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by johnnyzihuat, Monday, August 03, 2020, 14:14 (87 days ago)

I just purchased a condo in Zihuat and was quoted what I felt was a high price from a recommended architect to take out old tile and replace with travertine. From the start the price of material was 300% more than what I would pay from a local vendor I found on the internet. Then he reduced the tile price and hugely marked up the labour cost.

Can anyone recommend labourers and a tile expert who charge reasonable rates? I also want to strap and drywall the ceiling, put in pot lights and reposition the fans and add fresh paint throughout. I will be supplying the materials. Does anyone knows what going rates are? I have no problem paying the people doing the work more than going rate. I have a problem paying contractors who hugely inflate prices and then pay the labourers peanuts. I have a 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom 85m2 condo. Your advice and recommendation are much appreciated.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, August 03, 2020, 14:36 (87 days ago) @ johnnyzihuat

We have used several different tile people, and were terribly disappointed in the quality of the work until we had our granite work done by Issac and his workers. Issac is Marmoles del Pacifico, the granite and stone place between the airport and town on the inland side, near OXXO.

His people and he do terrific work and he takes good care of them. 755 130 7004 and 755 111 7875

Feel free to say we sent you.

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by johnnyzihuat, Monday, August 03, 2020, 19:44 (87 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Thanks for the referral, I will certainly contact them. I was youtubing hiring a contractor in Mexico and learned that we have to be careful that they are a legit contractor and not an independent. If they are not a legit contractor we are responsible as employers and If they get hurt on the job, that could financially ruin a person for life. I only want legit contractors and if I cannot afford to renovate then I will have to wait until I can.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Tuesday, August 04, 2020, 06:52 (87 days ago) @ johnnyzihuat

A while ago we needed some roofing work done. We hired a supposedly good contractor, insisted that his workers are HIS employees, are covered by insurance and are properly secured while working on the roof. On the first day, one of the workers - unsecured - fell off the roof and was severely injured. No insurance and we took it in the shorts financially. Should we need to do such work again, we'll have our attorney make sure everything is in order before starting.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 10:10 (86 days ago) @ frostbite

A while ago we needed some roofing work done. We hired a supposedly good contractor, insisted that his workers are HIS employees, are covered by insurance and are properly secured while working on the roof. On the first day, one of the workers - unsecured - fell off the roof and was severely injured. No insurance and we took it in the shorts financially. Should we need to do such work again, we'll have our attorney make sure everything is in order before starting.

Amigo, we have work done all the time just like everyone else who lives here. Most of it quite informal. Accidents happen but no one gets sued for them. You got hit for being a foreigner who doesn't speak the language or know local customs. It's easy to take advantage of outsiders or newbies anywhere in the world. When folks see you have money to throw at things, they'll take it from you. That's why locals know never to look like you have money. And never let yourself be taken advantage of. Including by los ministerios públicos, lawyers looking for a piece of your pie along with their assistants, and especially los secretarios de acuerdos at the juzgado, sometimes even the judges themselves, as I found out the hard way though I eventually prevailed. Sorry to say, but I've said it to you before, there were just too many things you did wrong that opened you up to this type of extortion. How do you hire "a supposedly good contractor"? According to whom?

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 10:31 (85 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

A while ago we needed some roofing work done. We hired a supposedly good contractor, insisted that his workers are HIS employees, are covered by insurance and are properly secured while working on the roof. On the first day, one of the workers - unsecured - fell off the roof and was severely injured. No insurance and we took it in the shorts financially. Should we need to do such work again, we'll have our attorney make sure everything is in order before starting.


Amigo, we have work done all the time just like everyone else who lives here. Most of it quite informal. Accidents happen but no one gets sued for them. You got hit for being a foreigner who doesn't speak the language or know local customs. It's easy to take advantage of outsiders or newbies anywhere in the world. When folks see you have money to throw at things, they'll take it from you. That's why locals know never to look like you have money. And never let yourself be taken advantage of. Including by los ministerios públicos, lawyers looking for a piece of your pie along with their assistants, and especially los secretarios de acuerdos at the juzgado, sometimes even the judges themselves, as I found out the hard way though I eventually prevailed. Sorry to say, but I've said it to you before, there were just too many things you did wrong that opened you up to this type of extortion. How do you hire "a supposedly good contractor"? According to whom?

I hired a good architect/contractor - Luis Trevino - to build the place, after the original guy said my drawings were "too ordinary"; he needed to be more creative. I saw a picture of a place Luis designed, so I called him. Very satisfied by his work but, in the meantime, he has left the area.

The roofer was recommended by a neighbor.

Regardless of how humble and seedy you might try to look, it won't take Mensa membership to realize you have money, if you're planning to build locally.

We've had excellent assistance from a local attorney in other matters.

What else did we do wrong?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 10:58 (85 days ago) @ frostbite

A while ago we needed some roofing work done. We hired a supposedly good contractor, insisted that his workers are HIS employees, are covered by insurance and are properly secured while working on the roof. On the first day, one of the workers - unsecured - fell off the roof and was severely injured. No insurance and we took it in the shorts financially. Should we need to do such work again, we'll have our attorney make sure everything is in order before starting.


Amigo, we have work done all the time just like everyone else who lives here. Most of it quite informal. Accidents happen but no one gets sued for them. You got hit for being a foreigner who doesn't speak the language or know local customs. It's easy to take advantage of outsiders or newbies anywhere in the world. When folks see you have money to throw at things, they'll take it from you. That's why locals know never to look like you have money. And never let yourself be taken advantage of. Including by los ministerios públicos, lawyers looking for a piece of your pie along with their assistants, and especially los secretarios de acuerdos at the juzgado, sometimes even the judges themselves, as I found out the hard way though I eventually prevailed. Sorry to say, but I've said it to you before, there were just too many things you did wrong that opened you up to this type of extortion. How do you hire "a supposedly good contractor"? According to whom?


I hired a good architect/contractor - Luis Trevino - to build the place, after the original guy said my drawings were "too ordinary"; he needed to be more creative. I saw a picture of a place Luis designed, so I called him. Very satisfied by his work but, in the meantime, he has left the area.

The roofer was recommended by a neighbor.

Regardless of how humble and seedy you might try to look, it won't take Mensa membership to realize you have money, if you're planning to build locally.

We've had excellent assistance from a local attorney in other matters.

What else did we do wrong?

Yeah, unfortunately I know one of your favorite attorneys whom you've recommended here often whom I believe has questionable moral and ethical principles. Don't get me started or I'll say something he'll have to sue me for.

As someone who has spent most of the past 50 years living in vacation destinations, I believe I speak for a lot of locals everywhere when I say our favorite visitors are the ones who come and visit then leave. ;-)

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by Casa Juan @, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 12:47 (85 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Remember Rob those who build in Zihua are helping the local economy, providing good jobs and providing a cash infusion into the local economy that exists year round, not just for a few months.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 13:10 (85 days ago) @ Casa Juan

Remember Rob those who build in Zihua are helping the local economy, providing good jobs and providing a cash infusion into the local economy that exists year round, not just for a few months.

Uh huh. Except that’s a circular argument, and the end result is the same. Overbuilding, land invasions, overpopulation, and the loss forever of Zihuatanejo’s main attractions, one of which used to be its picturesque green unpopulated hills, now covered with cement, shacks, houses, condos and even villas. And somehow we can never seem to employ all the unemployed because they keep arriving. Everyone looking to suckle from the Zihuatanejo cash cow while the old locals grow less prosperous as they get shoved aside.

That was the same promise the folks who gave us Ixtapa made. They still haven’t been able to keep their promises or even to pay their debts.

And then there are folks like El Negro Durazo, Guillermo Salinas de Gortari and Emilio Lozoya.

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by Casa Juan @, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 14:15 (85 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

just my HMO,but I think you are ignoring all the non residents that move to Zihua and contribute mightly to the fabric of Zihua including some who advertise on your web site.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 14:44 (85 days ago) @ Casa Juan

just my HMO,but I think you are ignoring all the non residents that move to Zihua and contribute mightly to the fabric of Zihua including some who advertise on your web site.

Yep, I sure am. How about that? What a piss poor capitalist I must be not to tell you what you want to hear, to dare speak up and to speak out against development by people from other places at the expense of our humble community, a community each day less zihuatanejense, less linked to its origins, less in touch with itself, more selfish and less interested in anything but each individual's own prosperity. But that's my honest opinion. While lots of us are grateful for the help from foreigners, it also goes without saying that without the influx here of people from other places, including many of the people who originally invaded the hillsides that became property you purchased from the folks who not that long ago got title to the land they invaded, sometimes even with the help of some of these same well-meaning foreigners, the people who were already here would've enjoyed (and still be enjoying) much greater prosperity. And we wouldn't have many of the problems we now suffer. Zihuatanejo was quite content being a small town where everyone knew each other before developers and people from other places arrived with their money, their resources and their cultural baggage. Now most people here haven't a friggin clue about Zihuatanejo's past or who the old families are or what they did, and they aren't even related to them. I'm sure lots of folks reading here call this progress. I don't.

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"Florida can never really come to grips with saving the environment because a very large percentage of the population at any given time just got there. So why should they fight to turn the clock back? It looks great to them the way it is. Two years later, as they are beginning to feel uneasy, a few thousand more people are just discovering it all for the first time and wouldn't change a thing. And meanwhile the people who knew what it was like twenty years ago are an ever-dwindling minority, a voice too faint to be heard."
John D. MacDonald, "The Empty Copper Sea" (1978)

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by Casa Juan @, Thursday, August 06, 2020, 00:29 (85 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I suspect that your birth certificate shows you were not born in Mexico.

Maybe a NIMBY attitude is in conflict with your promotion of tourist facilities?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, August 06, 2020, 10:36 (84 days ago) @ Casa Juan

I suspect that your birth certificate shows you were not born in Mexico.

Maybe a NIMBY attitude is in conflict with your promotion of tourist facilities?

I get it that my punto de vista may cause you discomfort. It's the same opinion I've held most all my life.

We can't choose where we are born, but I've lived here more than half my life and I have no problem with my migratory status. Not sure why you feel bringing that up serves some purpose of yours. If you had a point, I missed it. I'm from a lot of places, but mostly from here. That's just the way life works. I didn't come here to take anything from the community or to change it. I simply took a risk on life, gambled on happiness and followed my heart, and this is where it led me to give my heart to an amazing person who also gave her heart to me. Somos una pareja de atrevidos.

I knew long before you did what would happen to the land on the hillsides once it was invaded, and in that section of town where you built the land thieves received quite a bit of help from non-Spanish speaking non-resident foreigners wanting to "help the children", many who got angry with me for pointing out the error they were committing by helping paracaidistas (it's in the Archives). And as predicted, as soon as those "poor" people received title to the land, many sold it to unsuspecting people like you and invaded other ecological zones to repeat the process, just like what's happened in Acapulco, and in that fashion Zihuatanejo lost and continues losing one of its principal attractions: its natural beauty and picture postcard scenic hills that the community thought it had protected for future generations by law. Corrupt people determined otherwise.

I have no conflict helping the humble hard-working and honest people in this community, my community, to make a living and hopefully to prosper. But I refuse to tolerate assh0les and corruptos.

Saludos.

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by midalake @, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 15:16 (85 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Remember Rob those who build in Zihua are helping the local economy, providing good jobs and providing a cash infusion into the local economy that exists year round, not just for a few months.


Uh huh. Except that’s a circular argument, and the end result is the same. Overbuilding, land invasions, overpopulation, and the loss forever of Zihuatanejo’s main attractions, one of which used to be its picturesque green unpopulated hills, now covered with cement, shacks, houses, condos and even villas. And somehow we can never seem to employ all the unemployed because they keep arriving. Everyone looking to suckle from the Zihuatanejo cash cow while the old locals grow less prosperous as they get shoved aside.

That was the same promise the folks who gave us Ixtapa made. They still haven’t been able to keep their promises or even to pay their debts.

And then there are folks like El Negro Durazo, Guillermo Salinas de Gortari and Emilio Lozoya.

Well there is a clear CHOICE and CLEAR COMPARISON. All one has to do is travel a short ways south to look at the deep water port of Puerto Vincente. [which I love]
It is like stepping back to the 1960's where EVERYONE does live with dirt floors and tin roofs.
To dismiss the amount of boats [people] that have been lifted by the tourism cannot be ignored. Also with in my opinion, has been a very gradual build-up of the area over a very long time period.

Maybe Rob is just better suited for Puerto Vincente?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 17:59 (85 days ago) @ midalake

Remember Rob those who build in Zihua are helping the local economy, providing good jobs and providing a cash infusion into the local economy that exists year round, not just for a few months.


Uh huh. Except that’s a circular argument, and the end result is the same. Overbuilding, land invasions, overpopulation, and the loss forever of Zihuatanejo’s main attractions, one of which used to be its picturesque green unpopulated hills, now covered with cement, shacks, houses, condos and even villas. And somehow we can never seem to employ all the unemployed because they keep arriving. Everyone looking to suckle from the Zihuatanejo cash cow while the old locals grow less prosperous as they get shoved aside.

That was the same promise the folks who gave us Ixtapa made. They still haven’t been able to keep their promises or even to pay their debts.

And then there are folks like El Negro Durazo, Guillermo Salinas de Gortari and Emilio Lozoya.


Well there is a clear CHOICE and CLEAR COMPARISON. All one has to do is travel a short ways south to look at the deep water port of Puerto Vincente. [which I love]
It is like stepping back to the 1960's where EVERYONE does live with dirt floors and tin roofs.
To dismiss the amount of boats [people] that have been lifted by the tourism cannot be ignored. Also with in my opinion, has been a very gradual build-up of the area over a very long time period.

Maybe Rob is just better suited for Puerto Vincente?

Puerto Vicente Guerrero has grown into a nice little area were several old La Ropa castaways eventually fled to.

But I'm suited just fine for the place where my wife was born, where we met and fell in love, where we are family and friends with so many, where we have shed so much blood, sweat and tears. Where the main church bears my wife's name because her mother built and named it. This will always be hogar, dulce hogar.

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by johnnyzihuat, Monday, August 03, 2020, 19:53 (87 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Thank you for the lead Talley Ho, that is exactly what I am looking for and I will make sure they know you sent me. Much appreciated. John

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Monday, August 03, 2020, 20:23 (87 days ago) @ johnnyzihuat

You have an excellent recommendation for what you are looking for. This is a good worker and crew. And you are correct about hiring a contractor(business) versus an independent.

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by nicatnit, Tuesday, August 04, 2020, 06:12 (87 days ago) @ johnnyzihuat

I recommend Ing. Jamie Perez. He did incredible quality work for me. The pattern was complicated “Versailles” The work was first rate. He doesn’t work cheap but the quality is outstanding.

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by johnnyzihuat, Friday, August 07, 2020, 06:42 (84 days ago) @ nicatnit

Thank you Nicatnit, do you have contact information for Jamie

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by nicatnit, Sunday, August 09, 2020, 07:13 (82 days ago) @ johnnyzihuat

I do but I will need to connect you with my Administrator and he can help you make contact
His email is:
bluepacifico@outlook.com
His name is Hector Fiore Morales. Hector is also a good friend and he will help make the connection

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by ARQJEL, Tuesday, August 04, 2020, 19:55 (86 days ago) @ johnnyzihuat

Good afternoon. I have a company established in Zihuatanejo and my quotes includes insure of my workers and taxes. Like a reference I worked in the remodelation of Penthouse in Casa Nido located in La Ropa beach.
I can do a estimate of the works that you need.
My information is:
Name company ARQJEL CONSTRUCCIONES S.A. DE C.V.
Mail arqjel@prodigy.net.mx
Cellphone 7551133903
Arq. Jesus Antonio Espino Castro
Regards.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, August 05, 2020, 10:17 (86 days ago) @ ARQJEL

Good afternoon. I have a company established in Zihuatanejo and my quotes includes insure of my workers and taxes. Like a reference I worked in the remodelation of Penthouse in Casa Nido located in La Ropa beach.
I can do a estimate of the works that you need.
My information is:
Name company ARQJEL CONSTRUCCIONES S.A. DE C.V.
Mail arqjel@prodigy.net.mx
Cellphone 7551133903
Arq. Jesus Antonio Espino Castro
Regards.

Muchas gracias por la referencia y por sus datos, Arquitecto. Su participación siempre es bienvenida aquí, sea para buscar clientes u ofrecer información. Un saludo.

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by johnnyzihuat, Friday, August 07, 2020, 06:40 (84 days ago) @ ARQJEL

Thank you ARQJEL, I will call you for a quote when i get to Zihuat on closing