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Monday, September 11, 2017, 18:34 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Regardless of the rant, if you use Google you will see pages and pages of U.S. news outlet stories on the earthquake.

As for the places like Barbuda, there wasn't anything or anyone left to report on it. The island lost all communications.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, September 11, 2017, 19:34 (14 days ago) @ Labrat

Regardless of the rant, if you use Google you will see pages and pages of U.S. news outlet stories on the earthquake.

As for the places like Barbuda, there wasn't anything or anyone left to report on it. The island lost all communications.

Keith

You apparently continue to miss the point. In case you hadn't noticed my friends and I were not concerned with what could be found via a Google search. We were more concerned with what wasn't found on CNN USA. CNN International and CNN in Español both offer more comprehensive reporting. That's all.

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by Canada1 @, Monday, September 11, 2017, 21:06 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Regardless of the rant, if you use Google you will see pages and pages of U.S. news outlet stories on the earthquake.

As for the places like Barbuda, there wasn't anything or anyone left to report on it. The island lost all communications.

Keith


You apparently continue to miss the point. In case you hadn't noticed my friends and I were not concerned with what could be found via a Google search. We were more concerned with what wasn't found on CNN USA. CNN International and CNN in Español both offer more comprehensive reporting. That's all.

Bingo again, cnn USA is just that..usa, cnn international covers the rest of world news.

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by Charlybby, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 02:34 (14 days ago) @ Canada1

CNN is such bs like fox

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by Canada1 @, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 07:34 (14 days ago) @ Charlybby

CNN is such bs like fox

Lol...lol...lmao...millions world-wide don't seem to share your Opinion!

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by Canada1 @, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 09:05 (14 days ago) @ Charlybby

CNN is such bs like fox

And each to their own.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 08:40 (14 days ago) @ Canada1

Bingo again, cnn USA is just that..usa, cnn international covers the rest of world news.

You just now understand that my message wasn't directed at you or Canadians. Congratulations! Give yourself a pat on the back.

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by Canada1 @, Monday, September 11, 2017, 18:51 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We have no way of knowing but was there an abundance of irma in Florida on mexican news stations?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, September 11, 2017, 19:59 (14 days ago) @ Canada1

We have no way of knowing but was there an abundance of irma in Florida on mexican news stations?

Of course there was.

What there wasn't was any word of compassion from the PussyGrabber-In-Chief who neither offered condolences nor assistance to Mexico after two hurricanes and a historical major earthquake.

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by Mexalberta @, Monday, September 11, 2017, 20:28 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob, love your comment. In Bucerias we saw T shirts that said
F Trump, if you like Trump F you too
We Had A Great Vacation in Bucerias On the Sunny Side of The wall

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by Canada1 @, Monday, September 11, 2017, 21:04 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We have no way of knowing but was there an abundance of irma in Florida on mexican news stations?


Of course there was.

What there wasn't was any word of compassion from the PussyGrabber-In-Chief who neither offered condolences nor assistance to Mexico after two hurricanes and a historical major earthquake.

Just asking, no need to get all wound Up!

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 08:44 (14 days ago) @ Canada1

We have no way of knowing but was there an abundance of irma in Florida on mexican news stations?


Of course there was.

What there wasn't was any word of compassion from the PussyGrabber-In-Chief who neither offered condolences nor assistance to Mexico after two hurricanes and a historical major earthquake.


Just asking, no need to get all wound Up!

My very first sentence in this thread told you that we had just been watching the coverage of Florida.

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by Ottawa Joe, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 08:59 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

The major news networks were able to get reporters into Florida Ahead of the storm and provide for their Safety which they could not do on the Carribean islands or even the Keys of Florida. No one predicted the earthquake (ok probably some siesmologist did but not accurately) and with such a strength how accessible is the area and can the media provide for their staff? It is the nature of the media business to cover that which is most relative to their viewers. Perhaps someone from Europe or Asia could wade in on this with a non N. American perspective.
I will be in India in January so have been paying more attention on line to the situation there. How about what is going on in Cambodia anyone paying attention to what is happening there?

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by Canada1 @, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 09:07 (14 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

Well said sir.

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by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 09:10 (14 days ago) @ Canada1

As I said to begin with.

You can always find a reason to bitch.

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by Canada1 @, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 09:12 (14 days ago) @ Labrat

As I said to begin with.

You can always find a reason to bitch.

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Exactly :brilliant:

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 10:36 (13 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

The major news networks were able to get reporters into Florida Ahead of the storm and provide for their Safety which they could not do on the Carribean islands or even the Keys of Florida. No one predicted the earthquake (ok probably some siesmologist did but not accurately) and with such a strength how accessible is the area and can the media provide for their staff? It is the nature of the media business to cover that which is most relative to their viewers. Perhaps someone from Europe or Asia could wade in on this with a non N. American perspective.
I will be in India in January so have been paying more attention on line to the situation there. How about what is going on in Cambodia anyone paying attention to what is happening there?

Actually CNN and the MSM had plenty of warning before the hurricane hit the Leeward islands to strategically locate their people to cover the event, but as you pointed out, and the central complaint my friends and I had, they intentionally ignored them even though U.S. citizens and territories were involved, just like happened with Hugo. Yet Mexican media not only covered all the events in Baja, the Caribbean, Nigeria and India but Florida and Texas and others. Apparently we remain better informed about world events outside the U.S.A. than folks in the States, and that's a damn shame. Mexican media and even CNN en Español were in the earthquake disaster area almost immediately while from what I saw on CNN USA it only got mentioned in passing while the "continuing coverage of Hurricane Irma in Florida" was practically the only thing on. That's why we petitioned CNN USA to be more inclusive in their Caribbean coverage and it looks like they finally got the message.

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by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 10:46 (13 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

U.S. Media covering a U.S. situation.

I'm aghast.

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by Canada1 @, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 11:05 (13 days ago) @ Labrat

I agree, how on earth do they feel circumstances at home are of any importance compared to the rest of the worlds Issues! Amazing!:dude:

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by Charlybby, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 02:31 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

:megusta:

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by Canada1 @, Monday, September 11, 2017, 14:58 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We saw alot of coverage here in Canada on the quake, the u.s. stations rightly so we're covering the major storm that engulfed all of Florida example 5.8 million users without power.

The coverage of US territories and Puerto Rico's devastation is what matters to ME and many other citizens of the USA.........NOW Florida as well.

Sorry if Cuba is having an issue.

D


My Caribbean islander friends are as disappointed as I am over the lack of news coverage by the MSM. We care about Florida of course since most of us have lived or currently live there, but ignoring our Caribbean brothers and sisters is insulting to us, no matter if it's Cuba, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Puerto Rico or Nevis. We find the myopic "America first" attitude shameful and lacking the kind of humanity and compassion we believe in. Sorry to hear you could care less about an island or a population because of its government. That is discrimination and it is unacceptable to us.

Can't seem to see where the government was Mentioned?

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by Charlybby, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 02:30 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thank you Rob! So many places & people/friends are affected! Not just USA.. Has anyone noticed how many people have died in Nigeria hurricane flooding?!?! Or homes lost?! Still very sad wherever it is:-( :-(

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa/Silver Strand Beach, California, Monday, September 11, 2017, 14:39 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Great news about a new music venue/bar.
Great pictures.
Still can't get ANY news about our old home, South Caicos. We suspect it was literally scoured clean.

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by Mexalberta @, Monday, September 11, 2017, 17:45 (14 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Our son in laws parents are on the 8th floor of a bldg without a elevator. In Mexico City . They were terrified.
The coverage here in Canada was very precise and complete.
Cuba coverage has been good as well. There were more thousands of Canadians there, but the coverage was equally expressing concern about the Cubans as well.

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by Ottawa Joe, Monday, September 11, 2017, 18:43 (14 days ago) @ Mexalberta

I did not see much coverage on national news stations about Cuba during or after Irma roared through just pictures on the internet if I want to see them. Downtown Havana is more then knee deep in water. There was more coverage about the smaller islands on the news showing the devastation. The earthquake I learned about here but it too was overshadowed by Irma.

CBC and CTV must have a combined total of 10 reporters covering Florida from different locals so with that kind of money spent its no surprise what is getting most coverage. Also because they could get people in relatively easy prior to the storm hitting not so easy to get reporters into Chiapas after the fact.

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by Mexalberta @, Monday, September 11, 2017, 19:13 (14 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

Once again the difference between here and there!

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by Lilyana, Monday, September 11, 2017, 21:50 (14 days ago) @ Mexalberta

MexAlberta,

I'll back you up on that. Very good coverage on the Mexico earthquake here in BC.

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by Charlybby, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 02:43 (14 days ago) @ Lilyana

MexAlberta,

I'll back you up on that. Very good coverage on the Mexico earthquake here in BC.

Yes! Most news is about USA

but nada Caribbean, Mexico,

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by James, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 09:08 (14 days ago) @ Charlybby

Rachel Maddow did about 11 minutes on St John -- finally.

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by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 09:13 (14 days ago) @ James

As I said yesterday. Many of the islands lost all communications.

With the If It Bleeds It Leads attitude of the click bait media, you can rest assured more will be forthcoming as communications are restored.

By the time they are done with "coverage", or until some other click bait issue arises, I am quite sure Y'all will be tired of seeing the very same collapsed housing pictures over and over and over again.

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by Gringo Viejo @, Kansas, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 10:24 (13 days ago) @ James

Lengthy coverage of Irma and the Islands this a.m. on CNN. Seems there was a problem getting reports in many areas. Looting and lawlessness now the major problem following the major devastation. Military is being deployed and evacuation by air and sea in progress. It is a mess there no doubt.

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by rojo, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 13:50 (13 days ago) @ Gringo Viejo

The best coverage I have seen on TV is on the BBC NEWS. It covered the Florida, Cuba, and most of the Islands. Also they report on the earthquake and storm in Mexico. The US News seems too much repetitive on the same issue,over and over again usually with someone standing out in the high wind and telling the people to not leave their shelter

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by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 17:58 (13 days ago) @ rojo

Got home from work in time to catch the CNN reports on the French Antilles.

Really tore up. Bands of roving gangsters with machetes robbing others of their food and water.

"Speaking in Guadeloupe, Macron promised to rebuild the French territories flattened by Irma, namely St. Martin and St. Barts."

European leaders arrive in Irma-struck Caribbean as aid effort ramps up

"'There's no supplies'
Evacuees arriving in the United States from St. Martin spoke of their horror as the hurricane passed overhead and the difficult cleanup that has followed.
"The problem now is there's no supplies," one woman told CNN at San Juan airport in Puerto Rico, where evacuees were being taken.
"(We're missing) gas for vehicles, diesel gas for generators, diesel gas for all the trucks and front loaders needed to clear the rubble."

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 18:24 (13 days ago) @ Labrat

Many of my friends who lived on St. Croix during Hurricane Hugo were hoping that with additional early on coverage by CNN USA calling attention to such problems the worst of the terrible aftermath that they lived through could be avoided. Thus my earlier comments on this subject. This is history repeating itself, and lots of us saw it coming, well, apparently except for the "colonial authorities."

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by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 18:41 (13 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

By all report they didn't wait on anything.

Private flotilla formed by the locals on St Croix are bringing supplies into and people out of St John and St Thomas.

St Croix had minimal damage, while John and Thomas got whacked.

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by Ottawa Joe, Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 20:54 (13 days ago) @ Labrat

As I cannot do anything directly for these people the best I can do is donate $ to Red Cross and ask it be directed to Carribean or Chiapas earthquake relief. I encourage others to do the same.

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by Mexalberta @, Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 09:55 (12 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

Look in your City for local cultural organizations from the affected countries. It will be a more direct path for donations etc.
Heading to the Bangladesh Association of Calgary to donate to flood victims there. They do get a lot of aid from Canada.

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by allen @, Pacific Northwest, Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 03:56 (13 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

And then again there is Bangladesh where over 1200 people have died and no mention of it here and not much on mainstream media either. I guess we all have our prejudices.

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by Labrat ⌂ @, The Roosterfish Foundation, Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 09:05 (13 days ago) @ allen

Maybe we should have a World Death Watch then.

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