Cinco de Mayo

by islandgirl @, Cowichan Valley, Monday, May 04, 2020, 23:54 (31 days ago)

I'm planning something special for dinner tomorrow. What are you doing to mark the occasion?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 01:07 (31 days ago) @ islandgirl

I'm planning something special for dinner tomorrow. What are you doing to mark the occasion?

It’s generally not a big deal here. Not even a holiday. ¡Viva Ignacio Zaragoza! ¡Viva Porfirio Díaz! ¡Viva la Libertad! :vivamexico:

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by islandgirl @, Cowichan Valley, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 09:08 (31 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Under lock down, every little thing is worth celebrating. Besides, I want to see just how this gets turned into a political discussion!

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by zulualpha, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 11:34 (31 days ago) @ islandgirl

Well, now, let´s see. How can we make this political?

May 5th celebrates the victory of the Mexican Army over the French Army in a single battle, in a war that Mexico subsequently lost.

I´d bet 50 pesos that most Mexicans don´t know those two facts -- battle won, war lost. Nor do they understand what the French were doing in Mexico in the first place.

It´s not that Mexicans weren´t taught their history. It´s more that they are indifferent to remembering it; they are complacent.

In the same way, Americans pay little attention to their history. So they keep screwing up, at home, and abroad. They blew up Vietnam to no purpose. Ditto Iraq. They scrap over the idea of universal health care, while flunking out in math and science (Pew Research). They thought political ideology -- faith -- could stare down the corona virus. Who´s winning that war?

It goes on....

There, we tried to get politics into your post. How´d we do?

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 11:55 (31 days ago) @ zulualpha
edited by Talley Ho, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 13:13

My dog Zihuatl was born in Puebla. She knows very little about the history of Cinco de Mayo, but she only spent her first 6 weeks of life there.

She knows a tremendous amount about Zihuatanejo, and is very quickly forgetting everything she ever knew about California.

She and her sister had a tostada as a treat this morning.

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by tadpole1 @, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 14:39 (31 days ago) @ zulualpha

You forgot to blame Trump for all of this!

Mexoco lost?

by Oeste Hermoso @, Zihuatanejo, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 15:48 (31 days ago) @ zulualpha

They shot the French faux emperor. No country has attempted to conquer Mexico since it won the war against France. :vivamexico:

Mexoco lost?

by zulualpha, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 16:15 (31 days ago) @ Oeste Hermoso

Emperor Maximillian (not a Frenchman, but a member of the Austro-Hungarian Hapsburg dynasty) was installed by the French as supreme ruler in Mexico after the French were (temporarily) defeated at Puebla on this date, 1863. Benito Juarez was forced into exile in New Orleans by subsequent French victories after Puebla. From there, Juarez orchestrated Maximillian´s eventual overthrow and execution in 1866.

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Mexico was invaded twice by the USA during the 1910-17 Mexican Revolution, first occupying Mexico City in 1914. Then, in 1916, "Black Jack" Pershing invaded Mexico in an unsuccessful pursuit of Pancho Villa.

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by Ironwood @, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 18:50 (31 days ago) @ zulualpha

Well, now, let´s see. How can we make this political?

May 5th celebrates the victory of the Mexican Army over the French Army in a single battle, in a war that Mexico subsequently lost.

I´d bet 50 pesos that most Mexicans don´t know those two facts -- battle won, war lost. Nor do they understand what the French were doing in Mexico in the first place.

It´s not that Mexicans weren´t taught their history. It´s more that they are indifferent to remembering it; they are complacent.

In the same way, Americans pay little attention to their history. So they keep screwing up, at home, and abroad. They blew up Vietnam to no purpose. Ditto Iraq. They scrap over the idea of universal health care, while flunking out in math and science (Pew Research). They thought political ideology -- faith -- could stare down the corona virus. Who´s winning that war?

It goes on....

There, we tried to get politics into your post. How´d we do?

Author Paul Theroux, writing in "The Old Patagonian Express", might offer some insight into why Mexico doesn't celebrate a military victory:

"I walked a mile to the Castle of San Juan de Ulua……The castle contains a permanent exhibit of Veracruz’s past – a pictorial record of invasions, punitive missions, and local military defeats. It was that most Mexican of enthusiasms – humiliation as history. If the engravings and old photographs showed how cynical and aggressive other countries – but mainly the United States – had been toward Mexico, the prominence of the exhibit in Veracruz invited the Mexican to a morning of wound licking and self-contempt. Veracruz is known as “the heroic city.” It is a poignant description: in Mexico a hero is nearly always a corpse.”

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by zulualpha, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 19:10 (31 days ago) @ Ironwood

Love the way that guy writes! If Theroux were a blues guitar player, that passage you quote would be considered one of the best solos he ever played.

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by Paulf @, Mount Sterling, Ky 40353, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 11:32 (31 days ago) @ islandgirl

Since we can't be in Mexico, there is a Mexican Restaurant about 5 minutes by car that we will be ordering food from. Before we went there after Church on Sunday when we had a taste for Mexican food. Since eat in is not allowed we normally order about 1 time a week.

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by islandgirl @, Cowichan Valley, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 12:03 (31 days ago) @ Paulf

That sounds good! I have to make whatever I decide on. My town doesn't have any Mexican restaurants, not even a taco joint! Victoria has some great restaurants and there are some food trucks run by folks from PV that I really enjoy.

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by Paulf @, Mount Sterling, Ky 40353, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 15:27 (31 days ago) @ islandgirl

We live in a county of 15,000 and city of 5,000 and we have 3 large Mexican Restaurants in our little town, The one closest to us is the best- of course the taste is totally different than Mexico- oh what I would give to have Chili Rellenos at Any's( our first stop after checking in at our hotel and head to get a great lunch). The funny thing we have no family restaurants. The closest would be Cracker Barrel a chain that is usually along the Interstate in some areas of the country- a lot of small chain but no family owned.

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by nicatnit, Wednesday, May 13, 2020, 06:29 (23 days ago) @ Paulf

Yesterday I was able to go to my favorite Mexican restaurant and sit down and eat a meal prepared for me and boy was it GLORIOUS! I was the only customer and I received the royal treatment. The experience left me longing to return to Zihua as soon as it is possible. Indiana is finally coming out of its coma. Michigan not so much. I live near the border. Feels like the DMZ.

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by Craig AKA the cruise ship guy @, Tuesday, May 05, 2020, 22:06 (31 days ago) @ islandgirl

We are celebrating with Chinese food, bat kung pow!

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by nicatnit, Wednesday, May 13, 2020, 06:32 (23 days ago) @ Craig AKA the cruise ship guy

Is tha the one on the menu that says Covid-19 Special?