Unfortunate experience

by zihuatpair, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 18:15 (358 days ago)
edited by zihuatpair, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 18:22

We've been coming to Zihuatanejo/Ixtapa for 20 years and have never had a problem, but unfortunately today we were robbed at knifepoint at 3 pm in Zihuatanejo. We were walking along the canal pathway just east of the roundabout that funnels traffic to La Ropa when a young man suddenly appeared in my face wanting money - when I hesitated, he grabbed me by the shirt collar and held a large knife at me. I pulled my wallet out, he grabbed it and ran back toward the roundabout. My wife was screaming for help at that point as we began to chase him. The great part about this story is that a number of employes at the pizza delivery shop across the canal heard my wife's screams, saw what was happening, and took off chasing the culprit as well. Apparently they caught up with him as he climbed on board a minibus taxi and proceeded to throw my wallet out on the ground. They found me afterwards and brought the wallet back to me, missing only a few hundred pesos that apparently were lost when the wallet hit the ground and money spilled out. Can't say how much we appreciated help from the local residents/workers in retrieving my wallet from the bad guy! In retrospect, I would suggest staying away from that portion of the pathway along the canal, even in mid-day.

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by h4Dan, California, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 18:36 (358 days ago) @ zihuatpair

That is unfortunate, we often walk to Centro via Kioto Plaza, often in the early afternoon.

Glad to hear no harm done other than a few hundred pesos lost.

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by DaveT, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 18:46 (358 days ago) @ zihuatpair
edited by DaveT, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 18:57

I suspect a Troll! New member today! 1 Post And the story doesn't make sense!

A young man accosts you with a knife to rob you. You are probably 50 to 60 years of age. You surrender your wallet. He then runs away and then you the victim chase him.
And of course if you caught him what would you do? Attempt to take the knife away from?

Not likely.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 19:28 (358 days ago) @ DaveT

I suspect a Troll! New member today! 1 Post And the story doesn't make sense!

A young man accosts you with a knife to rob you. You are probably 50 to 60 years of age. You surrender your wallet. He then runs away and then you the victim chase him.
And of course if you caught him what would you do? Attempt to take the knife away from?

Not likely.

The story makes perfect sense! I have no reason not to believe them, Dave. The witnesses at the nearby pizza place chased the thief. I chase thieves, too. I've caught two or three. One had an ice pick, so I brought my machete. One had a huge knife, so a neighbor offered up a big 2-by-4 and we whacked him over the head after we'd trapped him along with some taxi drivers who kept radioing ahead to their pals as the thief ran through the market, him slashing away at empty air with his big knife until he began seeing stars.

In a lawless land I AM THE LAW!
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by DaveT, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 20:06 (358 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I suspect a Troll! New member today! 1 Post And the story doesn't make sense!

A young man accosts you with a knife to rob you. You are probably 50 to 60 years of age. You surrender your wallet. He then runs away and then you the victim chase him.
And of course if you caught him what would you do? Attempt to take the knife away from?

Not likely.


The story makes perfect sense! I have no reason not to believe them, Dave. The witnesses at the nearby pizza place chased the thief. I chase thieves, too. I've caught two or three. One had an ice pick, so I brought my machete. One had a huge knife, so a neighbor offered up a big 2-by-4 and we whacked him over the head after we'd trapped him along with some taxi drivers who kept radioing ahead to their pals as the thief ran through the market, him slashing away at empty air with his big knife until he began seeing stars.

In a lawless land I AM THE LAW!
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How convenient that this post appears while you are once again in your bully pulpit espousing your disgust for the local police efforts or lack thereof in other recent posts in your forum. Poster joins forum today, posts a phony,corny story and you suck it up!

Were you there, NO! Have you spoken to any witnesses, No! Have you verified the veracity of any part of the story, No! All you have is a goofy story that doesn't make sense. So what you have is hearsay! Inadmissible in most courts of law.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 20:45 (358 days ago) @ DaveT

How convenient that this post appears while you are once again in your bully pulpit espousing your disgust for the local police efforts or lack thereof in other recent posts in your forum. Poster joins forum today, posts a phony,corny story and you suck it up!

Were you there, NO! Have you spoken to any witnesses, No! Have you verified the veracity of any part of the story, No! All you have is a goofy story that doesn't make sense. So what you have is hearsay! Inadmissible in most courts of law.

Not sure what's gotten into you, but I've been doing this for a while, and I know how to verify identities and stories without divulging my methods to the general public. Loose lips sink ships.

Goofy story that doesn't make sense? Not at all. Holdups are actually quite common and this is exactly how they happen. In many communities here in Mexico not only do folks chase down criminals but if they catch them they beat, hogtie and sometimes set them on fire.

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by DaveT, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 22:38 (358 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I'll watch will great anticipation to see how this plays out in the local news. I am sure the local "Despertar De La Coasta" will publish something in their Policia section. That will make this a more convincing story!

Let's see, robbed at knife point, then chases perp, then locals chase perp, then perp is accosted on a combi/minibus and the wallet is thrown from bus! Good samaritans search you out and return the wallet. Why would you have to be "searched out" if you were involved in pursuing the perp. After being accosted, the perp apparently then dusts himself off and flees the scene unimpeded by those accosted him in the first place.

And then Rob we have the "mysterious unidentified sources" known unto only you that will never be identified to the public. Smacks of a "Deep Throat" persona in a 2 bit novella.

This story is a hoax....a con to illicit unjustified concerns of personal safety to satisfy your own agenda. Nice try............

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DaveT Way Out Of Line

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, December 24, 2017, 08:48 (357 days ago) @ DaveT

You are way out of line, DaveT, and until I receive a sincere apology from you then you won't be posting here anymore. Ho ho ho!

DaveT Way Out Of Line

by Armando, Sunday, December 24, 2017, 09:16 (357 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I totally agree! Major lack of respect. Armando

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by Mexalberta @, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 23:09 (358 days ago) @ DaveT

Dave. Record your scream for us. Then we can decide to help out not when you get your turn.

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by DaveT, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 23:14 (358 days ago) @ Mexalberta

LOL Mex............I am enjoying this too, but still a crummy fiction story. It just didn't happen. And denial is a river in Egypt too.

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by Zbulldog, Monday, December 25, 2017, 11:49 (356 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

What happens if the thief has a gun. I've been told it's a bad idea to bring a knife (or rusty machete) to a gun fight.

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by OlsenMN, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 19:29 (358 days ago) @ DaveT

I suspect a Troll! New member today! 1 Post And the story doesn't make sense!

A young man accosts you with a knife to rob you. You are probably 50 to 60 years of age. You surrender your wallet. He then runs away and then you the victim chase him.
And of course if you caught him what would you do? Attempt to take the knife away from?

Not likely.

You need to follow the news more. This is not an isolated incident.

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by katherine @, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 20:33 (358 days ago) @ OlsenMN

I have heard reports of robberies along this section of the parque lineal, but always at night, and always involving local people, not tourists nor snowbirds. I have no trouble believing this account.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 18:48 (358 days ago) @ zihuatpair

Sorry to hear of your scary experience, and good to hear that there were folks chasing that scumbag.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 19:17 (358 days ago) @ zihuatpair

We've been coming to Zihuatanejo/Ixtapa for 20 years and have never had a problem, but unfortunately today we were robbed at knifepoint at 3 pm in Zihuatanejo. We were walking along the canal pathway just east of the roundabout that funnels traffic to La Ropa when a young man suddenly appeared in my face wanting money - when I hesitated, he grabbed me by the shirt collar and held a large knife at me. I pulled my wallet out, he grabbed it and ran back toward the roundabout. My wife was screaming for help at that point as we began to chase him. The great part about this story is that a number of employes at the pizza delivery shop across the canal heard my wife's screams, saw what was happening, and took off chasing the culprit as well. Apparently they caught up with him as he climbed on board a minibus taxi and proceeded to throw my wallet out on the ground. They found me afterwards and brought the wallet back to me, missing only a few hundred pesos that apparently were lost when the wallet hit the ground and money spilled out. Can't say how much we appreciated help from the local residents/workers in retrieving my wallet from the bad guy! In retrospect, I would suggest staying away from that portion of the pathway along the canal, even in mid-day.

I am truly sorry that this happened. Unfortunately our local mayor hasn't seen fit to provide our town with a functioning police department, so it's literally every person for themselves. Now if you had been at the bank today withdrawing your Christmas bonus (according to the local press) you would allegedly have been under the protection of the local police.

Unfortunately our mayor has never given any importance to providing public security. Says it isn't his job. After allegedly being responsible for having most of our police force arrested and jailed for illegal possession of weapons, he rehired thirty or so who were released and now expects them to be motivated to do a good job. I don't, and I haven't seen them act like it either.

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by DaveT, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 23:33 (358 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We've been coming to Zihuatanejo/Ixtapa for 20 years and have never had a problem, but unfortunately today we were robbed at knifepoint at 3 pm in Zihuatanejo. We were walking along the canal pathway just east of the roundabout that funnels traffic to La Ropa when a young man suddenly appeared in my face wanting money - when I hesitated, he grabbed me by the shirt collar and held a large knife at me. I pulled my wallet out, he grabbed it and ran back toward the roundabout. My wife was screaming for help at that point as we began to chase him. The great part about this story is that a number of employes at the pizza delivery shop across the canal heard my wife's screams, saw what was happening, and took off chasing the culprit as well. Apparently they caught up with him as he climbed on board a minibus taxi and proceeded to throw my wallet out on the ground. They found me afterwards and brought the wallet back to me, missing only a few hundred pesos that apparently were lost when the wallet hit the ground and money spilled out. Can't say how much we appreciated help from the local residents/workers in retrieving my wallet from the bad guy! In retrospect, I would suggest staying away from that portion of the pathway along the canal, even in mid-day.


I am truly sorry that this happened. Unfortunately our local mayor hasn't seen fit to provide our town with a functioning police department, so it's literally every person for themselves. Now if you had been at the bank today withdrawing your Christmas bonus (according to the local press) you would allegedly have been under the protection of the local police.

Unfortunately our mayor has never given any importance to providing public security. Says it isn't his job. After allegedly being responsible for having most of our police force arrested and jailed for illegal possession of weapons, he rehired thirty or so who were released and now expects them to be motivated to do a good job. I don't, and I haven't seen them act like it either.

And here ladies and gentlemen is the proof, given to us by Professor Whitehead himself. Right back up on his soap box blasting the Mayor and the the police. Isn't it convenient that this horrible just happened to day? This entire story is contrived by "Himself" just so he can keep up the complaining.

Look at the syntax/style of the OP and Robs' writing in this particular post. It's the same. How do you not see it?

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by D-Loco, Sunday, December 24, 2017, 14:47 (357 days ago) @ DaveT

Geeezus man!

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by Curbarn, summer b.c. winter zihua, Sunday, December 24, 2017, 19:03 (357 days ago) @ DaveT

Wow, you should bugger off. They are staying at casa que ve al mar.

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by zihuatpair, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 20:46 (358 days ago) @ zihuatpair

DaveT, sorry you think our experience is bogus. We've been following this message board for years, even posted once or twice back in the day when there was no requirement to register. However, we decided it was important enough to share our experience with others, so registered to post. Also, we especially wanted to express our gratitude to the local citizens who helped us out. And yes, we're both in our latter 60s!

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by Armando, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 21:41 (358 days ago) @ zihuatpair

Thanks for sharing your experience and sorry for some idiot who thinks your a liar. I hope this doesn’t happen to you Dave. Then you could share how you took on the thief? Armando

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by D-Loco, Sunday, December 24, 2017, 14:49 (357 days ago) @ zihuatpair

Thanx for sharing your experience. That's what community is all about.

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So Sorry

by Talley Ho @, Saturday, December 23, 2017, 22:22 (358 days ago) @ zihuatpair

We are so sorry that this happened to you in our community.

Please recognize that there were good people around that helped you, and don't consider all of us to be heathens.

What kind of reaction would you have received where you currently live? Hopefully one at least as helpful as here.

It was an ugly situation and we are glad that you came out OK.

Again, so sorry that this happened to you.

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by karenanddick, Sunday, December 24, 2017, 06:34 (357 days ago) @ zihuatpair

I have no reason not to believe this story. Lots of stuff is happening every day down there. I walk that area almost every day and I do have a bit of fear doing so. That's why I don't carry a bunch of money and if I am approached they can have all of it. There is a guy that is a druggie and he has been in Zihua for years. He hangs around that area. Last year, I was walking across the canal and he came from behind and grabbed my arm. I thought my heart was going to jump out of my body. I pulled away from him and screamed and he took off. Don't think it would have been him, but that's just an example of what can happen. Need eyes behind out backs. I will be very aware now in all of Zihua.

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Unfortunate experience - followup

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, December 26, 2017, 13:02 (355 days ago) @ zihuatpair

We've been coming to Zihuatanejo/Ixtapa for 20 years and have never had a problem, but unfortunately today we were robbed at knifepoint at 3 pm in Zihuatanejo. We were walking along the canal pathway just east of the roundabout that funnels traffic to La Ropa when a young man suddenly appeared in my face wanting money - when I hesitated, he grabbed me by the shirt collar and held a large knife at me. I pulled my wallet out, he grabbed it and ran back toward the roundabout. My wife was screaming for help at that point as we began to chase him. The great part about this story is that a number of employes at the pizza delivery shop across the canal heard my wife's screams, saw what was happening, and took off chasing the culprit as well. Apparently they caught up with him as he climbed on board a minibus taxi and proceeded to throw my wallet out on the ground. They found me afterwards and brought the wallet back to me, missing only a few hundred pesos that apparently were lost when the wallet hit the ground and money spilled out. Can't say how much we appreciated help from the local residents/workers in retrieving my wallet from the bad guy! In retrospect, I would suggest staying away from that portion of the pathway along the canal, even in mid-day.

Just a followup. A witness who lives nearby described seeing this incident from their apartment as well as an earlier incident committed by the same person. They tried to call the police but got nothing but frustration from the endeavor as have so many others of us. I blame incidents like this directly on the mayor and director of public security in our municipal government for flagrantly ignoring their duties while cashing their inflated paychecks. More of our budget needs to go for public security and less for bloated salaries, questionable public works and wasteful political campaigns.

https://www.facebook.com/despertar.delacosta.3/posts/1255651904535662

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by Pelicano, Tuesday, December 26, 2017, 13:25 (355 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I suppose the mayor either doesn't read this board, or perhaps more likely, just doesn't care...


:spank:

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by Zihbooster, Thursday, December 28, 2017, 11:47 (353 days ago) @ Pelicano

This "Dave T"sounds more scary than any one I have met in 20 years of annual visits to Zih.. I suggest he wear a sign that says " I am Dave T." so normal people (like I consider myself) can avoid dealing with his apparent self-induced rage.