Getting my household items into Mexico

by ToddJerad @, Tuesday, January 08, 2019, 00:15 (8 days ago)

Few questions . I have furniture (no appliances) that I want to import to a house near la ropa. I am finding this process extremely difficult and could use advice. I have about a 12 ft box truck worth of household goods. Companies handling transport through customs want 15000 US dollars from Los Angeles CA which is crazy imo. I have the list of goods completed etc and quotes were based off list with sizing. Has anybody else contracted a mover from California , other USstates or Canada ? Is this amount normal to ship a small truckload in? This route didn’t require me going to Mexican Consolate.

Alternatively I need to gain residency either permanent or temporarily to contract a customs agent to cross My goods into Mexico? Anyone know about this process for shipping? I have the means to tramsport the furniture to the border myself. I guess this route is less expensive and I can cut costs this way to accomplish my goal. I can hire a Mexican moving firm like a Castores to bring to Z once across border. I have read on here a few of you drive it into Mexico yourselves but that isn’t an option for Me for a few reasons. How do I bring super cool vintage furniture from my CA house to Mexico without selling a kidney?

-T

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Getting my household items into Mexico

by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Tuesday, January 08, 2019, 05:24 (8 days ago) @ ToddJerad

The climate on the coast is death to anything man-made. You might consider putting your "super cool, vintage furniture" on the market, since it most likely won't do well in Zihua. You'll find lots of quite attractive and inexpensive furniture in the area.

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Getting my household items into Mexico

by Gringo Viejo @, Kansas/Zihuatanejo, Tuesday, January 08, 2019, 08:18 (8 days ago) @ ToddJerad

Can import export brokers help? Google is your friend; How to ship personal furniture to Mexico?

Getting my household items into Mexico

by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Tuesday, January 08, 2019, 08:44 (8 days ago) @ Gringo Viejo

This is what we did in Tucson nearly 4 years ago:

Go to a Mexican consulate and fill out a Menaje de Casa form before you make your app for either permanent or temporary residency. The form asks you to outline what kinds of furniture (living room, dining room, bedroom -- it's not real detailed, but broader in scope). This will enable you to import all your household items into Mexico w/out paying import taxes at the border. We had a lot of custom-made furniture that we wanted to keep.

You will, however, have to pay a moving company like Castores, which, we felt, was quite reasonable. Customs brokers can assist you. The $15,000 US price was WAY out of line. Ask around and bargain for a lower one. We paid about $400 US.

Getting my household items into Mexico

by Scott, Playa del Carmen, Quintana Roo, Mexico, Tuesday, January 08, 2019, 08:43 (8 days ago) @ ToddJerad

You might want to look into something called a menaje de casa. If you get a new temporary or permanent resident visa, you're allowed to bring in your household goods that ordinarily you wouldn't be able to without tax. But you have to do it within a certain number of months, and there's a certain process you have to follow. I haven't done it myself. I think it involves documenting every single item you're bringing in, and possibly getting the list certified at a consulate.

Maybe you could get the stuff to the border and import yourself, with the menaje de casa, then ship domestically from the border town.

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We did it in June

by Talley Ho @, Tuesday, January 08, 2019, 13:05 (8 days ago) @ ToddJerad

Respectfully, we have always lived within a couple of hundred meters of the ocean, and I was born beachfront. The only issues we have had with the deterioration of items has been electronics. They don't last as long really close to the water. Other items, including vehicles, do just fine as long as you give them the care they require.

In June, we brought down our household items.

October,2016, we got our permanent residency, skipping the temporary one. In February, 2017, we bought a house here. We decided to move here permanently and bring "some" stuff down with us, mostly our kitchen items and our art. We bought a vehicle here and an 8 foot enclosed trailer, both plated in Mexico. I drove them to California, he drove the RV. In less than 3 months we were back, having divested ourselves of most of our possessions including a house, RV, car and everything else. We found out that we had had our permanent residency for too long to use a menaje de casa, so started contacting import brokers. We had almost no luck having anyone want to even talk to us because we didn't have enough stuff.

We decided to box everything, write a semi-itemized list of contents on each numbered box and make three hard copies of it too. We also took photos on our phone showing the sequence of loading and what was in the trailer. We loaded up the trailer the Durango the two dogs and the cat and crossed at Nogales at 6am on a Tuesday, statistically the easiest day to cross at the location that is easiest too.

When we got to the "Items to Declare"line, we were pulled aside. We had our lists, our pictures and were prepared to pay whatever and spend the day. A woman came out, looked at our lists, and the trailer. She wanted us to unload it until we showed her the photos on the phone. Then all she wanted to see was under our paddle boards. That was easy. Her boss came out, looked at another set of our lists, the photos, and told me to follow him to the office. He charged us 3,000p duty, paid only by credit card, gave me the receipt, shook my hand and we were on the road in 35 minutes.

We sold the trailer and Durango within 3 months and bought a more appropriately sized vehicle. We are very happy here in paradise.

We did it in June

by ToddJerad @, Tuesday, January 08, 2019, 14:16 (8 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Thank you guys for the info. This is somewhat encouraging. I do have detailed photos and measurements for furniture over 3 feet. I have a detailed list of everything in each box. I was very careful since I had this done assuming the door to door broker needed to still produce a Menaje de Casa to his customs agent. Talley Ho, was getting permanent residency as easy as showing property title in Mex? bank statements, income? What was timing like for visa. The temp visa requires I bring furniture back and leave after 4 years and Id love to skip that if possible. I have a full time job and do not have my own vehicle to bring in myself nor really want to unless last case. Was the 400 the shipping fee to Z from Nogales? I may need these guys number hahaha if they have a truck in TJ. Once you had the Visa did you contract the border agent or just show up at the location. Apparently I need to bring to the border agents warehouse where they contract someone or in house the movement of goods across border to a secure location in Mexico. At that point a shipper takes to me. The logistics are tricky and I need to have this timed right. But i now know where to start. Thank you all. Frostbite, cool vintage furniture was a joke, I just have goods to bring down that fit the design and want to make it happen. Ill let you come by and see the Warhols, Basquiats, and Matisses if they make it ;-)

-T

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We did it in June

by Talley Ho @, Tuesday, January 08, 2019, 14:31 (8 days ago) @ ToddJerad

You are mixing up information from our posting and Susan's posting. We did it ourselves with a trailer, they did it with assistance.

Getting our permanent residency was easy. It must be done your home country. I contacted the consulate, their person in charge of this gave me a list of what was needed and asked that when it was all assembled that I send him photos of everything. I did that,he asked for a few changes, then made the appointment for the interview and the delivery of the actual paperwork. It was with Oswaldo who had worked with me on line! Talk about easy. An hour later, we walked out with what we needed. Once we got here we had 30 days to go to Immigration. That took less than an hour, then we returned for our cards. Very easy to do, painless, inexpensive. Pretty much proof of net worth and/or income.

We did it in June

by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Wednesday, January 09, 2019, 08:37 (7 days ago) @ Talley Ho
edited by Susan G, Wednesday, January 09, 2019, 08:44

Todd - We have 5 large fine art oils (5x6 ft) from southwest artist "Joby" we purchased in galleries that had to be especially wrapped for "overseas" shipping, besides very large heavy-duty glass-top metal tables and mirrors. Be sure to pack them upright in shipping containers made for this. Once we brought them all in two huge U-hauls to Nogales, Son., the customs agent observed the Menaje de Casa list while Castores unloaded the U-hauls and shipped all furniture and art to a temperature-controlled storage facility in Mexico City where they sat while we built in Zihua for a year. Then Castores brought them here. Only one very large Tarahumara pot broke...

We filled out a resident form in Tucson from our income and banking notices, then went to the INAMI office in Mexico within 30 days and received a permanent residency card.

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We did it in June

by Talley Ho @, Wednesday, January 09, 2019, 13:13 (7 days ago) @ Susan G

Great point! We were unsure how to pack several items so looked it up on line. We are 99% unpacked and so far not a single thing broken, damaged, chipped, cracked, nothing.

We did it in June

by ToddJerad @, Wednesday, January 09, 2019, 22:59 (6 days ago) @ Susan G

This is very helpful information. Im pretty well versed now but here’s the thing...

I received another quote of close to 13000 us. this quote is for the shipping to Z from Nogales. I would need to contract s mover to Nogales from Los Angeles. The fee includes the shipper to deal with the border agent , customs, transfer to another 42 ft truck, and shipped to z. I need about 12ft haha. I was told by two shippers that in mexico almost all cross country shipping is done with 42’ trucks. True or not I haven’t found otherwise yet. The large expense is due to size and hard to share bc of Z’s remote location apparently. Opinions on price vs castores? I was confused in your wording if the 400 was for border agent only or shipping with castores. That can’t be for the shipping only right?. To me, 12 plus thousand seems high to get some mid century dining and bedroom furniture , ptgs , two mattresses , three TVs and books down, no? Also would this process be possible if I had paperwork, visa, manaje, all completed prior and wasn’t present in Nogales?

All info greatly appreciated
-T
Tomorrow more calls.

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We did it in June

by Talley Ho @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 13:06 (6 days ago) @ ToddJerad

Buy a 12 foot trailer and bring your stuff down yourself. We drove it easily in 4 nights, 5 days from just north of LA, could have done it faster if necessary.

You need to re evaluate what you are bringing down. Forget the TV's, mattresses, that kind of thing and buy them here. Except for items with sentimental value or artistic or in our case, our kitchen stuff, you can replace it all for less than it will cost you to bring it down.

We did it in June

by ToddJerad @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 15:00 (6 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Talley Ho,

I'm not permanently moving down to Z, one day yes, but now just vacation property. What you're suggesting is the best idea but realistically not going to happen with everything going on in my life. I put in a message to Castores to see what they suggest but so far they are not responding to email or calling back. I really wanted to pay for that service of basically someone in a truck or trailer doing this for me and me compensating them rather well, just 10 plus thousand dollars was more compensation than I expected haha.

T