Burning vehicles again near Petatlán

by JACK @, Friday, November 08, 2019, 09:07 (12 days ago)

Burning vehicles again near Petatlán

by midalake @, Friday, November 08, 2019, 09:16 (12 days ago) @ JACK

Marshmallows, anyone? :devil:

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, November 08, 2019, 09:46 (12 days ago) @ JACK

It’s all over, Jack. The road is open again.

Do you even know what their beef is? They want the Policía Estatal to leave the region so they can cultivate their poppies in peace. Another symptom. Not the problem. The problem remains the failed laws and policies that empower organized criminals seeking to supply U.S. consumers. Like I said elsewhere recently, we all know why there are cartels and where their money and firearms come from.

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by JACK @, Friday, November 08, 2019, 11:05 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

It’s all over, Jack. The road is open again.

Do you even know what their beef is? They want the Policía Estatal to leave the region so they can cultivate their poppies in peace. Another symptom. Not the problem. The problem remains the failed laws and policies that empower organized criminals seeking to supply U.S. consumers. Like I said elsewhere recently, we all know why there are cartels and where their money and firearms come from.

My point was to alert anyone planning on heading south. Glad it's over.

You ask: "Do you even know what their beef is?" I can read the papers as well as you, be it in English, Spanish or French. I also live here so I am as close as you are to the situation. I also travel to Petatlán, Lázaro Cárdenas and other places often to visit friends or other reasons. If I had planned to be heading to Petatlán today I would have been glad that someone would have given me a heads up.

The newspapers here report nothing...burying your head in the sand does nothing good for anybody.

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by zulualpha, Friday, November 08, 2019, 15:59 (12 days ago) @ JACK

You are right, Jack, that the blacking-out by local news outlets of stories like this one serves zero purpose. Details of this incident, including video clips, were all over Facebook minutes after it occurred.

Information sources/outlets engaged in censorship or sanitizing of news reports risk losing credibility, and thus usefulness.
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Award-winning Mexican journalist Léon Krauze sometimes writes on Mexico´s struggle with drugs, and most recently (Nov. 5th) had a good piece in the Washington Post on Guerrero´s opium poppy dilema.

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by Casa Juan @, Friday, November 08, 2019, 12:52 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I question whether growing poppies would be a reason with the prices collapsing due to cheaper and more powerful synthetics being widely available

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Friday, November 08, 2019, 13:41 (12 days ago) @ Casa Juan

It's for the vegan junkies!

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by mexicoman @, Zihuatanejo, Friday, November 08, 2019, 16:28 (12 days ago) @ frostbite

:megusta: :dude:

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by mcnuttja, Monday, November 11, 2019, 16:46 (9 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob, while I understand the current situation has a large bearing upon the US, this is not a US only issue. If I am not mistaken, Mexico has a rich, lengthy and deep history of corruption.

Your cartel issue has reached into the "local" economy and into the local population. To the point that your local Cab/Taxi drivers are shaken-down regularly. Over my last 15 years of visits I have made some local friends. One being a Taxi driver and have heard the tales first hand.

Is Mexico more or less safe than the US? I don't think so. And I will continue to visit.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, November 11, 2019, 17:52 (8 days ago) @ mcnuttja

Rob, while I understand the current situation has a large bearing upon the US, this is not a US only issue. If I am not mistaken, Mexico has a rich, lengthy and deep history of corruption.

Your cartel issue has reached into the "local" economy and into the local population. To the point that your local Cab/Taxi drivers are shaken-down regularly. Over my last 15 years of visits I have made some local friends. One being a Taxi driver and have heard the tales first hand.

Is Mexico more or less safe than the US? I don't think so. And I will continue to visit.

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Really? You've got The Chump in the White House and you want to tell me about how corrupt Mexico is? R U 4 real?

Cartels in Zihuatanejo? Not exactly. Lázaro is their big prize on this coast. We're just one of the scraps for the junkyard dogs. As long as we keep supplying passing vessels in the night with fuel there's nothing for them to fight over here.

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by Ironwood, Monday, November 11, 2019, 18:37 (8 days ago) @ mcnuttja

..... Is Mexico more or less safe than the US? I don't think so.

I'm confused. Which is it?