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by Talley Ho @, Sunday, July 01, 2018, 11:50 (163 days ago)

It's an incredibly quiet day, and it even looks as if there will be no trash pickup today on Playa la Ropa! Is that because of election day?

About 7:30am we saw a blue tarp being put up on the road down to Patty's and Villa Mexicana. There were people milling around. Since then we have seen a number of people walking in that direction, and what appears to be a couple of people who are possibly reminding people or walking them down to vote.

Are we imagining things, or is that what is going on? How does it work here? I know to vote citizens have to have their credential, but do they have to go to a specific place or what? Please Rob,fill us in!

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by HolyMole @, Sunday, July 01, 2018, 12:45 (163 days ago) @ Talley Ho

The Yucatan Times has an example of a Presidential ballot on Facebook today, and it shows that one could vote for Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador under one of three different party names, the same for Jose Antonio Meade and for Ricardo Anaya Cortes. Very confusing.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, July 01, 2018, 13:05 (163 days ago) @ HolyMole

The Yucatan Times has an example of a Presidential ballot on Facebook today, and it shows that one could vote for Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador under one of three different party names, the same for Jose Antonio Meade and for Ricardo Anaya Cortes. Very confusing.

It’s how the parties get away with justifying their existence so they receive billions of pesos and are allowed to have plurinominales in the Cámara de Diputados and the Senado. Plurinominales are “apportioned representatives” named by the parties who don’t have to win by election. Yes, it’s a scam and very antidemocratic but it’s how the parties maintain their hold on power and protect their interests.

You can’t simply vote for a candidate without a party except for the independientes.

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by HolyMole @, Sunday, July 01, 2018, 14:08 (163 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

The Yucatan Times has an example of a Presidential ballot on Facebook today, and it shows that one could vote for Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador under one of three different party names, the same for Jose Antonio Meade and for Ricardo Anaya Cortes. Very confusing.


It’s how the parties get away with justifying their existence so they receive billions of pesos and are allowed to have plurinominales in the Cámara de Diputados and the Senado. Plurinominales are “apportioned representatives” named by the parties who don’t have to win by election. Yes, it’s a scam and very antidemocratic but it’s how the parties maintain their hold on power and protect their interests.

You can’t simply vote for a candidate without a party except for the independientes.

Sounds like a common sense election reform that could be made with the stroke of a pen....maybe an "Executive Order", a la Trump? Obviously, the parties and individuals who benefit from this quirky anomaly would fight any change, but how could anyone with integrity justify such nonsense? If AMLO is a "populist", there's one reform I'd expect his supporters would demand.

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Sunday, July 01, 2018, 12:59 (163 days ago) @ Talley Ho

My husband has dual US/Mex citizenship and just returned from voting at the Archaeological Museum. He's registered to vote in MX CD so he went to an "open" polling location (found in INE's website) that offered this ability. Of course, he couldn't vote for local/state candidates, only for the president of the republic and other federal offices.

He said everything was orderly and he was processed quickly. It's probably quiet today due to no alcohol sales.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, July 01, 2018, 13:08 (163 days ago) @ Susan G

My husband has dual US/Mex citizenship and just returned from voting at the Archaeological Museum. He's registered to vote in MX CD so he went to an "open" polling location (found in INE's website) that offered this ability. Of course, he couldn't vote for local/state candidates, only for the president of the republic and other federal offices.

He said everything was orderly and he was processed quickly. It's probably quiet today due to no alcohol sales.

Also quiet because everyone is watching the Mundial.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, July 01, 2018, 13:01 (163 days ago) @ Talley Ho

It's an incredibly quiet day, and it even looks as if there will be no trash pickup today on Playa la Ropa! Is that because of election day?

About 7:30am we saw a blue tarp being put up on the road down to Patty's and Villa Mexicana. There were people milling around. Since then we have seen a number of people walking in that direction, and what appears to be a couple of people who are possibly reminding people or walking them down to vote.

Are we imagining things, or is that what is going on? How does it work here? I know to vote citizens have to have their credential, but do they have to go to a specific place or what? Please Rob,fill us in!

Our credencial de elector has printed on it the sección which corresponds to our polling station. It is the only place we can vote in the 5 elections corresponding to us here. Tourists can only vote in federal elections at special polling stations set up for them. One is located by the museum. There is probably one at La Ropa, one in Ixtapa and maybe another at the Plaza Libertad de Expresión.

Our polling station was an hour late opening because at least one designated worker and their suplente, maybe more, simply didn’t show up. The law doesn’t allow the polling station to open without its designated personnel. Those who don’t want to be polling station workers should make it known well in advance so personnel can be found. I think the people who didn’t show up this morning should be fined for their disrespect towards the rest of the workers and the good citizens waiting to vote, but I don’t believe anything will come of it beyond getting the stink eye from their neighbors for a few days.

There is supposed to be no alcohol sales today but as usual local authorities make exceptions for restaurants. Last night was one of the most peaceful for sleeping that I can recall. No drunks. No boombox cars. No PUM DIDI PUM all night long from the bars. We could use more nights with ley seca. ;-)

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Sunday, July 01, 2018, 13:13 (163 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

The girl who cleans our house was asked to be a polling station worker in Nuevo Amanecer but the officials failed to notify her when and where her training was held. It's too bad, because she was ready and willing to help.

In the US, I held every position in our local polling place for many years (my mother also). Sad, because I was waiting to hear about her polling efforts.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, July 02, 2018, 08:20 (162 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Jorge Sánchez is going to be the next mayor of Zihuatanejo. Let's wish him the best of luck. He's going to need all our help to recover from the disaster his predecessor left him (not the interim mayor, Homero Rodriguez, who is doing the best he can given the constraints he's had to work with).

And of course we have a new president-elect, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, who won overwhelmingly as was expected. He's going to need all our help, too.

Thank goodness democracy still looks like democracy here in Mexico where a majority decides the winner. It's also good to see a non-polarized nation after the electoral process.

¡Viva Zihuatanejo! ¡Viva México! :vivamexico: