Exit Tax

by Ottawa Joe, Monday, January 06, 2020, 17:40 (86 days ago)

Is there still an exit tax when leaving Mexico?? One site said as much as 1150 Pesos yet the front desk where we are staying said that all airlines must build it into the price of their fare. I like the second answer but have found people like to tell you what you want to hear. Could someone enlighten me on the subject so my daughter doesn't get stranded on Thursday.

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by Skink, Monday, January 06, 2020, 18:56 (86 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

It's built into the cost of the flight....no worries...only place I had to pay an exit tax was Costa Rica

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by Casa Juan @, Monday, January 06, 2020, 20:11 (86 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

If you fly into Mexico from US , the Mexican Tourism tax is built into the fee structure when you purchase a ticket. Mine in Oct 19 was approx. $27 USD, with a permanent residency the tax is supposed to be refunded by the airline but they drag they feet unless you bird dog them about it. For me $27 is not exactly chump change.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, January 06, 2020, 20:55 (86 days ago) @ Casa Juan

He had to fly back to the US twice in February last year. I e-mailed Alaska, they told me what they wanted(a photo of the permanent residency card and the reservation number) and both times they refunded the price of the visa before the flights were taken, but had been paid for. Easy peesy.

No I didn't save the e mail address, we have no plans to return to the US at this time.

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by Ottawa Joe, Monday, January 06, 2020, 21:58 (86 days ago) @ Talley Ho

I guess that I should assume it is the same from Canada I wouldn't want to think the US is getting special treatment.

Oh wait we did make Mexicans get a visa to visit Canada a few years ago. :-]

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by Gregorio M. @, Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 09:40 (85 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

Yes - same policy for Canadians. In the cost of your ticket.

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by Ottawa Joe, Wednesday, January 08, 2020, 12:04 (84 days ago) @ Gregorio M.

Yes - same policy for Canadians. In the cost of your ticket.

Should I assume that this also includes the Charter operators like Sun Wing? I have a hard time trusting an airline that takes off in Toronto en route to Cabo via Zihua but stops in Windsor to refuel not to pick up any passengers. Like how is that economical or practical or was it a safety issue? This was my daughters flight down. They were so low they had to send a second tanker out to the plane delaying the flight 45 minutes. She is pretty hot under the collar about this so if there is any problem tomorrow at this end it could be a big flash point for her and I will be in Mexico city on route to Oaxaca by then.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Wednesday, January 08, 2020, 13:12 (84 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

All airlines collect these fees as part of their ticket prices.

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by jay @, Wednesday, January 08, 2020, 16:01 (84 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

If the plane took on that much fuel in Windsor, they probably planned to stop there anyway. Planes don't like to land with full tanks - it adds 20-30 tons (tonnes in Canada?), adds considerably to the landing distance, and puts a lot more stress on the wheels, brakes and wheel carriages. Doable but certainly riskier than landing with empty tanks. So they probably only put in enough fuel in Toronto to reach Windsor and then topped off the tanks there. Now why they went to Windsor in the first place I don't know. My guess is that they needed to swap out a pilot, but that's only a guess. Nothing else comes to mind.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Wednesday, January 08, 2020, 18:20 (84 days ago) @ jay

Other possibilities: the crew didn't order fuel, or they ordered, but it wasn't delivered and they didn't check fuel level before departure. Enroute they noticed the inadequate level and made an unplanned stop to get more.

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by jay @, Wednesday, January 08, 2020, 19:44 (84 days ago) @ frostbite

Other possibilities: the crew didn't order fuel, or they ordered, but it wasn't delivered and they didn't check fuel level before departure. Enroute they noticed the inadequate level and made an unplanned stop to get more.

Yeah, but that seems highly unlikely. Pilots are obsessive about fuel loads, and cockpit culture nowadays means that everything is crosschecked between themselves and check lists. A big part of their preflight preparation is in calculating fuel loads. And, in any case, a pilot making such an egregious error not only wouldn't be allowed to continue his flight but would be out of work by lunchtime. Things like that just don't happen.

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by Ottawa Joe, Wednesday, January 08, 2020, 23:04 (84 days ago) @ jay

A buddie, former AC pilot with whom we have travelled often twice to Z said it probably was something planned. that said sucks for the passengers and even the staff who seemed to have no idea about the diversion.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Thursday, January 09, 2020, 13:06 (83 days ago) @ jay

Other possibilities: the crew didn't order fuel, or they ordered, but it wasn't delivered and they didn't check fuel level before departure. Enroute they noticed the inadequate level and made an unplanned stop to get more.

Things like that just don't happen.

Well, unfortunately, they do. I used to fly with a guy in Alaska who moved to the Lower 48 and got a job with one of the big airlines. They took off one day, apparently without checking the fuel level. Enroute they discovered their mistake and made an un-scheduled landing to get more. Needless to say, he got canned.

On a somewhat similar note: When I decided to get a private pilot's license, back in 1970, I drove to Oakland to take advantage of the advertised $5.00! introductory lesson. The owner of the outfit lived in the Sierra foothills and commuted to work in one of the Citabrias. We hopped in and headed for the Oakland hills. We had barely left the traffic pattern, when the engine quit, due to no fuel. We landed in the Oakland colosseum parking lot, coasting to a spot by a bank of payphones. Bob called for the ramp boy to bring a couple of cans of gas. Refueled and took off, just as 3 cop cars, with lights flashing, roared into the parking lot. Upon our return to Oakland, Bob said: "I guess I shouldn't charge you for the flight"? I appreciated the freebie and signed up for lessons. Over time, I got my commercial, IFR, multi-engine and Air Transport Pilot ratings and got a job flying in Alaska.

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by Quadra Paul @, Thursday, January 09, 2020, 21:24 (83 days ago) @ frostbite

Then you must have heard the story of the famous bush pilot from the Yukon. One day, while in the air, he spotted a buddy driving his 5 ton flatbed truck down the highway. Just for a laugh he landed his plane on the flatbed, touched his wheels and left! His buddy had to do a clothing change when he got to his destination!

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by Ironwood @, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 09:55 (85 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

I guess that I should assume it is the same from Canada I wouldn't want to think the US is getting special treatment.

Oh wait we did make Mexicans get a visa to visit Canada a few years ago. :-]

Yes, the not-lamented Harper Conservative government. Reversed by Justin Trudeau's Liberals.

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by Casa Juan @, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 12:45 (85 days ago) @ Talley Ho

just spent 15 minutes waiting then talking to AK Air customer care and no one knows the email address for the section that would deal with refunds of tourist tax. Not easy !

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by Sandy feet @, Seattle, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 13:00 (85 days ago) @ Casa Juan

Try: refunds@alaskaair.com

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 13:01 (85 days ago) @ Casa Juan

E-mail them! I don't call anyone!

You have up to a year to get the visa fee refunded, so you may be eligible for more than one refund.

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by mosesk @, Ojai, CA, USA, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 13:23 (85 days ago) @ Talley Ho

E-mail them! I don't call anyone!

You have up to a year to get the visa fee refunded, so you may be eligible for more than one refund.

My attempt to email them recently did not work.
If I recall correctly I either got a personal or a standard form back directing me to the website:

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/before-your-trip/mexico-tourism-tax

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 09:54 (85 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

I was under the impression that there only was a tourist tax included in the ticket price, which can be refunded upon request by permanent residents.

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by Scott, Playa del Carmen, Quintana Roo, Mexico, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 17:51 (85 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

Generally it's true that it is included in the taxes when you purchase your airline ticket. Especially for regularly scheduled flights from Canada & USA. But if you enter by land and don't pay it then, or while in the country, and then try to fly out, you'll have to pay. Sometimes if you leave by land or boat, they'll request proof that you paid. If you arrived by air you'd have to show them your full receipt for the airline ticket as proof. Sometimes charter airlines don't include it in the ticket price.

But generally speaking, flying in from Canada or USA and flying out, you're unlikely to have to pay anything when leaving.

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by Casa Juan @, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 20:06 (85 days ago) @ Scott

For Alaska Air the email address to get started to get a refund of the Mexican Tourism Tax collected when you made your reservation is refunds@alaskaair.com you will need your ticket #/confirmation code. This is for Mexican residents or permanent residents. Don't know if it covers other long term Mexican visas.

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by Sandy feet @, Seattle, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 20:44 (85 days ago) @ Casa Juan

:thumb:

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by wisconsinjuan @, Tuesday, January 07, 2020, 20:10 (85 days ago) @ Ottawa Joe

There is this neat new thing called "google". Type in "Alaska air exit tax refund"-amazing

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by B&S @, Wednesday, January 08, 2020, 09:23 (84 days ago) @ wisconsinjuan

When we flew back the Alaska check in guy at LAX noticed our little adhesive packet in our passport where we carriy our RP visa. He had us fill out a refund form right there. Nice.

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by Casa Juan @, Wednesday, January 08, 2020, 11:10 (84 days ago) @ B&S

you were close to the border, try doing it almost 4000 miles away at the other end of Alaska's network. They don't have a way to do it using a computer, data has to be entered manually on a triplicate carbon form from the '70's.