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by Sallienyc @, New York City, Friday, December 28, 2018, 12:14 (174 days ago)

I just received a message from the USA government that Zihuatanejo is on the do not travel level 4 list. Is anything different from last year?

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by Talley Ho @, Friday, December 28, 2018, 12:29 (174 days ago) @ Sallienyc

Nope. The only difference is how the US rates us.

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by Commander Barrett, Friday, December 28, 2018, 12:52 (174 days ago) @ Talley Ho

I'll be there in late April/May. It's far safer than plenty of places in the US.

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by Sallienyc @, New York City, Friday, December 28, 2018, 13:30 (174 days ago) @ Talley Ho

We have been going to Playa La Ropa for over 30 years and have never been afraid. We also do not stay out as late as we did years ago but it’s the same at home.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, December 28, 2018, 13:50 (174 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Nope. The only difference is how the US rates us.

What irony that a nation with nuclear weapons aimed at its major cities and a massacre every week or so has the gall to issue travel warnings to other countries but not its own.

Meanwhile, in Petatlán the police confiscated another arsenal of banned firearms, most of which are bought legally in the USA and apparently smuggled effortlessly into Mexico, including TWO .50 cal. Barretts. I can't begin to imagine why civilians are even allowed to purchase such weapons in the USA.

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by Skeet20 @, Friday, December 28, 2018, 20:42 (173 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

The reason civilians can buy these items in the US is we have a constitutional right to do so and being armed makes us safer
Homicides in 2017
Mexico. 31,174
U S. 17,250
Most homicides in the U S occur in cities with strict gun control and liberal democratic administrations.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, December 28, 2018, 21:10 (173 days ago) @ Skeet20

Please save the BS for one of your dumbed down fellow Kool-Aid drinkers. The stats don’t say what you claim they do, and I’m positive the Framers of the Constitution and its Bill of Rights did not want its citizens to have .50 cal Barretts. They simply wanted SLAVE STATES to sign on and ratify the Constitution. The fact the USA even had slaves is hypocritical enough in a nation where all men are supposed to be equal. I’ve spent half my life in Mexico and never been shot at. Can’t say the same for the USA where ammosexual psychocretins abound, all with easier access to firearms than a drivers license. Even Mexico’s violence you were so quick to cite has much to do with failed US policies and US hypocrisy than any problem of Mexican origin. So how long does a policy need to be an abject failure before you demand lawmakers fix it? 25 years? 50? 75?

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by Skeet20 @, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 09:19 (173 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Stop sugar coating it Rob. Tell us how you really feel.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 10:29 (173 days ago) @ Skeet20

Stop sugar coating it Rob. Tell us how you really feel.

Ha ha ha!

I’m not against responsible gun ownership, but with all due respect I found your reply insincere and contrived. The prohibition of popular substances is bad enough with all its grave repercussions, but the appearance of .50 cal. Barretts in Mexico began in earnest immediately following the unfortunate expiration of the USA’s ban on assault type weapons. Almost immediately our local police were ambushed using these weapons that could pierce the walls of the buildings where our police were stationed throughout our municipio and others along the coast. For all the complaints from folks in the USA about smuggling of drugs and people into the States, it appears even easier to smuggle US firearms into Mexico to arm the organized criminals empowered by the USA’s prohibition of popular substances that only creates a multibillion dollar a year black market. So please excuse my passionate response. I believe most Mexicans feel similarly as I do.

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by Eli @, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 13:24 (173 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Zihuarob...Yes!! My thoughts exactly!!

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by Quadra Paul @, Friday, December 28, 2018, 21:55 (173 days ago) @ Skeet20

"being armed makes us safer" Yeah Right! That only works when the other guy isn't!!

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by HolyMole, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 01:12 (173 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

"being armed makes us safer" Yeah Right! That only works when the other guy isn't!!

Well, the NRA disagrees:

"The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

Like a grade school teacher, a priest or minister, librarian, soccer coach, theater usher, restaurant waiter, nextdoor neighbour, gas station attendant, store cashier, Walmart greeter .........you get the picture. :woohoo:

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by Quadra Paul @, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 12:20 (173 days ago) @ HolyMole

You can see how well that's been working!

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by zulualpha, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 13:46 (173 days ago) @ HolyMole
edited by zulualpha, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 17:32

For those seeking to understand why some Americans view themselves, and their country, as "exceptional," take 90 seconds to review the stats at www.gunviolencearchive.org
To wit: Number of children (aged 0-11) killed or injured by gun violence (so far) this year: 656. Exceptional, indeed.

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by Craig AKA the cruise ship guy @, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 10:15 (173 days ago) @ Skeet20

Back home when we go to the movies I always look around for the exit routes just in case. When we went to the movies in Zihuatanejo the thought never crossed my mind. For some reason the Mexican people have much more respect for life than us crazy Americans. Just went to a comedy club last night and had to go through a metal detector to get in.

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by Eli @, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 13:22 (173 days ago) @ Skeet20

That is crazy thinking, Skeet!

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by midalake @, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 08:53 (173 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Nope. The only difference is how the US rates us.


What irony that a nation with nuclear weapons aimed at its major cities and a massacre every week or so has the gall to issue travel warnings to other countries but not its own.

Meanwhile, in Petatlán the police confiscated another arsenal of banned firearms, most of which are bought legally in the USA and apparently smuggled effortlessly into Mexico, including TWO .50 cal Barrett's. I can't begin to imagine why civilians are even allowed to purchase such weapons in the USA.

Ahh memory lane. There was a gun that first came out I remember it well. Barrett 50cal semi-auto 5 round clip. Since being a young man and not having a whole lot of cash, I tried to convince a friend to go half's on one. Why?? Take it out once a year and blow stuff up! Well never did get one, but I still remember the price $1,650. That is some simple math on what would of been a good investment! Now I think YES, there are guns people should not be allowed to own!

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by Vermont123, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 19:14 (172 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

It's time for the laws to change in the USA. I'm sick and tired of the Redneck Americans who think they need guns!

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by Casa Juan @, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 22:01 (172 days ago) @ Vermont123

I shot 4 squirrels this summer in central Alaska who were constantly chewing trying to get into my house. I slept well each time my shot connected and the remains were eaten by Ravens. I also prefer to have a few guns for larger varmits as well. Maybe you should move from Vermont, live free or die ( I believe ?) and go to somewhere like China where they are forbidden.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Sunday, December 30, 2018, 06:58 (172 days ago) @ Casa Juan

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by Paulf @, Mount Sterling, Ky 40353, Sunday, December 30, 2018, 10:11 (172 days ago) @ Casa Juan

When I was between 4 and 7. My grandpa kept a 22 and shotgun leaning against the front door frame- bullets were in a drawer close by. I was taught not to touch the guns. That was the culture in the mountains of Ky. There was no gun violence then. I can remember living in Texas where the ranchers had their rifles hanging on a rack across the back window and no one thought anything was abnormal- it was abnormal if you did not have a gun rack. Society has totally changed.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, December 30, 2018, 10:42 (172 days ago) @ Paulf

When I was between 4 and 7. My grandpa kept a 22 and shotgun leaning against the front door frame- bullets were in a drawer close by. I was taught not to touch the guns. That was the culture in the mountains of Ky. There was no gun violence then. I can remember living in Texas where the ranchers had their rifles hanging on a rack across the back window and no one thought anything was abnormal- it was abnormal if you did not have a gun rack. Society has totally changed.

Agree. Same here. I was taught to shoot and hunt not long after I learned to walk and ride a horse. Always with a strict teaching of respect for animals, not to kill for whim or pleasure, and to have great care with firearms, not wear them to the supermarket or display them in the rear window of pickup trucks like today's ammosexuals.

Gun laws and regulations need to be stricter nationwide. It's pointless regulate them in one city or state when neighboring cities and states allow easy access to them.

I can recall clearly how before the USA lifted the ban on military-type weapons, the worst firearms used by armed criminals in Mexico were old AK-47's for which they had much difficulty getting bullets. Now brand new military style firearms are common within every criminal organization, including .50 cal. Barretts. Something we used to never see.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, December 30, 2018, 10:16 (172 days ago) @ Casa Juan

I shot 4 squirrels this summer in central Alaska who were constantly chewing trying to get into my house. I slept well each time my shot connected and the remains were eaten by Ravens. I also prefer to have a few guns for larger varmits as well. Maybe you should move from Vermont, live free or die ( I believe ?) and go to somewhere like China where they are forbidden.

That was a rude thing to say. Just because you believe killing wild animals is fine doesn't mean everyone needs to agree with you, and it certainly doesn't give you any right or cause to tell someone to leave the USA and go to China. Vermont123 is absolutely correct that the USA has an epidemic disease and that there needs to be a serious reform in the gun laws.

But okay, let's play your game and give the 2nd Amendment the same Divine status as the Bible or the Torah or the Quran that ammosexuals like to give it. You've currently got a tyrant in the White House who represents a clear and present danger to the USA and its Constitution. Now's your chance to use the 2nd Amendment's precepts to prove what a real friggin patriot you are.

Oh, and you belong to which "well regulated militia"?

I believe you owe Vermont123 an apology.

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by Vermont123, Sunday, December 30, 2018, 20:01 (171 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thank you.

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by Fuceneh @, Friday, December 28, 2018, 18:44 (173 days ago) @ Sallienyc

Trump drama- no wall- no travel- tweet tweet

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, December 28, 2018, 19:57 (173 days ago) @ Fuceneh

Trump drama- no wall- no travel- tweet tweet

So why does he need a wall when he can just close the border? :snicker:

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by Fuceneh @, Friday, December 28, 2018, 20:42 (173 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

He can’t close the border....too many illegal entry points..

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by Quadra Paul @, Friday, December 28, 2018, 21:51 (173 days ago) @ Fuceneh

He says he can! BUT?

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by Paulf @, Mount Sterling, Ky 40353, Saturday, December 29, 2018, 09:47 (173 days ago) @ Sallienyc

For the last 5 or 6 years I have been advised by my son who is a FBI Agent in Chicago that we should not travel to our favorite place(he can"t travel to parts of Mexico). I reply, it is safer there than in the Chicago area- no answer. Kindly reminds me of when I was in the service and was given Off Limits List where not to go.