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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 12, 2020, 21:03 (21 days ago)


https://youtu.be/LEqw7PfHMVU

Unfortunately part of Playa La Ropa received its certification today meaning no more pets on the beach. It was bad enough that people witnessed city workers kicking and abusing a pack of street dogs that was roaming the beach the other day. Violating state laws in the process. But now a line has been crossed that I will never be in agreement with. Unaccompanied street dogs are one thing to ban. Pets are part of the family. And this rule is like a big flashing sign telling families with pets to look for another vacation destination. A terrible message at absolutely the worst time in the life of Zihuatanejo's tourism. It is not a popular idea with most residents and business owners. We had a meeting several years back, and only 2 or 3 people were for banning pets from the beach. Nothing has changed since then except the city government. Oh yeah, and the pandemia closing our tourism business entirely. We should be WELCOMING tourists, not chasing them away.

Got another lovely little rain last evening. Little green shoots and leaves are appearing everywhere. The hillsides are changing color. Like the puppy dog said when it got its tail caught in the door, it won't be long now. ;-)

Still working though not everyone everyday.
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by allen @, Pacific Northwest, Friday, June 12, 2020, 23:50 (21 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Sounds like it is time for some civil disobedience.

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by PHIL @, Trinity, NC, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 06:54 (20 days ago) @ allen

It won`t be long now also refers to the long tail tom cat in the room full of rockers!

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 09:09 (20 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Part of what is really sad is that the Catalina is a dog friendly hotel, and now it's in the "blue flag zone" where pets are not allowed.

Did anyone check with them????

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by Beachdreamer @, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 11:41 (20 days ago) @ Talley Ho

What about hygiene? What people who are uncomfortable around dogs? Rabies?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 12:19 (20 days ago) @ Beachdreamer

What about hygiene? What people who are uncomfortable around dogs? Rabies?

You probably shouldn't come to Mexico if hygiene is an issue. Rabies? Are you friggin' kidding me? The beach is full of all kinds of excrement from birds, crabs, fish and other critters that live near the beach. Never mind irresponsible humans who are by far te biggest polluters on any beach.

We're talking about people's pets. Not street dogs.

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by Lilyana @, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 14:30 (20 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Perfecto Rob!

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by rojo, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 16:38 (20 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I have 2 families friends that say if La Ropa wont allow their dogs on the beach they are going to cancel and try some other area that is more friendly. Is this being brought in cause of the guy at La Perla doesnt want dogs on the beach. He was the leading force to stop the dogs a few years ago. With this new ruling along with the virus scare, I dont think the tourist related business are going to do too good

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 16:51 (20 days ago) @ rojo

The first year of the Playa la Ropa blue flag s=it is only between the new artisans alley between Villa Mexicana and The Thompson north to the end, Casa que Canta.

We don't see how they can certify the rest of the beach because part of the process requires (as I read it) no glass-think El Pirata, La Perla and others, on the sand and no animals including feral dogs. Right now there are a couple of good sized packs that are on the beach at least daily.

It will be interesting to see how the Sotovento Beach Club handles beer bottles as well as Patty's and the rental chairs north of La Cantinita. Hopefully it won't work and they will report it so that the flag can be taken down.

We moved here permanently thinking we could keep the blue flag away. We can't apply for citizenship for 15 more months, then it takes up to one year. THEN we can protest and try to prevent this from going further.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 18:34 (20 days ago) @ Talley Ho

The first year of the Playa la Ropa blue flag s=it is only between the new artisans alley between Villa Mexicana and The Thompson north to the end, Casa que Canta.

We don't see how they can certify the rest of the beach because part of the process requires (as I read it) no glass-think El Pirata, La Perla and others, on the sand and no animals including feral dogs. Right now there are a couple of good sized packs that are on the beach at least daily.

It will be interesting to see how the Sotovento Beach Club handles beer bottles as well as Patty's and the rental chairs north of La Cantinita. Hopefully it won't work and they will report it so that the flag can be taken down.

We moved here permanently thinking we could keep the blue flag away. We can't apply for citizenship for 15 more months, then it takes up to one year. THEN we can protest and try to prevent this from going further.

This is a civic matter, not political. You pay taxes, own property, are a legal resident, and after being extorted by the Ecología office they owe you big time. You have a valid voice. I urge you to use it.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 18:43 (20 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Just direct us maestro! We are here forever, dogs and all!

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by Keytime, Sunday, June 14, 2020, 21:26 (19 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

:megusta: Rules in Mexico are purely a suggestion. Very obvious when it comes to noise, guns, drugs, etc. A pet on the beach on a leash before 9am by a tourist or responsible citizen, is not breaking the law. Maybe this next winter I will coordinate a Dog Walk and get 100 people to show up at the same time on La Ropa and do a demonstration walk for FREEDOM! WOOF WOOF....

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, June 14, 2020, 23:03 (19 days ago) @ Keytime

:megusta: Rules in Mexico are purely a suggestion. Very obvious when it comes to noise, guns, drugs, etc. A pet on the beach on a leash before 9am by a tourist or responsible citizen, is not breaking the law. Maybe this next winter I will coordinate a Dog Walk and get 100 people to show up at the same time on La Ropa and do a demonstration walk for FREEDOM! WOOF WOOF....

I would gladly accompany you and even carry the poop bags, which I would not hesitate to defend myself with at the first sign of repression of my constitutional rights as a proud but indignant naturalized citizen whose patrimony is being hurt.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 18:49 (20 days ago) @ rojo

I have 2 families friends that say if La Ropa wont allow their dogs on the beach they are going to cancel and try some other area that is more friendly. Is this being brought in cause of the guy at La Perla doesnt want dogs on the beach. He was the leading force to stop the dogs a few years ago. With this new ruling along with the virus scare, I dont think the tourist related business are going to do too good

Francisco of La Perla and Carlos of Casa del Mar as well as the wife of the mayor are the major proponents of this as far as I can tell. Since the mayor doesn't live off of tourism he see the funds allocated for the certification as a means of paying off political favors and nothing more. Apparently no one seems to care that the certification attracts not one single tourist, but I'm surprised that they don't care that it causes us to lose tourists. I still have letters from people who sold their properties and moved away from Ixtapa and others who stopped going to Ixtapa, some coming to Zihuatanejo instead, when Ixtapa's beach was certified and pets banned.

I can't rally the citizens of Zihuatanejo by myself, and too many people don't want to speak up, so little by little we keep losing in these matters that really have no popular backing, simply politicians doing what's convenient for them. I simply don't have the means or the time to dedicate myself to such things as some people do. The current government wants to renege on a promise made by a previous one, and some of the people needed to fight this battle such as Doña Eva of the Catalina are simply unable to take up the cause. I'd love to see some young people who care take up this cause, but they seem to not have the sense of civic duty, discipline or moral convictions necessary.

"Everyone likes to complain about the weather but no one wants to do anything about it."

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 18:55 (20 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

:megusta:

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Saturday, June 13, 2020, 12:40 (20 days ago) @ Beachdreamer

You really shouldn't come here.


The Catalina is a nice hotel and not inexpensive. People who care enough to bring their pets along on a vacation to a location like that take better care of their pets than most people do of their children.

Kids poop and pee in the water. Their parents regularly leave gross diapers around.

If these pampered pets poop the owners bag it up and dispose of it properly.

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by moonbird1 @, Sunday, June 14, 2020, 10:34 (19 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Instead of banning pets the city needs to do something about these packs of feral dogs that are on the beach. No city that I have ever lived in(and I have lived in 4 different countries)allows packs of dogs to roam the town. Now, well meaning people have taken it apon themsilves to put feeders for these dogs on the beach as well as elsewhere all over town. I am surprised that the authorities are not putting a stop to this. We should have a healthier rat population after all of this is over too.

No street dogs!

by Sunset View @, Sunday, June 14, 2020, 13:02 (19 days ago) @ moonbird1

Agree completely! I love to walk around and have been bitten by a dog. Very uncomfortable walking around and seeing dogs with NO visible owners.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Sunday, June 14, 2020, 13:17 (19 days ago) @ Sunset View

Supposedly most of the dogs are "owned."

Time to raise a bunch of money for SPAZ and get the females spayed. Catch them, sterilize them, break the cycle.

We'll help.

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by Quadra Paul @, Sunday, June 14, 2020, 14:43 (19 days ago) @ Talley Ho

:megusta:

Fix the street dogs!

by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Sunday, June 14, 2020, 16:33 (19 days ago) @ Talley Ho
edited by Susan G, Sunday, June 14, 2020, 17:00

A volunteer group is working with restaurant owners to identify and sterilize the street dogs and cats in Playa Las Gatas. Part of the group is Zihua's city government animal welfare rep & Surfers for Strays rep. We are setting up a 2-day surgery location in Las Gatas in which SPAZ will also contribute medications and accept some adoptables in Casa Marina.

More to come...

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by Leemr @, Sunday, June 14, 2020, 21:35 (19 days ago) @ Talley Ho

SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER.

Fix the street dogs!

by Casa Juan @, Monday, June 15, 2020, 00:17 (19 days ago) @ Talley Ho

living seasonally in a Mexican neighborhood I can tell you from almost 8 years 0f experience your good intentions will be for naught unless you can educate the population that uncontrolled breeding of dogs( some do it for the pesos) will lead to further environmental degradation. Many believe "their" dog is less of a dog if neutered. The strays will just immigrate down from the hillside colonias.

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by allen @, Pacific Northwest, Monday, June 15, 2020, 02:53 (18 days ago) @ Casa Juan

How can there be money in dogs when they cannot even give them away? Your argument is faulty. I will buy the "less of a dog part though".

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by Tere @, Monday, June 15, 2020, 08:50 (18 days ago) @ Casa Juan

Casa Juan is correct. Where do you think the stray beach dogs come from? Yep - the surrounding neighborhoods.

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by moonbird1 @, Monday, June 15, 2020, 09:33 (18 days ago) @ Tere

yes, especially now that feeders have been set up for them

No street dogs!

by peter knows better, Monday, June 15, 2020, 13:36 (18 days ago) @ Sunset View

I have been almost everywhere in Mexico and have never encountered an area that did not have street dogs.

You may want to look at Spain or Italy for your next Vacation spot.

Personally, I think it's odd to travel to a foreign country and try and dictate to them. I mean, if everything were like it was back home, why would we go there.

I have always marveled at how poor people are so tolerant of homeless animals. Hate to say it, but these dirt poor Mexicans treat homeless animals better than we treat homeless people.

No street dogs!

by Quadra Paul @, Monday, June 15, 2020, 14:29 (18 days ago) @ peter knows better

Not Really! Talk to the people who do pet rescues here! SPAZ, Surfers for Strays, Barra de Potosi pet rescue, etc etc!

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, June 15, 2020, 15:36 (18 days ago) @ peter knows better

Personally, I think it's odd to travel to a foreign country and try and dictate to them. I mean, if everything were like it was back home, why would we go there.

The local government is who changed the rules, ignoring agreements already made and basically telling residents and visitors with pets, many who are longtime visitors if not also property owners, que vayan a la chingada.

No street dogs!

by MN-ExPat, Wednesday, June 17, 2020, 13:22 (16 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

YES to neutering. And YES I like the street dogs. 2 weeks ago I drove out to Playa LA Ropa around 2300 hours. There was a group of 15 dogs lounging in the sand behind Rossys. They were nearly identical in appearance except for age/size. Gotta love that family.

No street dogs!

by Charlybby, Monday, June 15, 2020, 22:29 (18 days ago) @ peter knows better

:megusta: