Fireworks?

by soozenmagoozen @, Tuesday, December 04, 2018, 17:43 (12 days ago)

Anyone know what for at 5:40pm now?

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Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, December 04, 2018, 17:53 (12 days ago) @ soozenmagoozen

They are pilgrims called guadalupanos and they are carrying their images of Guadalupe to be blessed at the church. The 12th of December is Día de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe. The most special day of the year for Mexicans.

Here's some background: Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe

Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe

by soozenmagoozen @, Tuesday, December 04, 2018, 23:08 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thank you, Rob.

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Fireworks?

by Talley Ho @, Tuesday, December 04, 2018, 18:10 (12 days ago) @ soozenmagoozen

Unfortunately, those weren't pilgrims, but yahoos that found cheap, loud booming fireworks.

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Fireworks?

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, December 04, 2018, 19:01 (12 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Unfortunately, those weren't pilgrims, but yahoos that found cheap, loud booming fireworks.

If we believe in karma then it must be the sins of our youth coming back to haunt us. :stones:

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by Talley Ho @, Tuesday, December 04, 2018, 19:03 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We just had that discussion! It's true.

Where is the embarrassed emoticon?

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by Casa Juan @, Tuesday, December 04, 2018, 20:22 (12 days ago) @ Talley Ho

ship the SOBs who ruin the lives of others in Zihua with their juvenile fireworks behavior to Afghanistan. Let them clear IEDs with their bare hands for a reward. Send the local officials who refuse to rein them in to clean up and pack their body bags for shipment home.

Color me fed up with the constant worthless barrage!

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by soozenmagoozen @, Tuesday, December 04, 2018, 23:10 (12 days ago) @ Casa Juan

W.o.w.

war zone?

by katherine @, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 05:40 (12 days ago) @ Casa Juan

Color me fed up with the constant worthless barrage!

Me too!! If you are anywhere close to the church when this is happening, it is like being in a war zone. They seem extra loud this year.

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by OlsenMN, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 07:41 (12 days ago) @ katherine

Color me fed up with the constant worthless barrage!


Me too!! If you are anywhere close to the church when this is happening, it is like being in a war zone. They seem extra loud this year.

Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their "fur babies":devil:

war zone?

by katherine @, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 08:54 (12 days ago) @ OlsenMN


Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their "fur babies":devil:

Many of my Mexican friends and acquaintances also complain about the explosions. Even those who don't have dogs. A few years ago, I was invited to participate in a Posada by a friend who was the manager of the Hotel Irma at the time. She specified no pyrotechnics for the participants (mostly employees of the hotel). Everyone carried candles and sang. It was a beautiful -- and dare I say -- "traditional" posada.

war zone?

by OlsenMN, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 09:11 (12 days ago) @ katherine


Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their "fur babies":devil:


Many of my Mexican friends and acquaintances also complain about the explosions. Even those who don't have dogs. A few years ago, I was invited to participate in a Posada by a friend who was the manager of the Hotel Irma at the time. She specified no pyrotechnics for the participants (mostly employees of the hotel). Everyone carried candles and sang. It was a beautiful -- and dare I say -- "traditional" posada.

Big cultural difference with different traditions (including fireworks) between the peregrinaciones de Día de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe and a posada.

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war zone?

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 09:27 (12 days ago) @ OlsenMN


Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their "fur babies":devil:


Many of my Mexican friends and acquaintances also complain about the explosions. Even those who don't have dogs. A few years ago, I was invited to participate in a Posada by a friend who was the manager of the Hotel Irma at the time. She specified no pyrotechnics for the participants (mostly employees of the hotel). Everyone carried candles and sang. It was a beautiful -- and dare I say -- "traditional" posada.


Big cultural difference with different traditions (including fireworks) between the peregrinaciones de Día de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe and a posada.

Katherine may be confusing posada with pilgrimage. We don't march and sing at posadas.

memory

by katherine @, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 13:51 (11 days ago) @ OlsenMN
edited by katherine, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 14:10

Blame it on my faulty memory. I did participate in the event, which I thought was called a posada. Mea culpa.

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war zone?

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 09:23 (12 days ago) @ katherine


Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their "fur babies":devil:


Many of my Mexican friends and acquaintances also complain about the explosions. Even those who don't have dogs. A few years ago, I was invited to participate in a Posada by a friend who was the manager of the Hotel Irma at the time. She specified no pyrotechnics for the participants (mostly employees of the hotel). Everyone carried candles and sang. It was a beautiful -- and dare I say -- "traditional" posada.

Yes, it seems the bottle rockets were introduced by outsiders because the majority of processions of guadalupanos from decades ago that I recall were as you describe. If you listen to this topic discussed on the local radio talk shows the explosions bother most folks here who are tired of any kind of explosions. With all the gunfire in the past decade or so few people here except some kids and nacos enjoy fireworks anymore. And the few bottle rockets launched back then were the kind that went psssssssst-pop. Not whooosssssssh-KABOOOOM! Many neighbors and passers-by complain and shudder at the absurd noise. Many residents are asking church authorities to speak with their guadalupanos and ask them not to launch fireworks, but our pleas seem to be falling on deaf ears. Like boombox cars and such, some folks need to call attention to themselves to feed their egos and feel noticed. I keep a bucket of water handy on my roof in case any foolish people march in front of our home launching rockets. And another bucket with rocks just in case... :hitfan: :devil:

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by jaui @, Zihuatanejo, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 13:33 (11 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

12/05/2018

Hola Z Rob:

MUY bien dicho.

:megusta:

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jaui

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by katherine @, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 13:53 (11 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

:megusta: Gracias, Rob.

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by Casa Juan @, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 13:30 (11 days ago) @ OlsenMN

utter nonsense to describe the fireworks barrage as a cultural tradition - I doubt it was passed down by the Nahuatal or Aztecs. Rather its juveniles with no direction and too much time on their hands.

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by karenanddick, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 06:00 (12 days ago) @ Casa Juan

Love your response.

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by jaui @, Zihuatanejo, Wednesday, December 05, 2018, 13:35 (11 days ago) @ karenanddick

12/05/2018

Love your response.

:megusta:

Hola @karenanddick

You've heard the saying:
"Con los costumbres se hacen leyes"

Sometimes "los costumbres" need adjustment to the changing & times, as well as to the rules, regulations and ENVIRONMENTAL NORMS, so as to be more in-line & compatible with the populations of the areas they are conducted.

Unfortunately, there are those who are a bit stubborn and selfish. As Z Rob correctly noted:

"Like boombox cars and such, some folks need to call attention to themselves to feed their egos and feel noticed."

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jaui