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by Pacific Princess, West, Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 19:10 (36 days ago)

Are the vendors still working, selling on the beach? I remember hearing the laws for these folks were changing going forward at some time?? Hoping they are on the beach as we (tourists and others) plan our trips from Canada and US, but if the law changed, does it apply to all food, drinks like ice-creams, cheese and nuts as well as the local artifacts such as silver, carvings and bracelets (to name a few)??!!
Gracias
(I'm not a ship ;-) )

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 19:49 (36 days ago) @ Pacific Princess

They are still on the beach, in limited numbers because the beaches are restricted. You can go to the beach, you can sit on the beach, but you can't take your own chairs or umbrellas to the beach. Groups are limited to three, and masks are required to enter the beach. This is what is being enforced on Playa la Ropa.

We do our "morning" things, dogs, swim, paddle, early, so we are home by 9:30 ish. Normally we would spend many afternoons on the beach under our umbrella, watching the world. Now? We are so white skinned that if we were to go out without our umbrella, we would be fried in no time.

The vendors are out there when they can be. Those who do things like rent kayaks, banana rides and para sailing are allowed a chair for each employee and an umbrella. At least they don't have to fry!!!

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 20:03 (36 days ago) @ Talley Ho

The mask requirement on Playa la Ropa is NOT being enforced at the entrance to the beach where all the combis park and the giant buses let off the Mexican tourists at the parking lot. The tourist police just stand there and watch the Mexican families entering the beach w/out masks.

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by ZihuaRx @, Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 21:54 (36 days ago) @ Talley Ho

You can't take your own umbrella to the beach?

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by Rigamarta, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 08:03 (35 days ago) @ Talley Ho

And what would be the reasoning for not being allowed to bring your own chair?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 08:41 (35 days ago) @ Rigamarta

And what would be the reasoning for not being allowed to bring your own chair?

No problem on any other beach in Zihuatanejo. Take your chair or your petate. Take your umbrella. Take your non-styrofoam cooler (no glass bottles or jars). I get the impression whoever set the rules for La Ropa doesn't really know what they're doing and they're simply SIMULATING what they believe is their duty.Beginning with the stupid "certificación Blue Flag", a designation that may mean something to European travel agents but doesn't mean squat here in America. One would think we would know how to keep our beaches clean without having guidelines made up by people who aren't from here and who don't live here, but for a politician it looks good on their curriculum vitae and it gives them access to resources with which to pay political favors.

Apparently at La Ropa they only want you walking on the beach but sitting in one of the restaurants. Even hotels aren't allowed to put their own chairs out for their own guests. No such problem in Ixtapa or at any other beach in the region.

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by SunnySunnyTime @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 08:54 (35 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I'm having trouble understanding this - I can sit on La Ropa - a public beach - in the sand but I can't sit on La Ropa on my own portable beach chair? Or under my own umbrella which protects me from the sun?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 09:02 (35 days ago) @ SunnySunnyTime

I'm having trouble understanding this - I can sit on La Ropa - a public beach - in the sand but I can't sit on La Ropa on my own portable beach chair? Or under my own umbrella which protects me from the sun?

Yes. Utter stupidity. And you also can't bring your furry or feathered family members to the beach with you either because a certain influential person once stepped in doggie doo on the beach years ago because she wasn't watching where she was walking and the poor dear contracted an infection.

It's almost as if they don't want people at La Ropa Beach. I keep wondering why the local lodging operators put up with this. I can only guess false promises or false claims were made to some of them by certain influential people.

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by Rigamarta, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 09:22 (35 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Mexican politicians don't have the monopoly on stupidity. Earlier in the year, Michigan residents were not allowed to go to their lake cottage, second home or vacation property in the state, but if a Wisconsin resident owned a vacation property there, they were allowed to use it.

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by jay @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 14:24 (35 days ago) @ Rigamarta

Mexican politicians don't have the monopoly on stupidity. Earlier in the year, Michigan residents were not allowed to go to their lake cottage, second home or vacation property in the state, but if a Wisconsin resident owned a vacation property there, they were allowed to use it.

Earlier in the year we didn't know much about Covid - how it was transmitted or the ease of transmission. Hence the lockdowns. Michigan regulations applied to Michigan residents only. The state didn't have any control over Wisconsin residents, unless it wanted to set up roadblocks at the border. Not so stupid after all.

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by Rigamarta, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 15:07 (35 days ago) @ jay

Seriously? People could come and go from Michigan to Wisconsin and Wisconsin to Michigan. From their house to a store, gas station or any other business that was still allowed to be open. And a Wisconsin or Illinois resident could legally drive right past your house on their way to their lake cottage which may be located right next door to your lake cottage. But you, as a Michigan resident couldn't. Ya, that is stupid!

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by jay @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 16:55 (35 days ago) @ Rigamarta
edited by jay, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 17:18

We could certainly debate the wisdom of the Michigan Governor's regulations barring Michiganders from visiting their Michigan properties Up North but that's a different argument. The issue here is whether Michigan had the legal authority to ban out-of-staters. Apparently they believed they could not. And yeah, the regulations here about differences in state residencies are pretty silly. It may be a quaint notion, but there are still people who believe in the rule of law. And it's clear that Michigan is simply following the law.

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by crumbster, Friday, October 23, 2020, 09:08 (34 days ago) @ jay

The right to travel is a part of the 'liberty' of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment.

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by midalake @, Friday, October 23, 2020, 09:57 (34 days ago) @ crumbster

The right to travel is a part of the 'liberty' of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment.

In an emergency you have the right to breathe and FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. Does not matter if the emergency is 5 minutes, 24 hours or 1 year.

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by nicatnit, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 09:26 (33 days ago) @ midalake

You’re perceived emergency doesn’t trump my liberty.

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by jay @, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 16:24 (33 days ago) @ nicatnit

I would think that every executive everywhere has special powers in an emergency. So what constitutes an emergency? Well apparently, according to the republican controlled Michigan legislature, that means virtually everything. For the last twenty years or so, they've declared almost every legislative proposal an emergency and thus bypassed debate for quick passage and implementation. Sometimes in the middle of the night. Like the hideous and extremely anti-democratic Emergency Manager law. And now they want to strip away Whitmer's sensible, life-saving, measures in a pandemic, which really is an emergency.

Emergency powers for me but not for thee.

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by nicatnit, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 09:25 (33 days ago) @ crumbster

Amen!

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by nicatnit, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 09:25 (33 days ago) @ jay

Michigan’s Governor tried to create her own laws. Michigan’s Legislature and Supreme Court said: NO!

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 10:35 (33 days ago) @ nicatnit

Michigan’s Governor tried to create her own laws. Michigan’s Legislature and Supreme Court said: NO!

No, she tried to do THE RIGHT THING to protect the PEOPLE of Michigan, but divisive politics including Michigan's Republican-stacked Supreme Court ruled AGAINST COMMON SENSE.

Proving once again that Republicans aren't "pro-life".

REPUBLICANS ARE HYPOCRITES!

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 17:37 (35 days ago) @ Rigamarta

Seriously? People could come and go from Michigan to Wisconsin and Wisconsin to Michigan. From their house to a store, gas station or any other business that was still allowed to be open. And a Wisconsin or Illinois resident could legally drive right past your house on their way to their lake cottage which may be located right next door to your lake cottage. But you, as a Michigan resident couldn't. Ya, that is stupid!

It's the same as each state having different gun laws and people from Chicago complaining about gun violence. Without national leadership, at best there's only a little confusion, at worst, well, we're seeing pretty much what the worst case scenario looks like because there are "believers" and "non-believers". Flat-earthers are alive and well and still voting conservative.

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by nicatnit, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 09:30 (33 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Like Gun laws have ever worked in Chicago. Must be those law abiding gang bangers buying there guns legally at all the gun shows in Indiana, yea right.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 10:28 (33 days ago) @ nicatnit

Like Gun laws have ever worked in Chicago. Must be those law abiding gang bangers buying there guns legally at all the gun shows in Indiana, yea right.

And as if right on cue comes the flat-earther response. Incredible.

When Chicago makes gun laws restricting the purchase and possession of firearms but its neighbors don't have the same laws, then Chicago's gun laws can't have the effect they are intended to have. We have the same problem here in Mexico where thanks to the incredibly lax gun laws in the USA, straw buyers manage to smuggle over a quarter million firearms a year into Mexico so violent organized criminals can supply U.S. citizens with recreational substances stupidly banned in their country. A win-win for the gringos but not for the Mexicans.

In Chicago, banning firearms easily acquired in neighboring states has the same effect and feeds the interests of police agencies who depend on bloated budgets while also making profits for the firearms industry. Another win-win for special interests but not for the people of Chicago.

It's not a matter of law enforcement but of bad and poorly applied laws. Gun control must be nationwide to work, and the 2nd Amendment is archaic and intentionally misinterpreted, but apparently a polarized, divided and dumbed down populace is incapable of fixing this and numerous other archaic, dysfunctional and broken laws and policies. Another symptom of the USA's heartbreaking decline.

It's extremely disappointing to see you treat the matter with so little comprehension.

More Good Guys with Concealed Guns = More Violent Crime

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by Rigamarta, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 10:33 (33 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

On the other hand it doesn't make sense to pass a law that isn't consistent with the surrounding states. You basically create yourself an Island.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 10:39 (33 days ago) @ Rigamarta

On the other hand it doesn't make sense to pass a law that isn't consistent with the surrounding states. You basically create yourself an Island.

Not a relevant argument. The city must look out for its own interests regardless of the surrounding communities. The point being that gun control must be nationwide, and the 2nd Amendment is an anachronism that must be annulled. The USA is the only nation in the world that doesn't get it.

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by Rigamarta, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 13:58 (33 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Venezuela got it, Hitler's Germany got it and look where they both ended up.

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by jay @, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 17:08 (33 days ago) @ Rigamarta

Venezuela's got serious problems but that's got nothing to do with gun ownership. And, as for the Hitler reference, I presume you're referring to the story about how he banned private gun ownership and thus greased the skids for totalitarianism and the Holocaust. Um, no. Private gun ownership was banned by the Weimar Republic after WW1, but Hitler restored gun ownership to everyone but Jews after he took power. Please get your history right. It's important.

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by Little Guy, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 17:13 (33 days ago) @ jay

Please get your history right. It's important.

History is only important to people who are interested in truth (with a small t). That truth (with a small t) is subject to correction.

Mythology is more important to people who are interested in their Truth (with a capital T). Then that Truth (with a capital T) is irrefutable because it is supported by their mythology.

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by Rigamarta, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 14:07 (33 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Let me see, exorbitant tax structure, on the brink of bankruptcy, record number of state and local politician jailed on federal charges, inner city crime and murder rate rate one of the highest in the nation. Gee, for the sake of continuity, why can't the other 49 state be just like Illinois?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 15:16 (33 days ago) @ Rigamarta

Let me see, exorbitant tax structure, on the brink of bankruptcy, record number of state and local politician jailed on federal charges, inner city crime and murder rate rate one of the highest in the nation. Gee, for the sake of continuity, why can't the other 49 state be just like Illinois?

I thought you were referring to the current U.S. president. The USA is seen by the rest of the world exactly as you just described a city criticized heavily by Faux Snooze. Got all their talking points and the NRA’s in your comments.

Thanks for that wonderful display of hypocrisy. It truly was comical.

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by midalake @, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 19:16 (33 days ago) @ Rigamarta
edited by midalake, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 22:14

Let me see, exorbitant tax structure, on the brink of bankruptcy, record number of state and local politician jailed on federal charges, inner city crime and murder rate rate one of the highest in the nation. Gee, for the sake of continuity, why can't the other 49 state be just like Illinois?

And just the other day you called me a blowhard for 1/5 of the puke you just wrote. LOL

GIDDY-UP, and COWBOY-UP.

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by Sunlight Dancer, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 02:37 (33 days ago) @ Rigamarta

Let me see, exorbitant tax structure, on the brink of bankruptcy, record number of state and local politician jailed on federal charges, inner city crime and murder rate rate one of the highest in the nation. Gee, for the sake of continuity, why can't the other 49 state be just like Illinois?

Unfortunately for you, there's always going to be a smart-ass like me who checks sweeping claims like the above.

Chicago comes in 16th for US cities with the highest per capita murder rate.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/

Illinois comes in 9th for highest tax structure s.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494

Illinois doesn't even crack the top five states with the most convicted public officials. The top ten winners are:
# convicted
Florida 824
New York 704
Texas 565
Pennsylvania 555
California. 547
Ohio. 547
Illinois 502
New Jersey. 418
D.C. 380
Louisiana 332

Source: Washington Post

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by midalake @, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 08:04 (32 days ago) @ Sunlight Dancer

Let me see, exorbitant tax structure, on the brink of bankruptcy, record number of state and local politician jailed on federal charges, inner city crime and murder rate rate one of the highest in the nation. Gee, for the sake of continuity, why can't the other 49 state be just like Illinois?


Unfortunately for you, there's always going to be a smart-ass like me who checks sweeping claims like the above.

Chicago comes in 16th for US cities with the highest per capita murder rate.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/

Illinois comes in 9th for highest tax structure s.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494

Illinois doesn't even crack the top five states with the most convicted public officials. The top ten winners are:
# convicted
Florida 824
New York 704
Texas 565
Pennsylvania 555
California. 547
Ohio. 547
Illinois 502
New Jersey. 418
D.C. 380
Louisiana 332

Source: Washington Post

Red States are #1 and #3 for most convicted public officials. LOL, Rigamarta is not going to like being up-staged by a woman. Nor his beloved RED CULT being #1 & #3.

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by Sunlight Dancer, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 21:10 (32 days ago) @ midalake

Red States are #1 and #3 for most convicted public officials. LOL, Rigamarta is not going to like being up-staged by a woman. Nor his beloved RED CULT being #1 &

In the world where I've held my own for many decades, my observation is that only men and children are permitted to make emotional arguments and don't expect to get called on bulls#it.

Women work harder. We do our research before we go in for the kill. ;>D

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by nicatnit, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 09:15 (32 days ago) @ Sunlight Dancer

That your source is the Washington Post says all I need to know about you. Chicago is a hell hole, that needs to be bailed out like so many big cities in the US. New York is even worse

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 11:52 (32 days ago) @ nicatnit

That your source is the Washington Post says all I need to know about you. Chicago is a hell hole, that needs to be bailed out like so many big cities in the US. New York is even worse

When I changed the subject to "Flat-earthers" I knew the Chumpanzees would home in on this like moths to a flame. Here's where you get burnt.

REAL NEWS as opposed to your Faux Snooze. If you can't even admit The Washington Post is one of the most RESPECTED news sources in the world, unlike your Faux Snooze, then you are living in a bubble outside reality like most other Chumpanzees. Yes, they helped take down Nixon and they've helped expose the numerous crimes your cult leader and his cronies have committed. Currently the big news is the VOTER SUPPRESSION by your HYPOCRITE REPUBLICAN Red States. Not in over 200 years have we seen anything like this, yet still the good citizens are waiting 12 hours in line to vote in Texas, Florida, Georgia and other Red States. This will be the largest turnout ever, and you and your fellow Chumpanzees either have some humble pie to eat or enjoy being ostracized by the rest of us. Frankly, I have no use for Chumpanzees at this point. You had your chance to do the right thing when he made fun of the handicapped, insulted war heroes, insulted veterans, insulted Mexicans, insulted the entire U.S. intelligence service, and a long list of etcetera. Over 25,000 LIES and counting! You've proven yourselves to be quite defective human beings and undeserving citizens, way beyond the pale.

Bailed out? You mean because Republicans in Congress are intentionally denying aid to poor citizens and Blue States to drive them broke while enriching their sponsors, themselves and their pals? You don't get to close down the economies of individuals and states then drive them to bankruptcy by denying them aid while doing everything possible to put an anti-choice ultra-conservative on the Supreme Court DURING AN ELECTION against the wishes of 70% of the electorate after denying President Obama a VOTE on his nomination for a year. HYPOCRITES deserve no respect, and they certainly have no moral authority to criticize anyone else for anything, period.

This is the second day this week I've awakened to see you've crapped all over my Message Board again with your pathetic Chumpanzee nonsense. Three strikes and you're OUT.

TIK TOK 9 more days MoFo!

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by nicatnit, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 12:39 (32 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I guess I’ll just wait until the day after the election to climb out from under my rock. At least I’ll be in Ixtapa when it happens. Do you have a prediction? Like I couldn’t already guess, but be specific about how you think the election will turn out.

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by Quadra Paul @, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 13:54 (32 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

My suggestion is to throw him the spitball! The latest is that the GOP have people filming voters trying to deposit their ballots in drop boxes all the while yelling and trying to intimidate them. They say they are getting evidence of voter fraud because some people are delivering more than one ballot! Horse Puckey!

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by nicatnit, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 21:32 (32 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I see you called me a MO-FO? Did I comprehend that correctly? Or am I just stupid? Instead just refer to me like Joe Biden did yesterday: CHUMPS FOR TRUMP! . I’m getting a shirt printed so there will be no mistaking my support for the best president this century.

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by midalake @, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 22:16 (32 days ago) @ nicatnit

I see you called me a MO-FO? Did I comprehend that correctly? Or am I just stupid? Instead just refer to me like Joe Biden did yesterday: CHUMPS FOR TRUMP! . I’m getting a shirt printed so there will be no mistaking my support for the best president this century.


I have my "Dotard 45" shirt which I regularly ware. It indicates the worst president of my lifetime and possibly in the history of the United States. So your point is?

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by Ann and Chris, Monday, October 26, 2020, 17:33 (31 days ago) @ midalake

Maybe find a less offensive shirt to express your dislike of Trump. Thats terribly hurtful to many people.

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by midalake @, Monday, October 26, 2020, 18:48 (31 days ago) @ Ann and Chris
edited by midalake, Monday, October 26, 2020, 18:56

Maybe find a less offensive shirt to express your dislike of Trump. Thats terribly hurtful to many people.

NO DOUBT there are Dotards everywhere that are offended by Trump. Oh how I could wear much worse.
I am with Kim Jong Un on this one, unless you really think we "turned the corner" on COVID.
If your offices get closed again, thank Trump, if someone you know dies, thank Trump. My heart goes out to all the Americans who have had loved ones ripped from their hands by the actions of the worst leader this country EVER HAD!
Like Rob said and since you have a business in Michigan maybe you can denounce Trumps actions which has put our Governor of Michigan in peril.

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by Ann and Chris, Monday, October 26, 2020, 19:23 (31 days ago) @ midalake

I'm not arguing Trump. Wearing a shirt that uses "Tard" in it to express someones lack of intelligence is offensive. If you can't see that it says a lot more about you .

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, October 26, 2020, 19:43 (31 days ago) @ Ann and Chris

Time for English 101. “Dotard” is an actual word. To save you the trouble looking it up, it means “elderly person who is frail of body and/or mind. If your objection is to the second syllable, I trust you never use musTARD on your sandwiches. You would never have flan, since it is a cusTARD. When exercising you would never wear a uniTARD. When dancing you could never wear a leoTARD. When playing music, you could never slow down or riTARD. There are tons more. Bottom line, “dotard” is an actual word and actually describes Trump well.

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by Sunlight Dancer, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 20:53 (32 days ago) @ nicatnit

That your source is the Washington Post says all I need to know about you. Chicago is a hell hole, that needs to be bailed out like so many big cities in the US. New York is even worse

So, prove me wrong.

It's not difficult to substantiate a valid argument with reputable citations and sources. It took me less than 5 minutes.

Have at it.

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by nicatnit, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 21:07 (32 days ago) @ Sunlight Dancer

That’s my opinion. How’s that?

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by jay @, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 21:23 (32 days ago) @ nicatnit

That’s my opinion. How’s that?

Except that upthread you stated it as fact, not opinion. If you are called out on it you should man up and cite sources, or admit you're wrong. That's what mature adults do.

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by Ironwood @, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 12:17 (33 days ago) @ Rigamarta

On the other hand it doesn't make sense to pass a law that isn't consistent with the surrounding states. You basically create yourself an Island.

.....and states being forced to compete with their backward neighbouring states results in a race to the bottom for all. Great system.

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by nicatnit, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 09:06 (32 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I comprehend this issue very well, thank you. I see gun control works so well in Mexico since the cartels don’t have any guns.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 12:12 (32 days ago) @ nicatnit

I comprehend this issue very well, thank you. I see gun control works so well in Mexico since the cartels don’t have any guns.

No, you don't.

Gun control in Mexico would be working fine if we weren't neighbors to the largest supplier of weapons on the planet, knowingly selling over a QUARTER MILLION FIREARMS A YEAR to straw buyers for violent organized criminals who smuggle them effortlessly into Mexico. Mexicans don't want firearms, they want neighbors who don't arm Mexico's criminals with .50 cal Barretts, AK-47s, AR-15s and a long etcetera.

Practically the same week the U.S. government stupidly allowed the ban on assault-type weapons to expire Mexico's police began getting ambushed by criminals with .50 cal Barretts. That's why there is now a high wall around our police station, and the police module at the southern entrance to town had to be abandoned.

So don't pretend to know anything about gun control because the USA has never practiced it but instead has always accepted money from criminals and dictators for weapons. HYPOCRITES!

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by jay @, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 17:44 (33 days ago) @ nicatnit

Like Gun laws have ever worked in Chicago. Must be those law abiding gang bangers buying there guns legally at all the gun shows in Indiana, yea right.


I'm confused, and maybe you could help me out. If teachers and postal workers and mall clerks are all packing, then that should be a strong deterrent to any mass shooters. Right? But by that logic, wouldn't any stray Canadian whackjob be salivating over the prospect of shooting up completely undefended Canadian schools and post offices and McDonalds? Wouldn't that mean far more mass killings in Canada than here in the gun-toting US?

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by nicatnit, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 09:21 (32 days ago) @ jay

Wack jobs will always figure out a way to wreak havoc. And you can’t stop it no matter how you try. But I value the right to defend myself. Pretty simple.

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by nicatnit, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 09:23 (33 days ago) @ Rigamarta

Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

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by nicatnit, Saturday, October 24, 2020, 09:22 (33 days ago) @ jay

It was 100% Stupid. Heil Whitmer

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by laurita @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 09:49 (35 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

So hotels on La Ropa like Bungalows Vepao and Casa Gloria aren’t allowed to put chairs under their beach palapa? Where are their guest supposed to sit on the beach?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 10:37 (35 days ago) @ laurita

So hotels on La Ropa like Bungalows Vepao and Casa Gloria aren’t allowed to put chairs under their beach palapa? Where are their guest supposed to sit on the beach?

You can use a petate and a towel like I used to when I was still a beach person.

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by Ironwood @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 15:23 (35 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

So hotels on La Ropa like Bungalows Vepao and Casa Gloria aren’t allowed to put chairs under their beach palapa? Where are their guest supposed to sit on the beach?


You can use a petate and a towel like I used to when I was still a beach person.

This gets more confusing by the day.
Google Translate says "petate" is "duffle bag"....so, a beachbag. In Zihua's blistering sun, no umbrella effectively means no sitting on the beach for more than a few minutes.
We can live with that, since we patronize Paty's, La Cantinita, La Perla, Rossy, lunch at Embarc, El Pirata, etc. Under normal circumstances, one can sit for hours at any of these establishments....and we do.....either eating or drinking at their tables, or using their lounge chairs and umbrellas, usually both.
I get that personal umbrellas and beach chairs are apparently prohibited on La Ropa. But if the usual restaurant-owned lounge chairs and umbrellas have been removed, that in itself would be reason enough for us to wait 'til next year.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 16:10 (35 days ago) @ Ironwood

La Cantinita is no more.

There are no rental chairs/umbrellas on Playa la Ropa at this time. The restaurants are limited as to the number of tables with umbrellas that they can have.

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by Ironwood @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 16:29 (35 days ago) @ Talley Ho

La Cantinita is no more.

There are no rental chairs/umbrellas on Playa la Ropa at this time. The restaurants are limited as to the number of tables with umbrellas that they can have.

I wasn't referring to rental chairs/umbrellas...La Perla being the only place we've patronized that does charge a rental, (and for which we have never paid, out of principle).
We are beach-people....specifically La Ropa. Our usual haunt is Paty's, 5 or 6 days/week. We also regularly spend the day at Playa Larga, but seldom more than once a week, since it's more expensive to get to and back. Again, if we thought that Paty's is not "business as usual", we definitely won't be coming. As we approach "decision crunch time" in a month or two, I'll again be asking for an update on Paty's et al.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 16:39 (35 days ago) @ Ironwood

We had lunch at Paty's on Thursday, we sat up in the patio area under a fan. There were a couple of tables on the sand. That is it for now.

Hopefully things will ease up.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 17:50 (35 days ago) @ Ironwood

So hotels on La Ropa like Bungalows Vepao and Casa Gloria aren’t allowed to put chairs under their beach palapa? Where are their guest supposed to sit on the beach?


You can use a petate and a towel like I used to when I was still a beach person.


This gets more confusing by the day.
Google Translate says "petate" is "duffle bag"....so, a beachbag. In Zihua's blistering sun, no umbrella effectively means no sitting on the beach for more than a few minutes.
We can live with that, since we patronize Paty's, La Cantinita, La Perla, Rossy, lunch at Embarc, El Pirata, etc. Under normal circumstances, one can sit for hours at any of these establishments....and we do.....either eating or drinking at their tables, or using their lounge chairs and umbrellas, usually both.
I get that personal umbrellas and beach chairs are apparently prohibited on La Ropa. But if the usual restaurant-owned lounge chairs and umbrellas have been removed, that in itself would be reason enough for us to wait 'til next year.

You're kidding, right? Google translate? :snicker:

I'm pretty sure this info is already somewhere here in my website. But maybe you've heard of a little town called Petatlán? We used to be part of their municipio and they were the largest town in the region. In Nahuatl "tlán" means "place" and "petate" is a woven mat made of dried reeds. Petatlán was the place for petates long before Europeans ever set foot here. You see them used as floormats and wall coverings here. Not that long ago many of Zihuatanejo's residents and visitors used petates under their beach towels or blankets. You can roll them up and carry them easily.

Need shade? Find a tree!

Look ma! No chairs or umbrellas!
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by Ironwood @, Friday, October 23, 2020, 17:19 (34 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

You're kidding, right? Google translate? :snicker:

I'm pretty sure this info is already somewhere here in my website. But maybe you've heard of a little town called Petatlán? We used to be part of their municipio and they were the largest town in the region. In Nahuatl "tlán" means "place" and "petate" is a woven mat made of dried reeds. Petatlán was the place for petates long before Europeans ever set foot here. You see them used as floormats and wall coverings here. Not that long ago many of Zihuatanejo's residents and visitors used petates under their beach towels or blankets. You can roll them up and carry them easily.

Need shade? Find a tree!

I got the translation from the feature on YOUR home page, so on behalf of Google, I apologize for their translation of "duffel bag" for "petate", and for my ignorance in not recognizing the "Petat" in Petatlan.
Shade on La Ropa is almost non-existent. We're in our mid-70s: our "hunkering-down" days are 15 years in the rearview window. No umbrellas and lounge chairs on the sand at Paty's? We stay home.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 12:46 (35 days ago) @ laurita

Vepao and Casa Gloria have two chairs, separated under each of their beach palapas.

You are stopped if you attempt to enter Playa la Ropa with chairs and/or a beach umbrella.

We are curious as to what will happen to last year's Sotovento Beach Club, if they attempt to open it.

The "Blue Flag Beach" is a very small part of Playa la Ropa, from the mercadito between The Thompson and Villa Mexicana going north to the end of the beach.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 13:25 (35 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Vepao and Casa Gloria have two chairs, separated under each of their beach palapas.

You are stopped if you attempt to enter Playa la Ropa with chairs and/or a beach umbrella.

We are curious as to what will happen to last year's Sotovento Beach Club, if they attempt to open it.

The "Blue Flag Beach" is a very small part of Playa la Ropa, from the mercadito between The Thompson and Villa Mexicana going north to the end of the beach.

Even though it's only a small portion of the beach, they are applying the Blue Flag requirements to the entire beach as well as to Las Gatas. It is simply absurd. To date I have yet to find ONE SINGLE VISITOR who has visited us because of the Blue Flag, so whatever the government has spent on this foolishness simply hasn't paid off, but I have correspondence from dozens of people with the purchasing power we need, some who had property here who sold and moved away, others who have stopped coming because of the certification of Playas El Palmar and La Ropa. The government apparently doesn't care because they don't live from tourism, they just want the feather in their cap, the publicity, the kickbacks and to be able to dish out favors.

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by Leemr @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 17:22 (35 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob respond. What will happen if a single person (no social distancing to consider) attempts to take his folding chair and an umbrella onto the La Ropa beach? Who is there guarding and prohibiting it? Would they arrest you and haul you away if you attempted to bypass them and go anyway? Is it posted as such at the beach entrance? hmmmmm. . . . interesting! Maybe not legally enforceable? Thanks

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 17:59 (35 days ago) @ Leemr

Rob respond. What will happen if a single person (no social distancing to consider) attempts to take his folding chair and an umbrella onto the La Ropa beach? Who is there guarding and prohibiting it? Would they arrest you and haul you away if you attempted to bypass them and go anyway? Is it posted as such at the beach entrance? hmmmmm. . . . interesting! Maybe not legally enforceable? Thanks

Mexicans get hauled away by the police. No idea what would happen to a foreigner, but I bet if someone filmed it and put it on YouTube it would probably make the news.

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by Craig AKA the cruise ship guy @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 18:25 (35 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thanks for posting all of this. We are coming Saturday but had to change our flight back to a day later so need 1 extra night in a hotel. Was thinking about moving from Ixtapa to Zihuatanejo for the last night to see if we want to change it up for next year. Maybe we’ll just continue to stay Ixtapa and have dinners in Zihuatanejo. Too bad as we used to spend a lot of time on La Ropa and Las Gatas when our son traveled with us. Better this way for our taxi driver.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 19:29 (35 days ago) @ Leemr

When our light went officially to yellow, it was announced that hotels could use their lounge chairs if they were 3 meters apart. We are not currently officially on yellow.

We sunscreened up, grabbed our chairs and an umbrella and went to the end of our beach access between The Thompson and Villa Mexicana at the mercadito. We were prepared to walk through the disinfecting tunnel.

As we approached, the guy saw us coming and explained the no chairs no umbrella rule. We very politely told him about what we had read on Meganoticias. He made two phone calls, and explained that that was only for hotels, and that we were not yet able to bring out our own chairs and umbrella. We asked him to pursue that, he made another call, they said they would get back to him, and we thanked him, walked home and washed off the sunscreen.

We live here and are very visible on the beach in the mornings. He knew us by sight, was very nice, made phone calls and tried to get us on the beach.

We "know of someone" who is out there daily, and with a little trading, can now take his/her little non unicel ice chest to the beach and use a vendors chair and umbrella, serving as their translator. More power to him/her, we live here forever and don't want to do that. At least yet but it is tempting!!!!!

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by Quadra Paul @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 21:25 (35 days ago) @ Talley Ho

This is so much bullshit! Right up there with the blue flag/no dogs rule! We all know where this is coming from!

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 21:49 (35 days ago) @ Quadra Paul
edited by Talley Ho, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 22:08

Yes we do.

However, we are here, go to the beach, exercise our pets and ourselves for about three hours daily. We have to work with the system.

It may not be you, but when we are on the beach in the morning with our very welcome visitors, we do our best to work as intermediaries between the officials and the tourists, especially when there is a language gap.

We do our best to be a very positive presence in our paradise, especially for those with pets, but we do have to remain respectful and kind to everyone.

We try to act the same way no matter where we are.

Please be nice. We are trying to help.

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by Quadra Paul @, Friday, October 23, 2020, 12:28 (34 days ago) @ Talley Ho

I will most definitely be nice to you and yours! I've enjoyed reading your adventures. As for the people/person who caused all this to happen............ Not So Much!

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by pulleyman, Friday, October 23, 2020, 14:55 (34 days ago) @ Pacific Princess

Is La Madera beach regulated as well?

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by maggie, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 14:12 (32 days ago) @ pulleyman

Do you think La Ropa will be more open by mid December. Is it a fact that the hotels can't put out benches for their guests?? And if you can't bring your own chair or umbrella how do manage book reading beach time? I usually stay at the Catalina but I assume all hotels are following these regulations?
Also if anyone has travelled from Canada to Mexico recently I would appreciate your input about the experience, were you tested at the airport in Vancouver or in Zihua? I am in the risk demographic but I am very healthy, nevertheless
I want to be take all the necessary precautions to prevent me or anyone else getting ill. I suppose if I were really cautious I would avoid all travel until the vaccine arrives and or Spring. But I am going a tad squirrely and as winter rolls in I definitely feel like rolling out! Any and all info is appreciated.
Warmest regards,
M