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by HolyMole @, Tuesday, May 29, 2018, 22:59 (23 days ago)

I was surfing through the Archives, noting some of the regular contributors back nine or ten years ago that we no longer hear from: KR, Phil in Toronto, judi in OKlahoma, Scott, Cri Cri, Lee@98223, Narc, Craig Scheiner....some have died, others live or holiday elsewhere, or have just "moved on". Quien sabe?

One interesting thread back in March/09 dealt with Sir Francis Drake, and Admiral George Anson, complete with an old photo (from the 70's?) of what local legend claimed was an anchor from one of Anson's ships. It was huge, displayed in front of a Las Gatas restaurant.

There was an interesting follow-up post:

"Please don't quote me on this, but I believe that this anchor is what now lies at the base of the artificial reef (beach side, not ocean side) at las gatas. It's pretty easy to spot down there when you're snorkeling around." 


Can any of you snorkelers comment? Have you seen the anchor?

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by Talley Ho @, Tuesday, May 29, 2018, 23:19 (23 days ago) @ HolyMole

Definitely. It's between the dock where passengers are off loaded and the beginning of the reef on the inland side. Very visible to snorkelers and paddlers.

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by HolyMole @, Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 00:36 (23 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Interesting. Anyone know if it was ever authenticated? If it is genuine, what could the thinking have been in removing it from the general public's view and consigning it to the deep? Would it be better preserved in sea water or salt air? Or did anyone care?

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by KO ⌂ @, Port Orchard, WA, Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 00:39 (23 days ago) @ HolyMole

I think I need a guide as I would be most interested in seeing this

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KO

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 08:21 (22 days ago) @ HolyMole

Interesting. Anyone know if it was ever authenticated? If it is genuine, what could the thinking have been in removing it from the general public's view and consigning it to the deep? Would it be better preserved in sea water or salt air? Or did anyone care?

It is a genuine extremely old anchor from the time period of the naval battle described, so there just aren't many alternative explanations for whose anchor it is or where it came from. It was replaced in the water because it was deteriorating quickly in the corrosive air. If you or someone you know has the resources to remove, restore and preserve it then adelante. Because locals don't, and it simply would've turned to dust if it had remained on the beach at Oliverio's place. Unlike the sunken Jesus statue, at least it is a more authentic artifact worth going in the water at Las Gatas to see.

Life is ALWAYS more interesting than movies!

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by HolyMole @, Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 10:43 (22 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Easy, big fella. I don't doubt the anchor's authenticity, and my question concerning how best to preserve it was technical, not meant to be critical.
I appreciate that locals might not have the resources for preservation or display, which is where municipal, state or federal governments might step up to preserve (and advertise) an object of historical importance.
If it weren't for your Board, how many foreign tourists would know of the anchor's existence?
Thanks for the 2014 posts on the subject, and that same photo from the 2008 post that piqued my interest.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 10:48 (22 days ago) @ HolyMole

Easy, big fella. I don't doubt the anchor's authenticity, and my question concerning how best to preserve it was technical, not meant to be critical.
I appreciate that locals might not have the resources for preservation or display, which is where municipal, state or federal governments might step up to preserve (and advertise) an object of historical importance.
If it weren't for your Board, how many foreign tourists would know of the anchor's existence?
Thanks for the 2014 posts on the subject, and that same photo from the 2008 post that piqued my interest.

?? Was my reply aggressive or something? If so it was unintended.

As to its authentication, no me consta, but I believe no one has asked INAH (Instituto Nacional de Antropología e Historia) to do so because the first thing they'll want to do is confiscate it like they did all the artifacts at La Chole.

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by Charlybby, Saturday, June 02, 2018, 20:49 (19 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Love it Rob!!!:-)

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by EsBrian, Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 11:55 (22 days ago) @ HolyMole

Very cool ,thanks for the heads up on the anchor!
Something for me to find the next time I'm at Las Gatas.

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by Scott, Playa del Carmen, Quintana Roo, Mexico, Tuesday, June 05, 2018, 10:31 (16 days ago) @ HolyMole

I was surfing through the Archives, noting some of the regular contributors back nine or ten years ago that we no longer hear from: KR, Phil in Toronto, judi in OKlahoma, Scott, Cri Cri, Lee@98223, Narc, Craig Scheiner....some have died, others live or holiday elsewhere, or have just "moved on". Quien sabe?

I'm still around. I've been reading the board regularly since 2003 and still enjoy it, but I do not post much anymore. I live in Playa del Carmen now, and I have not been back to Zihua since 2009. I hope to make it back one day, not sure when that will be though. I miss that part of the country a lot, but there are also a lot of problems there that do not affect me at all here in Playa.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, June 05, 2018, 11:08 (16 days ago) @ Scott

I was surfing through the Archives, noting some of the regular contributors back nine or ten years ago that we no longer hear from: KR, Phil in Toronto, judi in OKlahoma, Scott, Cri Cri, Lee@98223, Narc, Craig Scheiner....some have died, others live or holiday elsewhere, or have just "moved on". Quien sabe?

I'm still around. I've been reading the board regularly since 2003 and still enjoy it, but I do not post much anymore. I live in Playa del Carmen now, and I have not been back to Zihua since 2009. I hope to make it back one day, not sure when that will be though. I miss that part of the country a lot, but there are also a lot of problems there that do not affect me at all here in Playa.

Yeah, rub it in! It's good to hear from you, amigo. Glad life is treating you well on the Caribbean side!

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by HolyMole @, Thursday, June 07, 2018, 12:36 (14 days ago) @ Scott

I was surfing through the Archives, noting some of the regular contributors back nine or ten years ago that we no longer hear from: KR, Phil in Toronto, judi in OKlahoma, Scott, Cri Cri, Lee@98223, Narc, Craig Scheiner....some have died, others live or holiday elsewhere, or have just "moved on". Quien sabe?

I'm still around. I've been reading the board regularly since 2003 and still enjoy it, but I do not post much anymore. I live in Playa del Carmen now, and I have not been back to Zihua since 2009. I hope to make it back one day, not sure when that will be though. I miss that part of the country a lot, but there are also a lot of problems there that do not affect me at all here in Playa.

Glad to see you're still vertical, (or as my Dad used to say: Still able to sit up and take nourishment). Your posts were always well-written, thoughtful and informative.
A few years ago I came across posts from KR on TOMZAP's Puerto Escondido (Oaxaca) forum. KR apparently lives in the PE area and is a regular contributor to that forum. Still the same quirky style? You bet, but always knowledgeable and entertaining. It appears that PE isn't immune to many of the same problems plaguing Zihua.