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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, July 19, 2021, 13:54 (63 days ago)

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International flights carrying passengers will be permitted to land at five additional Canadian airports

July 19, 2021 | Ottawa | Public Health Agency of Canada

The Government of Canada is prioritizing the health and safety of everyone in Canada by taking a risk-based and measured approach to re-opening our borders. Thanks to the hard work of Canadians, rising vaccination rates and declining COVID-19 cases, the Government of Canada is able to move forward with adjusted border measures.

On September 7, 2021, provided that the domestic epidemiologic situation remains favourable, the Government intends to open Canada’s borders to any fully vaccinated travellers who have completed the full course of vaccination with a Government of Canada-accepted vaccine at least 14 days prior to entering Canada and who meet specific entry requirements.

As a first step, starting August 9, 2021, Canada plans to begin allowing entry to American citizens and permanent residents, who are currently residing in the United States, and have been fully vaccinated at least 14 days prior to entering Canada for non-essential travel. This preliminary step allows for the Government of Canada to fully operationalize the adjusted border measures ahead of September 7, 2021, and recognizes the many close ties between Canadians and Americans.

Subject to limited exceptions, all travellers must use ArriveCAN (app or web portal) to submit their travel information. If they are eligible to enter Canada and meet specific criteria, fully vaccinated travellers will not have to quarantine upon arrival in Canada.

To further support these new measures, Transport Canada is expanding the scope of the existing Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) that currently directs scheduled international commercial passenger flights into four Canadian Airports: Montréal-Trudeau International Airport, Toronto Pearson International Airport, Calgary International Airport, and Vancouver International Airport.

Effective August 9, 2021, international flights carrying passengers will be permitted to land at the following five additional Canadian airports:

Halifax Stanfield International Airport;
Québec City Jean Lesage International Airport;
Ottawa Macdonald–Cartier International Airport;
Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport; and
Edmonton International Airport.
These airports, in cooperation with the Public Health Agency of Canada, the Canada Border Services Agency and Transport Canada, are working to implement the measures necessary to safely welcome international passengers as soon as possible after August 9, as conditions dictate.

All travellers, regardless of vaccination status, will still require a pre-entry COVID-19 molecular test result. However effective August 9, 2021, the Government of Canada is adjusting its post-arrival testing strategy for fully vaccinated travellers. Using a new border testing surveillance program at airports and land border crossings, fully vaccinated travellers will not need a post-arrival test unless they have been randomly selected to complete a Day 1 COVID-19 molecular test. There are no changes to the mandatory testing requirements for unvaccinated travellers.

This strategy allows the Government of Canada to continue monitoring variants of concern in Canada and vaccine effectiveness. Using these layers of protection, the Government of Canada can monitor the COVID-19 situation in Canada, respond quickly to threats, and guide decisions on restricting international travel.

Finally, with the advent of increased vaccination rates in Canada, declining COVID-19 cases and reduced pressure on health care capacity, the three-night government authorized hotel stay requirement will be eliminated for all travellers arriving by air as of 12:01 A.M. EDT on August 9. Fully vaccinated travellers who meet the requirements will be exempt from quarantine; however, all travellers must still provide a quarantine plan and be prepared to quarantine, in case it is determined at the border that they do not meet the necessary requirements.

While Canada continues to trend in the right direction, the epidemiological situation and vaccination coverage is not the same around the world. The Government of Canada continues to advise Canadians to avoid non-essential travel outside of Canada – international travel increases your risk of exposure to COVID-19 and its variants, as well as of spreading it to others. Border measures also remain subject to change as the epidemiological situation evolves. As Canada looks to welcome fully vaccinated travellers from the U.S., the federal government will continue to monitor the situation and provide updated travel advice to Canadians.

and the list of accepted tests

by Ironwood @, Monday, July 19, 2021, 15:55 (63 days ago) @ Talley Ho

These tests are considered acceptable molecular tests:

-PCR - Polymerase chain reaction
-RT-PCR – reverse transcription real time PCR
-Quantitative PCR (qPCR)
-Nucleic acid test (NAT) or Nucleic acid amplification test (NAATs)
-Reverse transcription loop-mediated isothermal amplification (RT-LAMP)
-Isothermal amplification
-Droplet digital PCR or digital droplet PCR (ddPCR)
-Transcription-mediated amplification (TMA)
-RNA (Ribonucleic acid)
-Ct (cycle threshold)
-CRISPR
-Sequencing
-Next generational sequencing (NGS) or whole genome sequencing (WGS)
-Oxford Nanopore sequencing (LamPORE)
-Detection of the N gene
-Detection of Orf1a/b
-Detection of the S gene
-Detection of the E gene
-Detection of the RdRp gene

These tests use methods such as a nasopharyngeal (NP) swab, nose swab, or saliva sample. At this time, proof of having a vaccine will not replace a negative test result.

Antigen tests are not acceptable.

(All of which seems to be designed to encourage Canadians like us to stay home)

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by ZihuaRx @, Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 11:43 (61 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Yet no international flights into Saskatchewan. Hope you two are well.

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by Ironwood @, Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:29 (61 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

The US government today announced that the land border with Canada will remain closed for all non-essential travel until at least 21 August/21.

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by Quadra Paul @, Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:04 (61 days ago) @ Ironwood

Only one way. Canada is accepting entries from the US as of Aug.9th. You must have proof of being fully vaccinated as well as testing negative 72 hr before arrival!

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by Ironwood @, Sunday, July 25, 2021, 19:15 (57 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

Only one way. Canada is accepting entries from the US as of Aug.9th. You must have proof of being fully vaccinated as well as testing negative 72 hr before arrival!

As I said, the US Government has decided to continue with their closure of their border with Canada. The US has no control over what Canada does or doesn't do.

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by ZihuaRx @, Monday, July 26, 2021, 16:57 (56 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

Unless of course you arrive by air.

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by Ironwood @, Monday, July 26, 2021, 22:35 (55 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

Unless of course you arrive by air.

Your response is a little confusing....not sure who it's directed to. If you are arriving in Canada by air, you have to show proof of a negative PCR-type COVID test within the past 72 hours.

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by ZihuaRx @, Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 00:22 (55 days ago) @ Ironwood

If one arrives by air one doesn't have to be fully vaccinated.

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by Quadra Paul @, Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 11:30 (55 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

The announcement said that you had to be fully vaccinated as well as tested within the last 72 hr!

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by victorio, Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 12:56 (55 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

Hola. It is my understanding that if one is fully vaccinated with a Canadian government approved vaccine and have a PCR test with negative results within 72 hours of arriving, Canadian citizens can skip the 3 day quarantine hotel stay and fourteen day home quarantine period. You still have to do another PCR test on arrival. You simply wait at your home or place where you are staying for the results , usually a couple of days, and, if it is negative , you are free from quarantine. We will be going through this next week. Will post if something is different.

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by ZihuaRx @, Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 13:59 (55 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

Putting an exclamation mark at the end of a sentence or printing in all capital letters doesn't make it true. All travellers, regardless of vaccination status, will still require a pre-entry COVID-19 molecular test result. However effective August 9, 2021, the Government of Canada is adjusting its post-arrival testing strategy for fully vaccinated travellers. Using a new border testing surveillance program at airports and land border crossings, fully vaccinated travellers will not need a post-arrival test unless they have been randomly selected to complete a Day 1 COVID-19 molecular test. There are no changes to the mandatory testing requirements for unvaccinated travellers.
MEANING THAT YOU CAN FLY IN UNVACCINATED, BUT HAVE TO QUARANTINE. YOU CANNOT DRIVE IN IF NOT VACCINATED!!;-)

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 15:01 (55 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

A friend and I, fully vaccinated, want to fly a private aircraft from the Lower 48, across Canada to Alaska in the fall. This will require a couple of stops for fuel. Any idea what kind of regulations we'd be subjected to?

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by ZihuaRx @, Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 17:49 (55 days ago) @ frostbite

Wow, that will be a cool trip. Just my opinion here, but I would wait until about mid August and contact the airports where you plan to land. I don't think there will be a problem. Lately more people in Canada are dying by car accidents, suicide or drug overdoses than covid. Covid daily deaths in Canada working back are 6, 3, 5, 13, 14, 4, 0, 9, 7, 3, 16, 15, 8, 12, 2, 8 and 9. I sure hope you can make the trip. Another suggestion would be to stay in each town you land in for a couple of nights and spend a lot of that american coin you have...we could use it. Safe travels and I hope you have a great trip!

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 20:37 (55 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

Hugs and kisses.

Things here right now??? Our opinion. If you are under 40, you have it or are going to have it very soon. The vaccinations are great, but variants got here first. Vaccinations for everyone are coming soon.

Both our maid and gardener are face down, at home, separate people, 27 and 39, and we are paying them while they are sick. The world continues to function, those that are actually vaccinated are wearing masks and being "careful." Those that aren't are being non politically whatever they are.

So, what can we do??? Talk to everyone, of course in Spanish, and make sure that they all know that the vaccinations are important and to get them.

We have a friend who has had the same maid for many many years. She is 64 and got her first shot a couple of weeks ago. It made her feel bad so she is not planning to get the second one. This is where it is important for EVERYONE to work on public education.

Positive thinking, positive education. Talk to everyone, it can't hurt!

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 06:09 (54 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

I was told that people were allowed to drive through Canada to Alaska, but were not allowed to spend nights in hotels on the way. I would assume that there is/was a similar rule for pilots. No idea whom one would call at airports. There must be some official site to contact.

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by ZihuaRx @, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 08:44 (54 days ago) @ frostbite

Yes, I have been trying to help you out by looking at the website...pretty confusing. At one time (last summer before vaccines) Americans were able to drive through to Alaska with only "necessary" stops along the way including hotels. I believe that was stopped last summer after catching some Americans holidaying in the Banff area of Alberta and a group at a northern fishing camp in Saskatchewan. The government has added 5 additional airports to land (none in Saskatchewan of course). Maybe one has to land at YVR first and then is good to go? It's tough to tell as our Most Unethical Prime Minister keeps changing the rules and makes different rules for different provinces (seems to depend on the provinces voting power). My sister just got back from Mexico last week, landing in YVR. She is double vaxed so she didn't have to go to hotel jail (new rule), but still took another covid test at the airport and no one there knew if she was supposed to quarantine until test result, not quarantine at all or do 10 days. I just sent a text to a pilot friend of mine in B.C. (still pretty early there) and I will let you know if he has any info. Make sure you have the ArriveCan app. The nice thing about the ArriveCan app is that it really is just virtue signaling as one can put pretty well anything they want on there. For example the hotel jail one is going to quarantine at even though one just plans on flying straight home and quarantining there. On a positive note, only 7 covid deaths in all of Canada in last 24 hours. Take care.

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by Quadra Paul @, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 14:52 (54 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

On a positive note, only 7 covid deaths in all of Canada in last 24 hours.

So, you're only concern is the number of deaths? What a numbskull you are! What about the hospitals loading up, nurses at the point of total exhaustion, elective surgeries being cancelled, too high a percentage unvaccinated, Gov't restrictions still in place, long term effects of Covid ETC ETC ETC!

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by Yandosan, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 15:44 (54 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

So you're worried about the rising tide of hospitalized patients AND the oppressive govt restrictions? Seems like you are straddling both sides of the fence.

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by Quadra Paul @, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 19:06 (54 days ago) @ Yandosan

So you're worried about the rising tide of hospitalized patients AND the oppressive govt restrictions? Seems like you are straddling both sides of the fence.

I'm not straddling anything! I was trying to point out to Mr. RX that there are other factors involved. Judging by his reply, I'm wasting my time!

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by catlover, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 17:01 (54 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

Yandosan's quote from a previous post.

Why do we care about cases if we have a successful vaccine and the number of deaths has plummeted so far down?
I feel like fearmongering has gotten the better of us.

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by ZihuaRx @, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 18:23 (54 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

Could you give me a list of all the hospitals filling up in Canada? We are talking about Canada aren't we. Here most of the people in the hospital aren't vaccinated. Their choice. Your hyperbole is so out extreme that it makes it hard to respond without laughing. I could respond with something really numbskullish like saying..YOUR ONLY CONCERN IS AMOUNT OF CASES!!!!!????, but that would make me sound like a mean moron. We have next to no restrictions in this province because we have very low covid numbers and a premier with common sense. He also believes in small business and small government. I believe in the vaccines that's why I dont live my life in fear. It's also why I plan on going to Ziua AGAIN in the fall and spending pesos. Have a great day Quad, you seem like a wonderful person.;-)

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by Quadra Paul @, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 19:04 (54 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

Could you give me a list of all the hospitals filling up in Canada? We are talking about Canada aren't we. Here most of the people in the hospital aren't vaccinated. Their choice. Your hyperbole is so out extreme that it makes it hard to respond without laughing. I could respond with something really numbskullish like saying..YOUR ONLY CONCERN IS AMOUNT OF CASES!!!!!????, but that would make me sound like a mean moron. We have next to no restrictions in this province because we have very low covid numbers and a premier with common sense. He also believes in small business and small government. I believe in the vaccines that's why I dont live my life in fear. It's also why I plan on going to Ziua AGAIN in the fall and spending pesos. Have a great day Quad, you seem like a wonderful person.;-)

Not worthy of a response.

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by ZihuaRx @, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 19:10 (54 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

Yeah, I didn't think you knew the hospitals. That's okay though.

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by ZihuaRx @, Thursday, July 29, 2021, 11:18 (53 days ago) @ frostbite

Hello Frostbite. My young friend the bush pilot (working in the Mackenzie Mountains) said that after the 9th, if fully vaccinated and you have filled out the ArriveCan app you shouldn't have a problem. He also put in the disclaimer that this is Canada and the rules do seem to be that clear (probably like that in every country). Best of luck. Safe travels.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Thursday, July 29, 2021, 13:29 (53 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

Thanks!

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by Little Guy, Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 20:35 (54 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

MEANING THAT YOU CAN FLY IN UNVACCINATED, BUT HAVE TO QUARANTINE. YOU CANNOT DRIVE IN IF NOT VACCINATED!!;-)

I’m not sure how that is consistent with this.

Fully vaccinated foreign nationals may be allowed to enter Canada for discretionary travel on the following dates if they meet specific criteria:
Effective August 9: American citizens and permanent residents of the United States, who currently reside in the United States, who meet specific criteria to qualify as fully vaccinated
September 7 (intended start date): All other foreign nationals who qualify as fully vaccinated

https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/wizard-start

And

Foreign travellers entering Canada will need to present proof (in either English or French) that they've received a complete round of one of the vaccines authorized for use in Canada. That means two doses of either the Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca products, or one dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, at least 14 days before arriving.

All travellers must use the government's ArriveCAN portal to submit their information. If they meet the government's criteria, they will not have to quarantine upon arrival in Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-border-measures-reopening-1.6107988

Americans who have been vaccinated for at least 14 days will be able to travel to Canada, their second most popular destination, starting Aug. 9, the Canadian government has announced. Mexico, the most popular travel destination, is already open for travel.

Travelers will still be required to have proof of their vaccination status, either a digital or paper copy, and a prepared quarantine plan once in the country in case they arrive at the border and it is determined they do not meet the requirements.

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/20/1018309257/canada-border-americans-travel-vaccinated-covid

Putting an exclamation mark at the end of a sentence or printing in all capital letters doesn't make it true.

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by ZihuaRx @, Thursday, July 29, 2021, 07:46 (53 days ago) @ Little Guy

I'm not too sure how it is inconsistent (it is at least confusing). From the website: For travellers who do not qualify as fully vaccinated
Travellers entering Canada must follow the rules set out by the Emergency Orders under the Quarantine Act to help reduce the spread of COVID-19 and its variants. Failure to comply with any requirements or providing false information may result in fines, penalties or imprisonment. If you develop symptoms at any time, isolate yourself from others and contact local public health.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/awareness-resources/entering-canada-covid-19.html.
Sooo, I am thinking that only fully vaccinated Americans will be able to travel by land to Canada, but if you travel by air you can not be vaccinated , but would have to quarantine. This is how it has been since day one. I sure could be wrong as it wouldn't be the first time. Hope you have a great day and thanks for a civil response. Sure hoping to start looking at this fricking virus in the rear view mirror. And yes, I really do think that Zihua could use our support by people visiting, being responsible and not always thinking the sky is falling.....if the sky is falling then I'm sure as hell not spending it in my basement scared. La vida es corta.

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by Little Guy, Thursday, July 29, 2021, 09:13 (53 days ago) @ ZihuaRx

Travellers entering Canada must follow the rules set out by the Emergency Orders under the Quarantine Act to help reduce the spread of COVID-19 and its variants. Failure to comply with any requirements or providing false information may result in fines, penalties or imprisonment. If you develop symptoms at any time, isolate yourself from others and contact local public health.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/awareness-resources/entering-canada-covid-19.html.

Sooo, I am thinking that only fully vaccinated Americans will be able to travel by land to Canada, but if you travel by air you can not be vaccinated , but would have to quarantine. This is how it has been since day one. I sure could be wrong as it wouldn't be the first time.

I’m quite sure you are incorrect. Prior to August 9, 2021 all discretionary entry into Canada by non-residents has been prohibited, whether by land, sea, or air. Eligible entry has been limited to the following.

Foreign nationals who are eligible to travel to Canada
To be eligible to travel to Canada as a foreign national, you must meet the requirements for one of the following:

an immediate family member of a Canadian citizen, person registered under Canada’s Indian Act or permanent resident who is staying in Canada for 15 days or more
an extended family member of a Canadian citizen, person registered under Canada’s Indian Act or permanent resident who is staying in Canada for 15 days or more
a person who is authorized by the Public Health Agency of Canada to travel to Canada for compassionate reasons
a person who’s participating in an International Single-Sport Event (ISSE)

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/coronavirus-covid19/travel-restrictions-exemptions.html#:~:text=Travellers%20com...

An eligible person could enter whether vaccinated or unvaccinated.

Your confusion may have arisen because the USA treated the issue differently. It did not permit discretionary entry by Canadians by land or sea. It did permit discretionary entry by air.

So a Canadian could fly Alaska Air from Vancouver to Los Angeles to Zihuatanejo because the USA would permit entry by air. The Canadian could return by the same route because the USA would permit entry by air and the Canadian had the right to return to Canada. An American could not take that same flight from Los Angeles to Vancouver unless they were in an eligible category.

That changes on August 9.

Those who are in the eligible categories will be will still be permitted entry under the previous rules.

Discretionary American travellers who are fully vaccinated. will be permitted entry.

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by ZihuaRx @, Thursday, July 29, 2021, 11:20 (53 days ago) @ Little Guy

Ahhh, muchas gracias.