What if you test positive?

by albuschhoff@gmail.com, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 10:14 (18 days ago)

Any suggestions as what to what a a departing visitor should do if he or she does test positive.? Are there rules or protocols in place?
I have no reason to think I will test positive BUT, forewarned is forearmed.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 11:37 (18 days ago) @ albuschhoff@gmail.com

Any suggestions as what to what a a departing visitor should do if he or she does test positive.? Are there rules or protocols in place?
I have no reason to think I will test positive BUT, forewarned is forearmed.

For starters, you won't be allowed on any plane. You will be asked by local authorities to quarantine yourself.

But if you've been following protocols including the strict adherence to wearing a facemask in public then you shouldn't have anything to worry about. I worry about the foreigners wandering our streets while not wearing facemasks. It only takes one of them to ruin the day for a lot of people.

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by Fly on the Wall, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 12:30 (18 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

2 days ago an individual arrived at Toronto and presented fraudulent negative Covid papers. Upon testing he was confirmed positive and taken to an authorized hotel for 2 weeks confinement . He will pay 3k for this accommodation. He was also charged with presenting fraudulent papers to Border agents and will appear in court in April

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 14:13 (18 days ago) @ Fly on the Wall

2 days ago an individual arrived at Toronto and presented fraudulent negative Covid papers. Upon testing he was confirmed positive and taken to an authorized hotel for 2 weeks confinement . He will pay 3k for this accommodation. He was also charged with presenting fraudulent papers to Border agents and will appear in court in April

I understand being charged with presenting fake papers, but having to pay the bill for enforced accommodations strikes me as being illegal.

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by Fly on the Wall, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 14:44 (18 days ago) @ frostbite

Apparently that only covers the first 3 days . The government picks up the rest. In Australia you may have to pay for the entire two weeks . I think most Canadians would say people who chose to travel in spite multiple warnings to the contrary should be paying for the entire stay especially if traveling with fraudulent Covid results. It will be interesting to see how his court appearance plays out.

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by victorio, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 15:22 (18 days ago) @ Fly on the Wall

Apparently that only covers the first 3 days . The government picks up the rest. In Australia you may have to pay for the entire two weeks . I think most Canadians would say people who chose to travel in spite multiple warnings to the contrary should be paying for the entire stay especially if traveling with fraudulent Covid results. It will be interesting to see how his court appearance plays out.

Hola. What about us Canadians who left Canada in October before any of these restrictions were in place? We had no warning these conditions would be placed on us. When they were imposed, we couldn't get home because all the flights were cancelled. The only restriction for us on our return was that we had to quarantine for 14 days.

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by Fly on the Wall, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 16:04 (18 days ago) @ victorio

Last March , Trudeau advised traveling Canadians to get home ASAP . We left our condo much sooner than we had planned The message has been consistent since then ...don’t travel. . If you were reading the Can papers you could see this was coming . You traveled in spite of the warnings ,The fact that restrictions changed , as Covid infections and deaths climbed should not come as a surprise to you . Will there be more changes .....undoubtedly, especially in light of the new variations of this virus.

Am I sympathetic to your plight...no. Do I think most Canadians will sympathize with you .....another no . If you own a place in Ixtapa as I do , my recommendation would be to start planning on how you are going to cover off such items as maintenance fees, taxes, trust fees CFE etc in the future, as I don’t see traveling getting any easier for the next year or.......

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by victorio, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 18:19 (18 days ago) @ Fly on the Wall

Last March , Trudeau advised traveling Canadians to get home ASAP . We left our condo much sooner than we had planned The message has been consistent since then ...don’t travel. . If you were reading the Can papers you could see this was coming . You traveled in spite of the warnings ,The fact that restrictions changed , as Covid infections and deaths climbed should not come as a surprise to you . Will there be more changes .....undoubtedly, especially in light of the new variations of this virus.

Am I sympathetic to your plight...no. Do I think most Canadians will sympathize with you .....another no . If you own a place in Ixtapa as I do , my recommendation would be to start planning on how you are going to cover off such items as maintenance fees, taxes, trust fees CFE etc in the future, as I don’t see traveling getting any easier for the next year or.......

Hola. Your comments are so full of bs and presumptions that they are not worthy of a response.

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by The Fez ⌂ @, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 22:36 (18 days ago) @ victorio

The main gist of the comments to you were highly accurate. Ever since last March Canadians were advised to avoid non-essential travel. Back then, the goal posts were moving dynamically as health professionals learned more about the virus, death tolls rose, and spread via travel of new variants increased. If you were comfortable with volatility and decided to travel anyways, the reality is that government policy might change in response to the situation and you might be out of luck. The lesson is that an emergency doesn't provide a lot of warning, much like hiking an active volcano. You know that there's a risk and that you might be in the wrong place at the wrong time, but that could have been avoided by staying away in the first place. And if you don't get the sympathy that you think that you deserve, well that might be a bit too much for some folks to offer, I guess.

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by victorio, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 22:55 (18 days ago) @ The Fez
edited by victorio, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 23:26

Hola
You and I differ on our interpretations of the comments posted. I stick with my posts.
PS I am not looking for sympathy.

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by Bonnie @, wherever you go, there you are..., Friday, February 12, 2021, 08:42 (17 days ago) @ victorio

well that appears to be true - you aren't looking for sympathy. But you are whining - huge difference....

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by Little Guy, Friday, February 12, 2021, 23:11 (17 days ago) @ victorio

Hola. What about us Canadians who left Canada in October before any of these restrictions were in place? We had no warning these conditions would be placed on us. When they were imposed, we couldn't get home because all the flights were cancelled. The only restriction for us on our return was that we had to quarantine for 14 days.

We have had plenty of time to make plans.

“Air travellers landing in Canada will have to quarantine in a hotel, at their own expense, starting Feb. 22, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Friday, as the federal government tries to curb the spread of the new, more transmissible variants of the COVID-19 virus. 

“The enforcement date comes two weeks after the federal government said air travellers returning from non-essential trips abroad will have to isolate in a federally mandated facility for up to 72 hours while they await the results of a polymerase chain reaction test, commonly known as a PCR test.”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/travel-restictions-border-1.5911845

I travelled to Zihuatanejo from Canadá in October/December 2020. When I left, I knew I was taking a risk. I did a risk:benefit assessment and experienced the consequences.

I plan to do the same in 2021. Canadians in Mexico have had lots of opportunities to do risk management.

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by Casa Juan @, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 13:19 (18 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Yesterday while walking on Benito Juarez in the early afternoon it appeared there is an obvious lack of concern among many about wearing face masks in public.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 13:43 (18 days ago) @ Casa Juan

Yesterday while walking on Benito Juarez in the early afternoon it appeared there is an obvious lack of concern among many about wearing face masks in public.

So we're supposed to overlook visiting foreigners? Not getting the point of your comment. Yes, I believe we all know there are locals who aren't wearing facemasks, BUT MOST ARE, often at great sacrifice since we don't have any income at the moment to purchase them, which makes seeing vacationing and retired foreigners from the USA and Canada not wearing them seem even more disrespectful.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, February 12, 2021, 12:40 (17 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Any suggestions as what to what a a departing visitor should do if he or she does test positive.? Are there rules or protocols in place?
I have no reason to think I will test positive BUT, forewarned is forearmed.


For starters, you won't be allowed on any plane. You will be asked by local authorities to quarantine yourself.

But if you've been following protocols including the strict adherence to wearing a facemask in public then you shouldn't have anything to worry about. I worry about the foreigners wandering our streets while not wearing facemasks. It only takes one of them to ruin the day for a lot of people.

Also, if you are quarantined, you will be responsible for having a place to stay. The government won't place you anywhere. Luckily it's warm enough here that you could string up a hammock between two trees and call it home for a few days if necessary. ;-)

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by catlover, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 16:57 (18 days ago) @ albuschhoff@gmail.com
edited by catlover, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 19:24

LOL, Well there go, ask a good question, and a bunch of Einsteins chime in without giving you a straight answer.

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by Robbob @, Bonney Lake, Washington, Thursday, February 11, 2021, 17:34 (18 days ago) @ albuschhoff@gmail.com

Excellent question! I have wondered about the same thing and have been hoping for some clarification. Let me restate the question to see if it is possible to get back on topic and get an on-topic answer! Although I do enjoy the off-topic verbal sparring!

If after religiously following the mask requirements in Zihua, as well as social distancing and hand sanitation, I test positive (maybe a false positive!) shortly before my scheduled departure from Zihua, what then? Are there any Mexico Federal or State government prescribed protocols one must follow?

I understand I will not be allowed on the plane...but for how long? Is there a prescribed timeframe I must quarantine or just until I receive a negative test. Also, where will I be required to stay in Zihua while I am positive...the hotel I just checked out of, a government prescribed facility, or ???. Must I stay in my hotel room and eat all of my meals there?

I know the departure test is a US or Canadian government requirement, so I suspect there is no Mexico protocol. If we test positive we are probably on our own until we can test negative.

All on topic responses greatly appreciated! ;-)

Another Rob

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by Pam in NJ ⌂ @, Morristown, NJ, Thursday, February 25, 2021, 07:08 (4 days ago) @ albuschhoff@gmail.com

This is why you shouldn't wait to get tested at the airport, 3 hours before your flight....for what....to save $50? Get a rapid test 72 hours before your departure. This way you have time to figure out what you need to do.

Before renting a room at a guest house or hotel, find out what their protocols are should a guest test positive and need to quarantine for 10 days. The place you are staying could be the only back up plan.