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by Pacific Princess, West, Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 19:10 (659 days ago)

Are the vendors still working, selling on the beach? I remember hearing the laws for these folks were changing going forward at some time?? Hoping they are on the beach as we (tourists and others) plan our trips from Canada and US, but if the law changed, does it apply to all food, drinks like ice-creams, cheese and nuts as well as the local artifacts such as silver, carvings and bracelets (to name a few)??!!
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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 19:49 (659 days ago) @ Pacific Princess

They are still on the beach, in limited numbers because the beaches are restricted. You can go to the beach, you can sit on the beach, but you can't take your own chairs or umbrellas to the beach. Groups are limited to three, and masks are required to enter the beach. This is what is being enforced on Playa la Ropa.

We do our "morning" things, dogs, swim, paddle, early, so we are home by 9:30 ish. Normally we would spend many afternoons on the beach under our umbrella, watching the world. Now? We are so white skinned that if we were to go out without our umbrella, we would be fried in no time.

The vendors are out there when they can be. Those who do things like rent kayaks, banana rides and para sailing are allowed a chair for each employee and an umbrella. At least they don't have to fry!!!

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 20:03 (659 days ago) @ Talley Ho

The mask requirement on Playa la Ropa is NOT being enforced at the entrance to the beach where all the combis park and the giant buses let off the Mexican tourists at the parking lot. The tourist police just stand there and watch the Mexican families entering the beach w/out masks.

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by ZihuaRx @, Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 21:54 (659 days ago) @ Talley Ho

You can't take your own umbrella to the beach?

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by Rigamarta, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 08:03 (659 days ago) @ Talley Ho

And what would be the reasoning for not being allowed to bring your own chair?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 08:41 (659 days ago) @ Rigamarta

And what would be the reasoning for not being allowed to bring your own chair?

No problem on any other beach in Zihuatanejo. Take your chair or your petate. Take your umbrella. Take your non-styrofoam cooler (no glass bottles or jars). I get the impression whoever set the rules for La Ropa doesn't really know what they're doing and they're simply SIMULATING what they believe is their duty.Beginning with the stupid "certificación Blue Flag", a designation that may mean something to European travel agents but doesn't mean squat here in America. One would think we would know how to keep our beaches clean without having guidelines made up by people who aren't from here and who don't live here, but for a politician it looks good on their curriculum vitae and it gives them access to resources with which to pay political favors.

Apparently at La Ropa they only want you walking on the beach but sitting in one of the restaurants. Even hotels aren't allowed to put their own chairs out for their own guests. No such problem in Ixtapa or at any other beach in the region.

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by SunnySunnyTime @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 08:54 (659 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I'm having trouble understanding this - I can sit on La Ropa - a public beach - in the sand but I can't sit on La Ropa on my own portable beach chair? Or under my own umbrella which protects me from the sun?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 09:02 (659 days ago) @ SunnySunnyTime

I'm having trouble understanding this - I can sit on La Ropa - a public beach - in the sand but I can't sit on La Ropa on my own portable beach chair? Or under my own umbrella which protects me from the sun?

Yes. Utter stupidity. And you also can't bring your furry or feathered family members to the beach with you either because a certain influential person once stepped in doggie doo on the beach years ago because she wasn't watching where she was walking and the poor dear contracted an infection.

It's almost as if they don't want people at La Ropa Beach. I keep wondering why the local lodging operators put up with this. I can only guess false promises or false claims were made to some of them by certain influential people.

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by laurita @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 09:49 (659 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

So hotels on La Ropa like Bungalows Vepao and Casa Gloria aren’t allowed to put chairs under their beach palapa? Where are their guest supposed to sit on the beach?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 10:37 (659 days ago) @ laurita

So hotels on La Ropa like Bungalows Vepao and Casa Gloria aren’t allowed to put chairs under their beach palapa? Where are their guest supposed to sit on the beach?

You can use a petate and a towel like I used to when I was still a beach person.

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by Ironwood @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 15:23 (658 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

So hotels on La Ropa like Bungalows Vepao and Casa Gloria aren’t allowed to put chairs under their beach palapa? Where are their guest supposed to sit on the beach?


You can use a petate and a towel like I used to when I was still a beach person.

This gets more confusing by the day.
Google Translate says "petate" is "duffle bag"....so, a beachbag. In Zihua's blistering sun, no umbrella effectively means no sitting on the beach for more than a few minutes.
We can live with that, since we patronize Paty's, La Cantinita, La Perla, Rossy, lunch at Embarc, El Pirata, etc. Under normal circumstances, one can sit for hours at any of these establishments....and we do.....either eating or drinking at their tables, or using their lounge chairs and umbrellas, usually both.
I get that personal umbrellas and beach chairs are apparently prohibited on La Ropa. But if the usual restaurant-owned lounge chairs and umbrellas have been removed, that in itself would be reason enough for us to wait 'til next year.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 16:10 (658 days ago) @ Ironwood

La Cantinita is no more.

There are no rental chairs/umbrellas on Playa la Ropa at this time. The restaurants are limited as to the number of tables with umbrellas that they can have.

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by Ironwood @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 16:29 (658 days ago) @ Talley Ho

La Cantinita is no more.

There are no rental chairs/umbrellas on Playa la Ropa at this time. The restaurants are limited as to the number of tables with umbrellas that they can have.

I wasn't referring to rental chairs/umbrellas...La Perla being the only place we've patronized that does charge a rental, (and for which we have never paid, out of principle).
We are beach-people....specifically La Ropa. Our usual haunt is Paty's, 5 or 6 days/week. We also regularly spend the day at Playa Larga, but seldom more than once a week, since it's more expensive to get to and back. Again, if we thought that Paty's is not "business as usual", we definitely won't be coming. As we approach "decision crunch time" in a month or two, I'll again be asking for an update on Paty's et al.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 16:39 (658 days ago) @ Ironwood

We had lunch at Paty's on Thursday, we sat up in the patio area under a fan. There were a couple of tables on the sand. That is it for now.

Hopefully things will ease up.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 17:50 (658 days ago) @ Ironwood

So hotels on La Ropa like Bungalows Vepao and Casa Gloria aren’t allowed to put chairs under their beach palapa? Where are their guest supposed to sit on the beach?


You can use a petate and a towel like I used to when I was still a beach person.


This gets more confusing by the day.
Google Translate says "petate" is "duffle bag"....so, a beachbag. In Zihua's blistering sun, no umbrella effectively means no sitting on the beach for more than a few minutes.
We can live with that, since we patronize Paty's, La Cantinita, La Perla, Rossy, lunch at Embarc, El Pirata, etc. Under normal circumstances, one can sit for hours at any of these establishments....and we do.....either eating or drinking at their tables, or using their lounge chairs and umbrellas, usually both.
I get that personal umbrellas and beach chairs are apparently prohibited on La Ropa. But if the usual restaurant-owned lounge chairs and umbrellas have been removed, that in itself would be reason enough for us to wait 'til next year.

You're kidding, right? Google translate? :snicker:

I'm pretty sure this info is already somewhere here in my website. But maybe you've heard of a little town called Petatlán? We used to be part of their municipio and they were the largest town in the region. In Nahuatl "tlán" means "place" and "petate" is a woven mat made of dried reeds. Petatlán was the place for petates long before Europeans ever set foot here. You see them used as floormats and wall coverings here. Not that long ago many of Zihuatanejo's residents and visitors used petates under their beach towels or blankets. You can roll them up and carry them easily.

Need shade? Find a tree!

Look ma! No chairs or umbrellas!
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by Ironwood @, Friday, October 23, 2020, 17:19 (657 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

You're kidding, right? Google translate? :snicker:

I'm pretty sure this info is already somewhere here in my website. But maybe you've heard of a little town called Petatlán? We used to be part of their municipio and they were the largest town in the region. In Nahuatl "tlán" means "place" and "petate" is a woven mat made of dried reeds. Petatlán was the place for petates long before Europeans ever set foot here. You see them used as floormats and wall coverings here. Not that long ago many of Zihuatanejo's residents and visitors used petates under their beach towels or blankets. You can roll them up and carry them easily.

Need shade? Find a tree!

I got the translation from the feature on YOUR home page, so on behalf of Google, I apologize for their translation of "duffel bag" for "petate", and for my ignorance in not recognizing the "Petat" in Petatlan.
Shade on La Ropa is almost non-existent. We're in our mid-70s: our "hunkering-down" days are 15 years in the rearview window. No umbrellas and lounge chairs on the sand at Paty's? We stay home.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 12:46 (659 days ago) @ laurita

Vepao and Casa Gloria have two chairs, separated under each of their beach palapas.

You are stopped if you attempt to enter Playa la Ropa with chairs and/or a beach umbrella.

We are curious as to what will happen to last year's Sotovento Beach Club, if they attempt to open it.

The "Blue Flag Beach" is a very small part of Playa la Ropa, from the mercadito between The Thompson and Villa Mexicana going north to the end of the beach.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 13:25 (659 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Vepao and Casa Gloria have two chairs, separated under each of their beach palapas.

You are stopped if you attempt to enter Playa la Ropa with chairs and/or a beach umbrella.

We are curious as to what will happen to last year's Sotovento Beach Club, if they attempt to open it.

The "Blue Flag Beach" is a very small part of Playa la Ropa, from the mercadito between The Thompson and Villa Mexicana going north to the end of the beach.

Even though it's only a small portion of the beach, they are applying the Blue Flag requirements to the entire beach as well as to Las Gatas. It is simply absurd. To date I have yet to find ONE SINGLE VISITOR who has visited us because of the Blue Flag, so whatever the government has spent on this foolishness simply hasn't paid off, but I have correspondence from dozens of people with the purchasing power we need, some who had property here who sold and moved away, others who have stopped coming because of the certification of Playas El Palmar and La Ropa. The government apparently doesn't care because they don't live from tourism, they just want the feather in their cap, the publicity, the kickbacks and to be able to dish out favors.

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by Leemr @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 17:22 (658 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob respond. What will happen if a single person (no social distancing to consider) attempts to take his folding chair and an umbrella onto the La Ropa beach? Who is there guarding and prohibiting it? Would they arrest you and haul you away if you attempted to bypass them and go anyway? Is it posted as such at the beach entrance? hmmmmm. . . . interesting! Maybe not legally enforceable? Thanks

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 17:59 (658 days ago) @ Leemr

Rob respond. What will happen if a single person (no social distancing to consider) attempts to take his folding chair and an umbrella onto the La Ropa beach? Who is there guarding and prohibiting it? Would they arrest you and haul you away if you attempted to bypass them and go anyway? Is it posted as such at the beach entrance? hmmmmm. . . . interesting! Maybe not legally enforceable? Thanks

Mexicans get hauled away by the police. No idea what would happen to a foreigner, but I bet if someone filmed it and put it on YouTube it would probably make the news.

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by Craig AKA the cruise ship guy @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 18:25 (658 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thanks for posting all of this. We are coming Saturday but had to change our flight back to a day later so need 1 extra night in a hotel. Was thinking about moving from Ixtapa to Zihuatanejo for the last night to see if we want to change it up for next year. Maybe we’ll just continue to stay Ixtapa and have dinners in Zihuatanejo. Too bad as we used to spend a lot of time on La Ropa and Las Gatas when our son traveled with us. Better this way for our taxi driver.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 19:29 (658 days ago) @ Leemr

When our light went officially to yellow, it was announced that hotels could use their lounge chairs if they were 3 meters apart. We are not currently officially on yellow.

We sunscreened up, grabbed our chairs and an umbrella and went to the end of our beach access between The Thompson and Villa Mexicana at the mercadito. We were prepared to walk through the disinfecting tunnel.

As we approached, the guy saw us coming and explained the no chairs no umbrella rule. We very politely told him about what we had read on Meganoticias. He made two phone calls, and explained that that was only for hotels, and that we were not yet able to bring out our own chairs and umbrella. We asked him to pursue that, he made another call, they said they would get back to him, and we thanked him, walked home and washed off the sunscreen.

We live here and are very visible on the beach in the mornings. He knew us by sight, was very nice, made phone calls and tried to get us on the beach.

We "know of someone" who is out there daily, and with a little trading, can now take his/her little non unicel ice chest to the beach and use a vendors chair and umbrella, serving as their translator. More power to him/her, we live here forever and don't want to do that. At least yet but it is tempting!!!!!

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by Quadra Paul @, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 21:25 (658 days ago) @ Talley Ho

This is so much bullshit! Right up there with the blue flag/no dogs rule! We all know where this is coming from!

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 21:49 (658 days ago) @ Quadra Paul
edited by Talley Ho, Thursday, October 22, 2020, 22:08

Yes we do.

However, we are here, go to the beach, exercise our pets and ourselves for about three hours daily. We have to work with the system.

It may not be you, but when we are on the beach in the morning with our very welcome visitors, we do our best to work as intermediaries between the officials and the tourists, especially when there is a language gap.

We do our best to be a very positive presence in our paradise, especially for those with pets, but we do have to remain respectful and kind to everyone.

We try to act the same way no matter where we are.

Please be nice. We are trying to help.

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by Quadra Paul @, Friday, October 23, 2020, 12:28 (658 days ago) @ Talley Ho

I will most definitely be nice to you and yours! I've enjoyed reading your adventures. As for the people/person who caused all this to happen............ Not So Much!

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by pulleyman, Friday, October 23, 2020, 14:55 (658 days ago) @ Pacific Princess

Is La Madera beach regulated as well?

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by maggie, Sunday, October 25, 2020, 14:12 (655 days ago) @ pulleyman

Do you think La Ropa will be more open by mid December. Is it a fact that the hotels can't put out benches for their guests?? And if you can't bring your own chair or umbrella how do manage book reading beach time? I usually stay at the Catalina but I assume all hotels are following these regulations?
Also if anyone has travelled from Canada to Mexico recently I would appreciate your input about the experience, were you tested at the airport in Vancouver or in Zihua? I am in the risk demographic but I am very healthy, nevertheless
I want to be take all the necessary precautions to prevent me or anyone else getting ill. I suppose if I were really cautious I would avoid all travel until the vaccine arrives and or Spring. But I am going a tad squirrely and as winter rolls in I definitely feel like rolling out! Any and all info is appreciated.
Warmest regards,
M