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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, August 23, 2019, 11:30 (89 days ago)

While criminally greedy interests cheer on the flames in the Amazon, and while the U.S. president commits Crimes Against Humanity yet proclaims himself king of the Jews, Mexico's shortcomings seem to pale by comparison as we continue confronting and tackling our historical problems. I thank my lucky stars each day that I wake up in this beautiful place, one more day in paradise with the love of my life with whom every single day has been the absolute best day of my life. If these are humanity's final days, I'm right where I want to be among the people I want to be with.

In case anyone was wondering why Calle Ejido has been closed for the past couple of days, it's because of a velorio for a beloved son of the community who was gunned down a couple of days ago not by organized criminals but by greedy bastards trying to take over the Ejido de Zihuatanejo over which he presided. But far from striking fear into our hearts, the greedy bastards united us and strengthened our resolve to see the responsible people brought to justice one way or another.

Also, the newly formed Guardia Nacional finally arrived to Zihuatanejo. Patrols and roadblocks have been stepped up, and that light at the end of the tunnel just got much closer and brighter.

School starts next Monday for most children across Mexico. Although it's supposed to be illegal for schools to charge an inscription fee, parents everywhere are complaining that they are indeed being charged inscription fees, usually amonting to several hundred pesos, which after all the costs parents have had for clothing and supplies is the gota que derrama el vaso. Schools are supposed to justify their expenses in their requests to the government for funding, so these inscription fees are now less justifiable than ever before.

There appears to be a last-minute rush of tourists taking advantage of our excellent weather just as many lodgings are lowering their rates for the slow season. Even though by all accounts this summer season has been slower than last year, local comerciantes and service workers still show their appreciation and gratitude, making our visitors feel warmly welcomed and at home, a trademark of Zihuatanejo and the surrounding region. ¡Viva!

This morning at the zócalo.
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With the lack of rains the bay has remained extremely clean for the summer vacationers who have been able to swim at our downtown beach without any worries of pollution. Truly a welcome sight.
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by JACK @, Friday, August 23, 2019, 14:58 (89 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thanks for the info. However, you could have left the comment about Trump out of it, whether people like him or not.

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by RC, Friday, August 23, 2019, 17:32 (88 days ago) @ JACK

Sorry but Trump and his supporters need to be chastised and vilified at every turn. Jack, if you can't take the heat, don't comment on it. Democracy is being dismantled as a result of this idiot and everything must be done to turn the tide in the upcoming presidential election. Why isn't everyone chanting "LOCK HIM UP"

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by Dalejb, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 01:47 (88 days ago) @ RC

RC, If you can't take the heat, don't ......

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by JoAnna @, Colorado, Friday, August 23, 2019, 16:26 (89 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Actually, I think politics should be talked about. Otherwise it’s like sticking your head in the sand & ignoring the deplorable situation the US is in today!

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Friday, August 23, 2019, 17:08 (88 days ago) @ JoAnna

:megusta:

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by rojo, Friday, August 23, 2019, 19:38 (88 days ago) @ JoAnna

Yes, because we do not talk and debate the issues in politics, the results are an uninformed vote, and now we see the results in the US.

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by Aunt Chelada, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 07:35 (88 days ago) @ JoAnna

JoAnna, I totally agree with you. But a biased forum like this just isn't the place to do it.

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by Bill Fun, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 07:53 (88 days ago) @ Aunt Chelada

I certainly agree. This forum political bend is a "liberal free-fire zone".

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by Aunt Chelada, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 08:22 (88 days ago) @ Bill Fun

The cuckoo bird is a protected (and coddled) species in this Amazon forest. Watch where you step and keep your mouth closed when you look up.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 09:08 (88 days ago) @ Aunt Chelada

And yet, here are some comments from the right, and nobody's bitching.

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by Aunt Chelada, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 09:25 (88 days ago) @ frostbite

I'm kind of in the middle and refereeing. You've got them outnumbered 20 to 1.

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by jay, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 13:01 (88 days ago) @ Aunt Chelada

And that's how it should be. In any sane, rational world, no more than 1 in 20 would support such a boorish, incompetent and dishonest clod. But we don't live in that world do we.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 09:58 (88 days ago) @ Aunt Chelada

JoAnna, I totally agree with you. But a biased forum like this just isn't the place to do it.

Wasn’t I clear? This is my website and you don’t get to make that call. I thought I was extremely polite on the matter of the POS terrorist and criminal you call a president, but if there are any doubts and anyone feels the need to expose their personal shortcomings publicly defending the undefendable I will personally hand you your ass. I don’t need any backup. Calling out cult-following nazis, brain-dead zombies and traitors is child’s play.

But what a shame that you and Bill simply couldn’t keep your frailties to yourselves. Personally I thought the info I revealed on other matters was much more intellectually valuable. But the usual suspects just had to crap all over the place.

What a fine howdy do to wake up to.

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by Aunt Chelada, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 11:11 (88 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Good Morning sunshine!

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by nicatnit, Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 20:59 (83 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob: I wouldn’t say you’ve been extremely polite regarding your criticism of President Trump. You’re rather hostile honestly. But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. At least that’s true in places that allow free speech.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 22:57 (83 days ago) @ nicatnit

Rob: I wouldn’t say you’ve been extremely polite regarding your criticism of President Trump. You’re rather hostile honestly. But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. At least that’s true in places that allow free speech.

People who support a racist POS who incites terrorism against Mexicans have no moral claim to free speech here or anywhere. Go preach crazy somewhere else.

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by nicatnit, Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 20:38 (83 days ago) @ JoAnna

The situation in the US isn’t deplorable. The nation is sharply divided along ideological and political lines to be sure. But the outright hostility of Democrats that cannot accept the outcome of the last election is actually incredible. Didn’t happen when Obama was elected and re-elected. The great Promise of Hope and Change turned out to be the Great Dividier and Trump has put the division into the stratosphere. But who will represent the Democrats in a year or so. I’d like to get a perspective from any posters on this. I know I’m in the minority on this board because I’m a conservative Republican, but I do value comments with which I may disagree.

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by midalake @, Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 22:00 (83 days ago) @ nicatnit

The situation in the US isn’t deplorable. The nation is sharply divided along ideological and political lines to be sure. But the outright hostility of Democrats that cannot accept the outcome of the last election is actually incredible. Didn’t happen when Obama was elected and re-elected. The great Promise of Hope and Change turned out to be the Great Dividier and Trump has put the division into the stratosphere. But who will represent the Democrats in a year or so. I’d like to get a perspective from any posters on this. I know I’m in the minority on this board because I’m a conservative Republican, but I do value comments with which I may disagree.

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NO, you do not value anything if you still support Trump. YOU and everyone else needs to apologize.


Trump is a name calling, lying, narcissist pig of a man with no moral compass. Who should be handing out towels in one of his CC locker rooms rather than sitting in the oval office.

Was I crystal?

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 22:04 (83 days ago) @ nicatnit

nicatnit -- what is the point of sending SEVEN messages to respond to this? I'm really tired of looking at the board messages to view your responses. Did you know that you can edit the first message to include all of your others?

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by RC, Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 22:36 (83 days ago) @ Susan G

nicatnit: One who supports a racist is a racist. One who supports a fascist is a fascist. One who supports a nit wit is well a ...
As I said in my earlier post Trump and his supporters, i.e. you, need to be chastised and vilified at every turn. What goes around comes around, and it will, to you and all like you.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 22:50 (83 days ago) @ Susan G

nicatnit -- what is the point of sending SEVEN messages to respond to this? I'm really tired of looking at the board messages to view your responses. Did you know that you can edit the first message to include all of your others?

No he can’t ‘cause I just nixed his deplorable ass. We don’t need supporters of a person who incites acts of terrorism against Mexicans here on my forum or in Mexico. Dude picked a bad day to fly that crazy flag here.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 06:04 (83 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

While I certainly don't agree with nicatnit's politics, at least he was polite in expressing them. Blocking him doesn't feel right.

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by Aunt Chelada, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 07:45 (83 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob, if you feel that way about Trump now after a little over 2 1/2 years as the US president, it might be a big if, but what if he gets re-elected? Other than an increase in your blood pressure medication, will your life change?

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 08:03 (83 days ago) @ Aunt Chelada

Rob, if you feel that way about Trump now after a little over 2 1/2 years as the US president, it might be a big if, but what if he gets re-elected? Other than an increase in your blood pressure medication, will your life change?


Imagine what willl happen if he's not reelecte. Endless daily disruptive tweets from ex-president Trump, firing up his base and spreading more hate and dissension until he ie either dead or too demented to tweet.

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by Aunt Chelada, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 08:18 (83 days ago) @ Timmac

There will be no more base and his tweets will cease as no more people will read or report them. Life will move on just like it has in the past.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 08:20 (83 days ago) @ Aunt Chelada

One can only hope!

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by NYCJulia, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 09:14 (83 days ago) @ Aunt Chelada

If Donald Trump loses the 2020 election, there is a good chance he will return to his former life as an entertainer. In a NYTimes article on October 17, 2016, it was reported that Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, was pursuing the possibility of acquiring a broadcast network for Donald Trump. This has been a long held desire of the Trumps. With a loyal base of millions, there is money to be made. Do you really believe that with Donald Trump out of the White House, his most ardent followers will just dry up and blow away? If you cherish the values of honesty v outright lies, good government v a scandal-ridden swamp, democracy v kakistocracy (look it up, I did), a free press v state-controlled media, alliances v a go-it-alone path, and respect for ALL people/countries, be prepared for continued struggle, regardless of how the 2020 election plays out. It takes more than venting. Be involved!
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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 08:37 (83 days ago) @ Aunt Chelada

Rob, if you feel that way about Trump now after a little over 2 1/2 years as the US president, it might be a big if, but what if he gets re-elected? Other than an increase in your blood pressure medication, will your life change?

Read carefully what I said. You're next on the list. If you have any desire at all to defend and support a man who incites acts of violence and terrorism against Mexicans, we don't want you here in Mexico. I strongly urge you not to reply.

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by blazian @, San Diego, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 10:57 (83 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

:megusta: :popcorn:

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by hromero ⌂ @, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 15:36 (83 days ago) @ nicatnit

The response that the Republicans were somehow more willing to accept the election of Obama seems patently disingenuous to me for a couple of reasons.

1. The entire conversation about whether Obama was really born in the United States was a blatant rejection of Obama as a legitimate person to hold the office. If the birtherism movement had been a small fringe element of the Republican party I might be able to hear you about that point. But it was a large element of the party including the current occupant of the Oval office. It was an argument that only gained traction because of racism. If you don't think so note how the argument didn't catch on as well when applied to Senator Ted Cruz. I think both instances were ridiculous but the claims against Obama gained more traction due to the color of his skin.

2. The Republican party as directed by Moscow Mitch made it clear from the outset of Obama's presidency that they would oppose any agenda Obama put forward regardless of the merit of it. Their sole aim was to prevent his re-election, and that is in his words.

3. The grounds for not accepting Trump's election are far firmer. He didn't win the popular vote. While that is how the current law is set up and therefore his election is legitimate, it makes far harder to accept that his election represents the will of the people.

I would like to think that we who are U.S. citizens agree on a lot more than we disagree on, racism is one that I think is a core disagreement that I am unwilling to compromise on. There are unfortunately enough people who are either blatantly racist (i.e.think that brown skinned human beings are somehow inferior to lighter skinned human beings) or are so used to their privilege that they are unwilling to stand up for them. I believe in the aspirations of the founders who believed that all humans have inalienable rights regardless of the heritage. I am proud of the times that the U.S. has got that right and I am well aware of the many times that it has failed to do that. The current political climate that is attempting to vilify immigrants from s***hole countries (i.e. humans of brown skin) and want immigration from European countries (i.e. lighter skinned humans) is an instance that I think we are getting it wrong.
The U.S. isn't great because it has the best military in the world, or the biggest economy or even the best people. It has been great in the past because it espoused an ideal that brought many people out of poverty and gave opportunity to those who didn't have it before. The U.S. is quickly losing that because it has stopped progressing towards the ideal that all humans are equal and instead is embracing an ideal that says some few people deserve to be where they are because of their heritage. There are some lessons for us to learn from other countries in that regard.

Ok, stepping down off my soapbox for now.:deadhorse: :stirpot:

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by Sandy feet, Seattle, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 16:05 (83 days ago) @ hromero

Right on!

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by mexicoman @, Zihuatanejo, Thursday, August 29, 2019, 18:43 (82 days ago) @ hromero

Abso-fu**king-lutely!!

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Friday, August 30, 2019, 05:58 (82 days ago) @ hromero

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by Bill Fun, Friday, August 30, 2019, 10:02 (82 days ago) @ hromero

We could have a discussion all day long on which side poisoned-the-well on bi-partisanship in Washington since both sides are to blame. Some would argue that it really took off after Obama/the Democrats rammed through the Affordable-Care-Act in 2010 without any compromises or serious discussions in areas such as liability reform, increasing market forces, etc. In fact the Democrats didn’t even hold a final vote on it but used a parliamentary procedure to finally pass it so as not force their members in swing districts in voting for the final bill.

This was truly unprecedented for a major piece of legislation that affect every US citizen and was in contrast to other similar major ones such as the Social Security act in the 30s which had bi-partisan support and contained compromises.

I think continuing to say one side or the other is totally to blame for this sad situation or to resort to name-calling anyone that has a different opinion only further divides the nation. Finally to suggest that we should have “open borders” is not well supported and that most countries in the world have highly restrictive immigration policies (much greater than the US) for a variety of reasons.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, August 30, 2019, 11:26 (82 days ago) @ Bill Fun

Gee, Bill, maybe if your Republican brethren were honorable men of their word instead of backstabbing renegers on their promises and outright RACISTS you might have an argument. But you can go back and check the record, because I recall the process in detail. What President Obama wanted, while he was also busy rescuing the failed economy he inherited, was a way to bring out of control skyrocketing health care costs down that included protections for pre-existing conditions AND a public option for the lesser affluent, but Republicans conditioned their support on dropping the public option and modeling the ACA on RomneyCare, and as we all know except for you who has apparently forgotten, the Republicans decided at the last minute before the vote that NO Republican would vote in favor of the bill and that no matter what they would oppose any and all legislation President Obama wanted. So to salvage ACA after the Republicans reneged on their promise and on their Constitutional duty, the procedure you described was used. Oh, my!

So if THAT was indignant to you, what DO you call 8 years of outright OBSTRUCTIONISM and especially NOT EVEN ALLOWING A VOTE for over a year on President Obama’s pick for a Supreme Court Justice?

And where is your indignation over having a lying lawbreaking racist who inspires acts of terrorism against Mexicans and other minorities who by all appearances not only is a fascist authoritarian calling for violence against the free press but who has nothing but insults for everyone except people who kiss his ass, and who refuses to say one negative word about Putin? Laughing in the Oval Office with Russia’s top U.S. spy over firing the FBI Director Comey. He sure acts like a Russian asset if not a full-fledged agent.

You’ll just have to excuse me for calling out your phony argument and overwhelming hypocrisy. The facts and the events speak for themselves. Since Nixon’s humiliation Republicans sought revenge. The defining moment they want us all to forget is when they made a deal with the Iranian hostage takers to give them arms BANNED BY U.S. LAW in exchange for NOT RELEASING THE HOSTAGES UNTIL AFTER RONALD REAGAN WAS SWORN IN. Iran-Contra ring a bell? From that point forward the Republican Party became and has continued to act like the TRAITORS they are. And that is exactly how you deserve to be treated. Forget the Dems, they have their own devils, but they pale in comparison.

Anyone supporting The Chump at this point has no excuses.

And I don’t care to see any more such drivel here.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, August 30, 2019, 14:02 (82 days ago) @ Bill Fun

And I don't know where you get this crap about "open borders". The only people who bring that up are screaming banshees on Faux Snooze. Try France24 or Deutsche Welle or even Newsy.

There wouldn't be undocumented people in the USA if it didn't serve rich and powerful interests like Koch Industries and The Chump. That is entirely a self-inflicted wound. Just like your drug gangs, opioid addictions, and Gunslinger Nation problems.

Tighter enforcement along the U.S.-Mexico border backfired, researchers find

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by Bill Fun, Friday, August 30, 2019, 16:31 (81 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to reply.

The original comment I was responding to seems to infer this in the last paragraph. In addition a number of Democratic candidates are strongly pushing to elimination ICE, which results in a "defacto" open border situation.

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by jay, Friday, August 30, 2019, 17:55 (81 days ago) @ Bill Fun

Law enforcement tends to attract people with a bulldog mentality. That's good. In fact it's a important qualification for the job. But it's that same mentality that pushes them to occasionally step over the line and abuse their authority. That's why we need strong laws and decisive leadership to keep them on the straight and narrow. But we don't have that with ICE. Instead we have Trump and his Reichsmarschall, Herr Miller, who don't give a rat's ass about the law, who keep pushing them harder and harder until some of them, inevitably, commit abuses and a lot of innocent people get hurt.
I don't mind ICE as long as they do their jobs professionally and humanely and within the letter and spirit of the law. But when their superiors and a good chunk of the public look the other way at their abusive behavior, it has us rocketing toward a police state. We're more than halfway there already and there's no end in sight.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 07:11 (81 days ago) @ jay

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, August 30, 2019, 18:26 (81 days ago) @ Bill Fun

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to reply.

The original comment I was responding to seems to infer this in the last paragraph. In addition a number of Democratic candidates are strongly pushing to elimination ICE, which results in a "defacto" open border situation.

Oh, so you've simply ignored everything discussed above and now jumped on to something else entirely.

ICE = GESTAPO

We've seen this before and it didn't end well.

You wouldn't even be thinking about the borders or brown-skinned undocumented people if you didn't allow yourself to be manipulated by SLIMEBAG politicians who do NOT have your or the nation's best interests at heart. Grow a pair, Bill.

And without the meddling and failed policies of the U.S. government, tens of thousands of people from Mexico, Central and South America, would NOT be fleeing their homes for the U.S. border. The folks who come there to work would return to their homes if you hadn't militarized the border. READ THE PRINCETON REPORT. It agrees with something I've been saying since the 90's.

Imagine if Mexico sent its secret police and military forces into the USA to take out people it considered a threat. You can't even imagine it, can you? But that's exactly what the USA has been doing for decades in Latin American nations and around the world. The results have predictably been disastrous, but most U.S. citizens turn a blind eye to it if they're even aware of it.

While you're worrying about brown-skinned foreigners, extremely wealthy people and corporations are usurping your government and crazy white racists are planning the next terrorist attack. The threat to your "way of life" isn't the poor brown-skinned people seeking to work, Bill. It's your unbridled greed-driven capitalist system itself. Something political scientists (and even Dr. Stephen Hawking) have been trying to tell you for generations.

Want to know who you should be fearing? Here's a hint (and it's just the tip of the iceberg):
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by Bill Fun, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 07:00 (81 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Getting back to my original post about 4 back - I was very surprised that I was subject to one of Rob's signature anti-Trump rants since my post wasn't about Trump but was in response to Mr. Hromero posts. It deal with the grid-lock over the last 10 years in Washington where one party is more interested in blame the other rather than what is best for the country and secondly, on what I construed as push to have open borders.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 10:05 (81 days ago) @ Bill Fun

Getting back to my original post about 4 back - I was very surprised that I was subject to one of Rob's signature anti-Trump rants since my post wasn't about Trump but was in response to Mr. Hromero posts. It deal with the grid-lock over the last 10 years in Washington where one party is more interested in blame the other rather than what is best for the country and secondly, on what I construed as push to have open borders.

JMFC, Bill. You didn't read a damn thing ANYONE said. You just overlaid your myopic prejudice based on erroneous misconceptions of rewritten history, layer upon layer.

I replied DIRECTLY to your comments but apparently you have a severe reading comprehension issue. Either deal with what's been said in direct reply to your comments or your posts will simply be deleted.

Gridlock because Moscow Mitch and his clan are no longer representing We The People. It's all there in my reply to you. Did I use too many big words or abstract concepts? Do you need the For Dummies version?

How about the fact that Republicans are and have been acting like TRAITORS? Just brush it off? Too far-fetched for you? Except the proof is in their actions. Moscow Mitch refuses to pass election security measures that Special Counsel Robert Mueller emphasized over and over in his report and testimony before Congress where the only thing Republicans did was try to discredit him. TRAITORS, Bill. You are party to TREASON if you continue defending what the Republican Party has evolved into. The Chump ignores the recommendations of the nation's entire intelligence services and publicly humiliated the entire country, especially in Reykjavik and later in Kyoto.

Sorry, Bill, but no one wants to work with Russian agents in the Republican Party in Congress. Or a Russian agent in the Oval Office.

The entire world is laughing at you and extremely concerned with what has happened to the U.S. government, and you want to discuss "gridlock". It's not gridlock, it's dysfunction as part of the Russian strategy to undermine the U.S. government and weaken the nation.

Besides the Russian oligarchs financing The Chump and Moscow Mitch to subvert the U.S. government, another super rich "financier" is up to his ears in also manipulating Moscow Mitch and The Chump as well as standing to benefit from the establishment of new farmlands in the Amazon. Educate yourself, old son.

A TOP FINANCIER OF TRUMP AND MCCONNELL IS A DRIVING FORCE BEHIND AMAZON DEFORESTATION

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The Dunning-Kruger Effect May Help Explain Trump's Support

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by Bill Fun, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 11:42 (81 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
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All I can suggest is that you read my original post about 6 back now which was in response to another post (nothing that you posted). You are the one who brought up all these other topics and seem to want me to support Trump, which I do not and who I did not vote for.

At any rate enjoy your day since we are not going to solve anything here.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 11:56 (81 days ago) @ Bill Fun

All I can suggest is that you read my original post about 6 back now which was in response to another post (nothing that you posted). You are the one who brought up all these other topics and seem to want me to support Trump, which I do not and who I did not vote for.

At any rate enjoy your day since we are not going to solve anything here.

Yeah. That's the one I responded to that you called a Trump rant. Mentioned him once inconsequentially at the end. READING COMPREHENSION COUNTS FOR EXTRA POINTS. You ignored every point and factual piece of history brought up there as well as later. It's almost as if you just aren't paying attention or like Melania, you just don't care..

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by Bill Fun, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 13:26 (81 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I guess the main point we diverge on is our recollection of the process that the ACA was pushed through congress and its contribution to the deep partisanship divide that has existed since. I still think mine is reasonable but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.

Secondly, your hammering away at immigration seem to go way beyond my suggestion that open borders will not fly with very very few countries (if any) in the world have them. Immigration is a hot-button issues in most countries and is rolling most European ones now. Don't forget immigrating to another country is commonly very dangerous. For example,hundreds died while crossing the Mediterranean every month. So to single out the US for causing any deaths seem to be much.

Sorry, if I offended you otherwise.

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by hromero ⌂ @, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 11:52 (81 days ago) @ Bill Fun

Bill, I think you may have misunderstood my response.

1. I agree that both the democratic and republican parties share blame in the gridlock that exists. My post was in response to a prior post by Nicanit who placed the blame squarely on Obama and the democratic party for starting this situation. We need to start talking like americans again, rather than like democrats and republicans.

2. I never called for open borders in my post and I don't think that is the ideas we should have. I simply think that the current system of quotas that the U.S. has based on the country you are from (i.e. what color your skin is likely to be) is a very bad policy and detours from the ideals we should be holding which is to allow a reasonable and legal way for people who are oppressed to enter our country.

It seems undeniable to me that the current administration has stoked racism in our fair country (i.e. U.S.) in order to advance their own agendas. Agendas which increasingly seem to favor dictators, autocrats and oppressive regimes around the world.

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Who's Burning The Amazon

by Bill Fun, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 13:09 (81 days ago) @ hromero

Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I can agree with all of that with the possible exception of the last sentence. Certainly Trump is an incorrigible person for the most part.

While Zih Amazon Burns

by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Friday, August 30, 2019, 18:26 (81 days ago) @ hromero

:megusta: