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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, June 25, 2020, 19:52 (12 days ago)


https://youtu.be/x2NNBXKLLtk

98 persons total have been confirmed infected with the Covid-19 virus in Zihuatanejo as of today. 13 deaths have been confirmed from the virus, too.

The Gobernador de Guerrero Hector Astudillo announced today that beaches will reopen on July 1st and limited tourism activity will also begin, meaning guest lodgings and restaurants will follow strict health safety practices. This is excellent news for us though we all realize the great challenge it puts before us. Nevertheless, I'm confident the lodging and restaurant industry will meet the challenge. We don't want our businesses to close back up.

Last night was a perfect night for sleeping, not quite cool enough for having to pull the sheets up and over me, but close. Kept the fan on low and enjoyed the gentle sound of the surf. This morning well after sunrise it started sprinkling, and it's been doing so on and off most of the day and continues. The air smells fragrant and clean, and the hills are now a deep green. Ahhhh! Mt favorite time of year. But it looks like we might not be dancing on the rooftop tonight if it continues. I'm sure we'll figure something out. We've really grown used to enjoying quiet evenings on our rooftop listening to our music instead of the thumping numerous rude bars and all the noisy drunks in their cars.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, June 25, 2020, 20:43 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We are already singing and dancing.

After not being able to paddle since April 3, do you think we will still be able to stay on our boards????

Can't wait to find out!!!!!!!!!!!

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:13 (12 days ago) @ Talley Ho

We are already singing and dancing.

After not being able to paddle since April 3, do you think we will still be able to stay on our boards????

Can't wait to find out!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget your water wings!

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Friday, June 26, 2020, 00:13 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

In Washington, they look at the two week daily average to advance stages. About 3 weeks ago our county had 16 new cases per 100,000 so we moved to stage 2. Beaches were opened, barbers, nail salons, dining at restaurants at 50%, retail at 30% occupancy, group activities limited to 5 people. Today we now have 36 cases per 100,000. We have slightly more than doubled our new cases in just over two weeks. Tomorrow masks are required for everybody unless at home or out of the house with only family members around. We are likely to have to move back to stage one. Many other areas in the states have allowed more and are doing much worse than we are. As of this evening Houston has no ICU beds. Texas, Florida and California have set records for daily new cases all week. They were much more liberal in reopening than Washington state. I hope you have better luck than we are having. This does not seem to be going away any time soon.

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by Paulf @, Mount Sterling, Ky 40353, Friday, June 26, 2020, 07:46 (12 days ago) @ Timmac

Did you see where Mexico ranks 3rd in deaths in the Americas' with of course the US being number 1. This is after people were saying Mexico was doing the prevention the right way. Sad part, when will this epidemic ever end.

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by Mexalberta @, Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:22 (12 days ago) @ Paulf

Testing and contact tracing has been lacking in Mexico as in the USA
We are fortunate in Alberta the pro active approach has been a winner.
No cost testing and open to anyone, pharmacies can now test.
We have a 1.6 per hundred thousand.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 11:47 (12 days ago) @ Mexalberta

Testing and contact tracing has been lacking in Mexico as in the USA
We are fortunate in Alberta the pro active approach has been a winner.
No cost testing and open to anyone, pharmacies can now test.
We have a 1.6 per hundred thousand.

Wooly bully for you. This isn't Canada. Mexico's health professionals have done what's best for MEXICO given México's unique circumstances, characteristics and limitations. They're doing an excellent job even if they aren't copying Canada. Imagine that.

Alberta, a population of 4.3 million in 660,000 sq. km. with about 6.3 people per sq. km. with a per capita income of US$57,036.

Mexico, a population of 128.6 million in 1,972.550 sq. km. with about 66.4 people per sq. km. with a per capita income of US$9,180.

So yeah, I guess it's easier to test and socially distance and do lots of things in Alberta than it is in Mexico.

You can follow the daily briefings of Subsecretario de Salud Dr. Hugo López-Gatell via this link:
Gobierno de México

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by Mexalberta @, Friday, June 26, 2020, 12:20 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Wasn't bragging or insulting Mexico
You proved my point, more population with a high density and less money needs a better government.

We are hugely sympathetic for the Mexican population.

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by Mexalberta @, Friday, June 26, 2020, 12:25 (12 days ago) @ Mexalberta

When we can return after a vaccine is viable we would gladly buy doses of vaccine for the local population . We fear it will not be free.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 13:03 (12 days ago) @ Mexalberta

When we can return after a vaccine is viable we would gladly buy doses of vaccine for the local population . We fear it will not be free.

The vaccine will be made available to the local population of Mexico and any foreigners here for free, as all standard vaccines are each year. The USA is where politicians and bureaucrats in the government's own healthcare institutions including the CDC are alleged to have economic interests in the vaccine.

Your kind and generous offer is greatly appreciated.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 13:08 (12 days ago) @ Mexalberta

Wasn't bragging or insulting Mexico
You proved my point, more population with a high density and less money needs a better government.

We are hugely sympathetic for the Mexican population.

That's why Mexicans overwhelmingly voted for and continue to support Presidente Andrés Manuel López Obrador. I don't see how your point was proven, but if you say so.

In Mexico we tend to think if corruption is reigned in then it will allow more economic well being and prosperity. Now if we can ever get Mexico and the USA to do the right thing and remove the multi-billion dollar a year narco trade from the control of violent organized criminals then lots of things will improve in Mexico.

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by hromero ⌂ @, Friday, June 26, 2020, 12:27 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I respect you and agree with you about many things Rob. Saying that Mexico's leaders have done what is best for Mexico with regards to Covid-19 is not one of them. Our president has since the beginning fed into the misinformation about this disease. The government has not invested in measures that would make it easier for the poor of this country to socially distance (i.e. adequate food assistance, income supplementation, contact tracing, medical investment, etc.) Instead the president seems to have taken an approach similar Trump's, which is to say that if we just don't test then the numbers of infected will look better and we can spin a story of how we are doing fine. Dr. Hugo Lopez Gatell has been saying since early April that the "next two weeks" will be the peak of infection for Mexico for more than two months running. The joke in some circles is that he will probably be saying that to the day he retires.

So instead of being in a position like New Zealand where we can begin to contemplate reopening safely, we are stuck in a situation where we are forced to open despite the dangers. It will be the poor who will suffer the most because the rich have retreated to their gated communities to draw off of their vast wealth, the poor are forced to choose between hunger and their health with little to no assistance from the government. I find it difficult to see how Mexico's government has done the best for its people.

I love this place and its people and I am committed to being a part of this country in many ways and that is what drives me to be critical of its response to this tragedy.

Un abrazo cálido.

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Humberto Romero
www.casaarcoiriszihuatanejo.com

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 12:59 (12 days ago) @ hromero

I respect you and agree with you about many things Rob. Saying that Mexico's leaders have done what is best for Mexico with regards to Covid-19 is not one of them. Our president has since the beginning fed into the misinformation about this disease. The government has not invested in measures that would make it easier for the poor of this country to socially distance (i.e. adequate food assistance, income supplementation, contact tracing, medical investment, etc.) Instead the president seems to have taken an approach similar Trump's, which is to say that if we just don't test then the numbers of infected will look better and we can spin a story of how we are doing fine. Dr. Hugo Lopez Gatell has been saying since early April that the "next two weeks" will be the peak of infection for Mexico for more than two months running. The joke in some circles is that he will probably be saying that to the day he retires.

So instead of being in a position like New Zealand where we can begin to contemplate reopening safely, we are stuck in a situation where we are forced to open despite the dangers. It will be the poor who will suffer the most because the rich have retreated to their gated communities to draw off of their vast wealth, the poor are forced to choose between hunger and their health with little to no assistance from the government. I find it difficult to see how Mexico's government has done the best for its people.

I love this place and its people and I am committed to being a part of this country in many ways and that is what drives me to be critical of its response to this tragedy.

Un abrazo cálido.

I'll have to respectfully disagree, because for starters, it was never about Mexico's president. From the git-go he let the professionals, the epidemiólogos in the Secretaría de Salud, set the rules. Now lots of news media in Mexico represent opposition politics, and almost all of them are resentful that the curent federal government no longer subsidizes them as it used to do, and this has everything to do with what is reported unless you are following the DAILY NEWS BRIEFINGS where all questions are answered including many of the criticisms you just mentioned.

The elderly are receiving their monthly payments several months at a time. Community kitchens to feed the needy are available and run by the federal government via the military, not by the state and local government as the latter would have us believe. It is the state and local governments who are failing at their duties to take care of their constituents. But hey, we have a nice new bicycle path that absolutely no one was clamoring for and that was built by the mayor's company with no bidding and no transparency along with many new cement streets and similar projects. Perhaps some of those projects could've been set aside to provide for local families. Instead, local and state politicians have used the pandemia for photo ops and meager half-measured attempts to help their constituents while the president has allowed his Secretaría de Salud to buy the necessary time to refit and supply woefully inadequate healthcare facilities, no fault of the current government, to meet the demands of the pandemia. Even during a major earthquake they continued performing their duties quite admirably in the affected areas.

If you followed the daily briefings you would know your comments about contact tracing are erroneous as you would also know why testing is not being carried out in the same fashion as it is in the USA, where testing apparently hasn't mattered, it is still the worst country in the world except for Brazil in responding to the pandemia. Mexico's president has nothing in common with The Chump, especially in the government's response to the pandemia. As I said, they bought time to purchase the necessary equipment, much of it at first blocked by the USA. China came to Mexico's aid because Mexico came to China's aid. That's how international relations are supposed to work.

Amigo, much of your criticism is not based on actual facts but instead what is being erroneously reported in media including the Mexico City News English-language newspaper and several U.S. and a couple of British media. Their reasons for publishing misleading stories are their own, but they don't change the verifiable facts.

Why has Mexico not issued stimulus checks? Because it has no reliable method of doing so until its network of Banco de Bienestar branches are built. How is someone who has no bank account or street address or mailing address supposed to receive them? Stand in line in the hot sun or the rain for hours waiting for a politician to show up and get their photo taken handing them out as has been the way for decades? Not a good idea during a pandemia. In the struggle against corruption is also the core principle of removing all these middlemen from the disbursement process so there is no repeat of the Estafa Maestra. There are still folks waiting for help from the Ingrid-Manuel storms and the Temblor de Viernes Santo here in Guerrero even though billions of pesos were sent to help them.

I urge you to watch the daily briefings via the link I posted in another comment in this discussion thread.

Saludos y abrazos.

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by hromero ⌂ @, Friday, June 26, 2020, 14:00 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

You would be wrong to say that I do not follow the daily briefings and that I only follow English language new media. I follow many of the same news media you recommend on your website and often, if not every day, follow the daily briefings. I am savvy enough to know that they all have biases of their own. I read spanish language news about mexico more than I do English language news. But I don't take AMLO for his word either because the verifiable facts speak quite differently.

What verifiable fact am I missing about contact tracing?

Was I wrong in stating that the sub-secretary of Health has been saying since the beginning of April that the peak of infection is coming in the following week?

What verifiable fact am I missing that shows that there are enough beds and ventilators for those that are sick?

How can you say it was never about the president when in March he was telling Mexicans to go out and enjoy their lives in restaurants etc. contrary to the advice of the experts who were telling people to "quedate en casa"?

What verifiable fact am I missing about the inadequacy of the kitchens that the government is providing. Are you saying that many generous people in the area are giving donations despite the fact that the government is giving adequate food assistance to the poor? I can tell you that we have many family members who are in a position where they have to take advantage of those kitchens and they aren't available every day nor with sufficient food supplies. They are appreciative of what they are getting but by no means can they survive on that alone.

What verifiable fact am I missing that says that the federal government is investing in the health response?

Where is the verifiable fact that everyone will be given a vaccine shot when it is available?

I don't disagree with you about the corruption of local government and its inadequacies. Neither am I willing to blindly swallow the the daily briefings of AMLO and his discredited sub-secretary of health because I and my family are living in the consequences of their lack of a competent response.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 14:27 (12 days ago) @ hromero

You would be wrong to say that I do not follow the daily briefings and that I only follow English language new media. I follow many of the same news media you recommend on your website and often, if not every day, follow the daily briefings. I am savvy enough to know that they all have biases of their own. I read spanish language news about mexico more than I do English language news. But I don't take AMLO for his word either because the verifiable facts speak quite differently.

What verifiable fact am I missing about contact tracing?

You say it isn’t being carried out. It was indeed and still is except where no longer feasible.

Was I wrong in stating that the sub-secretary of Health has been saying since the beginning of April that the peak of infection is coming in the following week?

As the virus was slowed, the peak period was pushed back. That was always the intent.

What verifiable fact am I missing that shows that there are enough beds and ventilators for those that are sick?

There never were. Thus the measures to buy time to prepare as best as circumstances allowed. Thus the enlisting of non-governmental health services to try to make up for the deficiency, product of decades of neglect. Again, there appears to be some misunderstanding if you believed someone guaranteed there would be enough beds and ventilators, but if you follow the daily briefings then you know that so far there have been enough beds and ventilators.

How can you say it was never about the president when in March he was telling Mexicans to go out and enjoy their lives in restaurants etc. contrary to the advice of the experts who were telling people to "quedate en casa"?

March? Another criticism that is superficial that had zero consequences. The media playing up a non-issue. Whatever disconnect you believe there was, it was short lived.

What verifiable fact am I missing about the inadequacy of the kitchens that the government is providing. Are you saying that many generous people in the area are giving donations despite the fact that the government is giving adequate food assistance to the poor? I can tell you that we have many family members who are in a position where they have to take advantage of those kitchens and they aren't available every day nor with sufficient food supplies. They are appreciative of what they are getting but by no means can they survive on that alone.

Now we’re getting extremely confused. No one ever said the community kitchens would suffice. I already responded to this. Local government should be taking care of the people it will soon be asking to vote for them.

What verifiable fact am I missing that says that the federal government is investing in the health response?

Besides the tens of thousands of PPE and ventilators it has been trying to disperse around the country or the Covid-19 quarantine centers it has been setting up in areas where they are needed, mostly Mexico City and Guadalajara but also other cities.

Where is the verifiable fact that everyone will be given a vaccine shot when it is available?

Are you unaware how our public health services work? Each year vaccines are made available free to the public, and the president has already said this one will be, too. I feel like I’m repeating myself here.

I don't disagree with you about the corruption of local government and its inadequacies. Neither am I willing to blindly swallow the the daily briefings of AMLO and his discredited sub-secretary of health because I and my family are living in the consequences of their lack of a competent response.

Discredited? Nope. That’s someone else’s bias. The response has been extremely competent in the humble opinions of my wife and me.

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by Ironwood @, Friday, June 26, 2020, 15:54 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob


How can you say it was never about the president when in March he was telling Mexicans to go out and enjoy their lives in restaurants etc. contrary to the advice of the experts who were telling people to "quedate en casa"?


March? Another criticism that is superficial that had zero consequences. The media playing up a non-issue. Whatever disconnect you believe there was, it was short lived.

Here in Canada, we have full coverage of the coronavirus situation both here and in the USA. For most of us who are Zihua regulars, our sources for Mexican coronavirus news are limited to the few Mexican English-language sites, and from this Message Board.
Existing, and newly-introduced social safety nets in Canada and the USA have gone a long way to lessening the pain the pandemic has caused. Mexico doesn't have that luxury. Understood, then, that Mexico has its own approach.
Time will tell if Rob's enthusiastic support for Mexico's response was justified.
But when it comes to pooh-poohing criticism of AMLO's odd behavior, calling it "superficial ", a "non-issue", with "zero consequences" he sounds exactly like Republicans defending Trump's odd behavior and incompetence. Most intelligent observers of the US response take Trump's behavior very seriously, going so far as to state that thousands of lives could have been saved, had Trump acted responsibly from Day 1.
If the behavior of the President of the USA has had a disastrous effect on the nation's handling of the health crisis, why does AMLO get a pass?
Sorry, Jack.

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by jaime13 @, Friday, June 26, 2020, 15:59 (12 days ago) @ Ironwood

Ironwood, as usual, nails it. And he didn't need thousands of works to do so.

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by jaime13 @, Friday, June 26, 2020, 16:35 (12 days ago) @ Ironwood

Re: my reply to Ironwood - meant to write "words" and not "works." A senior moment!

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 17:27 (11 days ago) @ jaime13

Re: my reply to Ironwood - meant to write "words" and not "works." A senior moment!

FOR FUTURE REFERENCE
Instead of making a second post to correct an error in another, please use the EDIT function.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 17:13 (11 days ago) @ Ironwood


How can you say it was never about the president when in March he was telling Mexicans to go out and enjoy their lives in restaurants etc. contrary to the advice of the experts who were telling people to "quedate en casa"?


March? Another criticism that is superficial that had zero consequences. The media playing up a non-issue. Whatever disconnect you believe there was, it was short lived.


Here in Canada, we have full coverage of the coronavirus situation both here and in the USA. For most of us who are Zihua regulars, our sources for Mexican coronavirus news are limited to the few Mexican English-language sites, and from this Message Board.
Existing, and newly-introduced social safety nets in Canada and the USA have gone a long way to lessening the pain the pandemic has caused. Mexico doesn't have that luxury. Understood, then, that Mexico has its own approach.
Time will tell if Rob's enthusiastic support for Mexico's response was justified.
But when it comes to pooh-poohing criticism of AMLO's odd behavior, calling it "superficial ", a "non-issue", with "zero consequences" he sounds exactly like Republicans defending Trump's odd behavior and incompetence. Most intelligent observers of the US response take Trump's behavior very seriously, going so far as to state that thousands of lives could have been saved, had Trump acted responsibly from Day 1.
If the behavior of the President of the USA has had a disastrous effect on the nation's handling of the health crisis, why does AMLO get a pass?
Sorry, Jack.

No one is getting a pass. Much was made in newspapers abroad and the ones that are anti-AMLO that he said he didn’t fear the virus because he had good luck charms. It was a joke. He was not serious. It was taken out of context and used as a big criticism. Anyone who watched the briefing knows he was joking. As to telling people to go out and enjoy themselves while Dr. López-Gatell was saying stay indoors, again one must look at the timeline and the context. It was before there was any community contagion, and he correctly stated that Mexicans have no savings like the gringos and cannot shut down and get by. Again, correct. A large part of Mexico lives day to day. We needed to keep the economy going. When it was time to shut down, he gave the order and we did. But the gringos and others criticized him because in their countries they were experiencing a full-blown contagion while Mexico wasn’t. So, timelines matter. Facts matter. No one has backed up their criticisms, and I’ve seen all of these answered satisfactorily by Dr. López-Gatell.

I don’t have the time or the inclination to go dig up these old criticisms from their original news sources. If someone else does feel free to do so. Mexico bought the time it needed better than expected to slow down the advance of the virus and get its medical institutions prepared. So that’s why the peak was moved back from one week to another and another. Not because the doctor is incompetent or wrong, but because Mexicans in many aspects behaved better than the modeling suggested, even with all our shortcomings.

Mexico City and the State of Mexico have both seen enough progress to go from red to orange and allow some businesses to reopen. So has Guerrero. It doesn’t mean the threat is over. It means that for over two weeks sufficient progress has been made in slowing the advance of the virus. So while numbers rise because that’s how addition works, other epidemiological factors have met the goals that were set for easing restrictions.

If you want to still say I’m acting like a Chumplet all I can say to that is you are mistaken. My wife feels exactly the same way as I do on this matter and these silly criticisms that are unfounded and out of context. We respect others’ opinions, but we also expect the same respect for ours, and we believe the FACTS (those things no Chumplet dare acknowledge) support our take on this matter.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:19 (12 days ago) @ Timmac

In Washington, they look at the two week daily average to advance stages. About 3 weeks ago our county had 16 new cases per 100,000 so we moved to stage 2. Beaches were opened, barbers, nail salons, dining at restaurants at 50%, retail at 30% occupancy, group activities limited to 5 people. Today we now have 36 cases per 100,000. We have slightly more than doubled our new cases in just over two weeks. Tomorrow masks are required for everybody unless at home or out of the house with only family members around. We are likely to have to move back to stage one. Many other areas in the states have allowed more and are doing much worse than we are. As of this evening Houston has no ICU beds. Texas, Florida and California have set records for daily new cases all week. They were much more liberal in reopening than Washington state. I hope you have better luck than we are having. This does not seem to be going away any time soon.

Gracias, Tim. We expect tourists will bring the virus with them, but if the hotel workers protect themselves and in turn teach their families the sanitary protective methods they are learning at work, we should see a minimal negative impact.

Our weakest link is currently the public transportation system that so many people use.

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by JACK @, Friday, June 26, 2020, 15:51 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

This board should be like twitter with 280 characters maximum.

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Friday, June 26, 2020, 16:35 (12 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob, I agree that the public transportation needs to be improved meaning education and cultural upgrades for combi and taxi drivers. My husband and I masked up to do various errands this morning (after staying at home 10 days) like banking, picking up many more cubrebocas (masks for Spanish-challenged folks), grocery shopping, car parts shopping and dog/cat food & meds shopping.

I surveyed the drivers and found only 10 percent cubrebocas on their faces. Luckily, we have a car (16 yrs. old) because I would not enter either form of local transport, especially with our higher count of those infected. On the good side, it seemed more than 90 percent of walkers used masks.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, June 26, 2020, 18:57 (11 days ago) @ Susan G

Rob, I agree that the public transportation needs to be improved meaning education and cultural upgrades for combi and taxi drivers. My husband and I masked up to do various errands this morning (after staying at home 10 days) like banking, picking up many more cubrebocas (masks for Spanish-challenged folks), grocery shopping, car parts shopping and dog/cat food & meds shopping.

I surveyed the drivers and found only 10 percent cubrebocas on their faces. Luckily, we have a car (16 yrs. old) because I would not enter either form of local transport, especially with our higher count of those infected. On the good side, it seemed more than 90 percent of walkers used masks.

Did you say anything to the drivers? If you don't let them know why you aren't using their service then nothing is gained. It's up to us, not the government, to let transportistas and other businesses know why we avoid using their services. The government gave them hand sanitizer and facemasks as well as information how to help protect the health of their passengers and themselves.

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Friday, June 26, 2020, 20:06 (11 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

During the pandemic, we have asked our tailor to make 4 batches of 30 each (today we picked up the 4th) and have given them away to people who approach us without a mask and have stressed the importance of using one. After a life-time career in marketing communications, I've learned that it takes 7 mentions to make a viable change. Maybe it's time for the city to provide additional masks and sanitizers -- especially to those service providers like public transport who are approached daily by possible virus carriers. For me to approach another moving vehicle today while we were on the move did not provide any opportunity for this needed education.

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by mosesk @, Ojai, CA, USA, Saturday, June 27, 2020, 11:56 (11 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

In Washington, they look at the two week daily average to advance stages. About 3 weeks ago our county had 16 new cases per 100,000 so we moved to stage 2. Beaches were opened, barbers, nail salons, dining at restaurants at 50%, retail at 30% occupancy, group activities limited to 5 people. Today we now have 36 cases per 100,000. We have slightly more than doubled our new cases in just over two weeks. Tomorrow masks are required for everybody unless at home or out of the house with only family members around. We are likely to have to move back to stage one. Many other areas in the states have allowed more and are doing much worse than we are. As of this evening Houston has no ICU beds. Texas, Florida and California have set records for daily new cases all week. They were much more liberal in reopening than Washington state. I hope you have better luck than we are having. This does not seem to be going away any time soon.


Gracias, Tim. We expect tourists will bring the virus with them, but if the hotel workers protect themselves and in turn teach their families the sanitary protective methods they are learning at work, we should see a minimal negative impact.

Our weakest link is currently the public transportation system that so many people use.

It's very relevant to me that you say that about the public transportation system.
For the almost 5 months I was there from mid January to not quite mid June, and of course Covid Time for most of that, the one part of my not quite daily life where I felt most at risk is when I would take the colectivo from downtown or a taxi from Mega or Bodega back up to top of Madera.
Since I was usually carrying either a small or a large shopping walking up the hill wasn't really an option.
I think I had a mask on every time I hopped on to a combi and taxi.
But I would notice many did not.
And of course being in a confined space.
And yes- I am a "breather", a deep breather.
It's my way of dealing with the stresses of life.
So far, so good...but...occasionally anxious and stressful mini-moments...
Stay safe
Be well

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by marylee, Saturday, June 27, 2020, 08:48 (11 days ago) @ Timmac

I agree Tim we want Zih to stay safe. The US reported yesterday highest number of new coronavirus cases in a single day. These were in the states where the governors were trying to do what Trump wanted - to open up their states as quickly as possible. Those 3 states in particular which are Florida, Arizona and Texas, with Texas reporting a record 5,996 new cases on Thursday and another 5,707 cases yesterday (June 26th). I hope people will be smart, carry alcohol gel, and wear faces when in close proximity to other people and practice social distancing - especially in restaurants and bars.....