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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, August 30, 2019, 13:13 (82 days ago)

Except for the dust-and-sandstorm that preceded it, last night's rainstorm was just what the doctor ordered, though it was all over too soon. Fortunately the part that was a full out deluge didn't last long enough to cause any flooding that I'm aware of, though I understand it was more severe in Petatlán than here. The immediate drop in temperature was practically cause for celebration (need more tequila!) and made for wonderful sleeping weather. Though it kicked up the waves a bit, I don't believe it caused any problems for the pier construction, though it probably affected the visibility today for the divers cleaning up the bottom of the bay.

The streetsweepers and beachsweepers were out cleaning p after the rainstorm, but the beach didn't look too bad at all from what I saw. Not that much garbage washed out of the canal or the lagoon. Mostly small branches and leaves from the high wind damaging the trees. The sea turtle eggs had already been removed from this nest before I found it.
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Two containers were on the beach this morning, and the pilings are lined up and waiting at the very end of the pier waiting to be picked up by a crane and driven into the bay's sediment.
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by hromero ⌂ @, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 11:58 (81 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I hope they will hurry up and do much of that pile driving during the next 2-3 months.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 12:11 (81 days ago) @ hromero

I hope they will hurry up and do much of that pile driving during the next 2-3 months.

I believe once they get the floating platform assembled and unstuck from the sand where it's currently partly submerged, the pile-driving will commence. After watching too many boats get mired in the sand never to resurface, I'm not real certain how they plan to refloat the containers, but I believe the assembled platform jacks up using tall poles attached to it until it floats again. I'm pretty sure these folks know what they're doing.

There will be over 100 pilings to place, so it will have to be round-the-clock pile-driving for months. Oh boy.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 16:42 (80 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Shall we start a pool and make our bets as to when the pier will be complete? We want Semana Santa, but hope we are way off.

We ALL want it finished for the October cruise ships.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 17:29 (80 days ago) @ Talley Ho

You're actually looking forward to see those rusting pollution machines in the bay??

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 17:37 (80 days ago) @ frostbite

Actually, yes.

It is good for future tourism, introducing people to a place where they haven't been before might bring them back.

Yes, they are gross polluters, but NIMBY-not here in this bay.

It's happening, there is nothing I can do about it, so I might as well look at the positive sides.

It's fun to paddle around those huge boats. They really ARE big!

And, we are getting a new pier out of it. It may not be exactly what YOU wanted in the way of a pier, but it is a pier none the less.

I'm ready for the attacks, at least I hope so!

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Saturday, August 31, 2019, 22:09 (80 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Actually, yes.

It is good for future tourism, introducing people to a place where they haven't been before might bring them back.

Yes, they are gross polluters, but NIMBY-not here in this bay.

It's happening, there is nothing I can do about it, so I might as well look at the positive sides.

It's fun to paddle around those huge boats. They really ARE big!

And, we are getting a new pier out of it. It may not be exactly what YOU wanted in the way of a pier, but it is a pier none the less.

I'm ready for the attacks, at least I hope so!

I don't doubt that the occasional cruise ship passengers have fallen in love with the area and decide to return on their own. But, as has been mentioned here before, they are picked up at the pier and bussed to Ixtapa.

Some years ago, Alaska had to write a law forcing cruise ships to dump their waste several miles off shore, because they had been doing so while tied up at the piers. I doubt that such a law exists in Guerrero. While snorkeling in the bay, one day, I recall encountering about 3 feet of toilet paper floating by. Needless to say, I hurried home to take a shower.

I, too, prefer to look at the positives in the area, but cruise ships are not one of them.

I have no problem with a new pier; I just regret that a small, floating dock to make it easier to get on and off the pangas, does not appear to be included.

The above is intended as a response, not an attack.

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Disgusting Grossness

by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Sunday, September 01, 2019, 09:49 (80 days ago) @ frostbite

We are on the beach on Playa la Ropa literally every day, year around. We swim with our dogs daily and almost always paddle the bay too.

The water can get obscenely disgusting in the winter when all the sailboats are in. Many of them, maybe even most of them go outside the bay regularly to empty their tanks.

There is at least one, and some years two that anchor off of Playa la Ropa and don't move for several months.

While we never see toilet paper, there is very often a surface coating of what appears to be fecal matter all around The Links and the area along the path to Las Gatas.

TOTALLY GROSS!!!!!

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, September 01, 2019, 10:04 (80 days ago) @ Talley Ho

We are on the beach on Playa la Ropa literally every day, year around. We swim with our dogs daily and almost always paddle the bay too.

The water can get obscenely disgusting in the winter when all the sailboats are in. Many of them, maybe even most of them go outside the bay regularly to empty their tanks.

There is at least one, and some years two that anchor off of Playa la Ropa and don't move for several months.

While we never see toilet paper, there is very often a surface coating of what appears to be fecal matter all around The Links and the area along the path to Las Gatas.

TOTALLY GROSS!!!!!

Please denounce them to the Capitanía del Puerto at the pier. Photos would help, but your first-hand account should carry enough weight for them to make an official visit to the vessel. That should be enough to remedy that particular problem.

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by Finn, Sunday, September 01, 2019, 10:47 (80 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

The amount of fuel that a cruise ship requires is unreal. When you factor in the main engines and the generators the average ship burns 1 gallon per every 3 feet traveled.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Sunday, September 01, 2019, 12:07 (80 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We definitely will-will pictures too!

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Sunday, September 01, 2019, 12:00 (80 days ago) @ Talley Ho

When we first built our house, around 20 years ago, there used to be many more yachts in the bay. These days, there are far fewer - good for water quality, not so much for the local businesses. From our vantage point atop La Madera, I very rarely see one leave - presumably to empty their tank - and then return.

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by rdcosta @, Sunday, September 01, 2019, 18:15 (79 days ago) @ frostbite

We went on a cruise after 9/11 and after one of our group talked to the captain we were granted a full tour of the ship from the wheel house to the engine room. We were shown a state of the art sewage treatment plant on board and were told by our guide that no untreated sewage was released into the ocean, and if they did and were caught they could potentially risk losing the ship. He also showed us where the desalination department was and told us the amount of sea water that was treated per hour.
We could only take him at his word but everything he said sounded legitimate and as we were a group of Sewer and water contractors and plumbers there were a number of people that worked in the sewage treatment field and they were satisfied that what he was saying was true. I am sure that there are regulations for these and in fact all modern vessels that regulate them
Just my two pesos worth but I believed what we were told and he had all the facts an figures to back it up

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Sunday, September 01, 2019, 18:29 (79 days ago) @ rdcosta

:megusta:

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Reduced Yachts in the Bay

by Curly! @, Great Pacific Northwet, Tuesday, September 03, 2019, 10:40 (78 days ago) @ frostbite

I wonder how much the reduced cruisers has to do with Rick being deported. My sister in law is much into the Mexican west coast sailing crowd, lives on her boat year round in La Paz, and sails up and down the Mexican and US coasts each year. Occasionally she will head out to Hawaii or Fiji. She used to lay over in Zihuatanejo before she'd head out. She sent me an article from a sailing magazine, when Rick lost his place, and it basically said to boycott Zihuatanejo. I have no idea why Rick had to leave, and don't really care, I'm sure there were good reasons, but he did have a loyal following of sailors that may have left with him.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Tuesday, September 03, 2019, 13:32 (78 days ago) @ Curly!

The story I heard was that he was deported for working without a permit.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, September 03, 2019, 14:06 (78 days ago) @ frostbite

The story I heard was that he was deported for working without a permit.

That's a very superficial story. It goes much deeper, but let's just leave it at that. He was a good guy but he had some bad moments. Like anywhere in the world, except perhaps the current USA, you can usually get along by playing the game and knowing when to lay low. He had a lapsus brutus. A reminder for all to choose your battles with care.

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by Quadra Paul @, Tuesday, September 03, 2019, 21:17 (77 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

"Lapsus Brutus" Is that like a brain fart?

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by CountryDancer @, Vancouver, Washington, Sunday, September 01, 2019, 20:08 (79 days ago) @ frostbite

"I don't doubt that the occasional cruise ship passengers have fallen in love with the area and decide to return on their own. But, as has been mentioned here before, they are picked up at the pier and bussed to Ixtapa."

I am one of those who was introduced to Zihuatanejo via a NCL Cruise back in 2007. I've been visiting nearly annually since then. I've introduced several friends to "my favorite place in the world". I always stay on Playa La Ropa, I often take the bus in to town to shop or have a meal. Usually take a cab back to the hotel.

I've never been to Ixtapa, just doesn't seem like my kind of place.

I've gone to Barra De Potosi on every visit (taking a boat ride and having a meal); visited Refugio De Potosi several times and taken the bus to Los Achotes to tour the museum at Soledad De Maciel; I visited Petatlan on one of my early visits. A friend who lives a few hours from Zihuatanejo has come to visit and we've been able to meet one of the family's that make roof tiles.... looks easier than it is.

My husband and I had strongly considered moving to the area, but he passed away in May due to several Agent Orange related illnesses (Vietnam Veteran). He'd been ill for several years, his last visit to Zihuatanejo was in 2014.

Me, I'm headed down in December.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Sunday, September 01, 2019, 21:00 (79 days ago) @ CountryDancer

Move here, it's paradise.

Incredibly sorry about your loss and the causes.

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by Helene @, Zih, Monday, September 02, 2019, 09:55 (79 days ago) @ CountryDancer

So sorry for your loss. I have a good friend whose husband developed Alzheimers from being exposed to Agent Orange. He was a Doctor in Viet nam. He is still alive but basically a vegtable. She has sued the Govenrment and they do pay for all his care. I lost my husband from Alzheimers almost 4 years ago. I am still coming down to Zih every year. I will do it until I can't anymore.

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by Curly! @, Great Pacific Northwet, Tuesday, September 03, 2019, 10:46 (78 days ago) @ CountryDancer

Ha! I was going to bring you up as an example but had already made my Rick post and I hate to be taking up too much bandwidth. Still sorry about Vern, he was a great guy and an even better vocalist. I wish I had gotten to know him better.

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by CountryDancer @, Vancouver, Washington, Wednesday, September 04, 2019, 22:50 (76 days ago) @ Curly!

Thank you Curly.
I was amazed at the huge turnout of musicians at his Celebration of Life.

A couple players have talked about having an annual event (in Vern's name) so the musicians get to see each other and visit and play - without it being due to a loss of another player

Vern Collins - "Wind Beneath My Wings"

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