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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, January 17, 2022, 11:45 (126 days ago)

This has been beaten to a pulp, but Tere put it so clearly:


Not a single full time resident of Zihuatanejo has been boosted, as of this morning.

Those of you that are visiting, have had lots of shots, wonderful. HOWEVER you can still be carrying the virus and pass it on to others. Wearing a mask can help prevent this.

Again, the residents here have not YET been boosted. Please care about others for a change.

And the attacks will begin.....

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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, January 17, 2022, 11:53 (126 days ago) @ Talley Ho

This has been beaten to a pulp, but Tere put it so clearly:


Not a single full time resident of Zihuatanejo has been boosted, as of this morning.

Those of you that are visiting, have had lots of shots, wonderful. HOWEVER you can still be carrying the virus and pass it on to others. Wearing a mask can help prevent this.

Again, the residents here have not YET been boosted. Please care about others for a change.

And the attacks will begin.....

Right on!

Again, this morning walking along the downtown waterfront, foreigners stood out for being mostly unmasked when in proximity to others, while the opposite appears to be true for locals. It truly is surprising to see. I really didn't expect this from our NOB visitors.

Education personnel begin receiving their booster shots today at the UTCG.

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by frostbite ⌂ @, Hamilton MT, Monday, January 17, 2022, 12:15 (126 days ago) @ Talley Ho

You should come and visit Hamilton MT. Hardly anyone wears a mask. Some stores have a sign on the door SUGGESTING one should wear one, but the employees rarely do. I put mine on in the car before getting out and get looked at by most folks like I'm some kind of freak. The recent trips to and from Zihua were interesting in that regard. Hardly anyone wore one at the Missoula airport, most people had one on at the Seattle airport and absolutely everyone at LAX was masked.

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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, January 17, 2022, 12:36 (126 days ago) @ frostbite

But at least the people in the US and Canada have had the opportunity to have a booster, whether they chose to or not.

Here, we don't have that choice. No boosters yet.

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Diana @, Monday, January 17, 2022, 14:56 (126 days ago) @ Talley Ho

We completely understand and totally respect your concerns. Please do not paint us all with the same brush! We are fully boosted Canadians and were totally disgusted to see so many unmasked tourists. We were strolling along Fisherman's walk one afternoon and decided to have a quick bite to eat at "Acadia." The young man trying to lure us in was not masked. I asked politely, could you please put your mask on? He looked at me, laughed and said NO. There were some gringos seated there that also got a real kick out of his actions, treating us as though we had three heads. On the other hand we have visited some incredible establishments that follow proper protocols similar to home. Lesson learned. Still extremely grateful to be visiting again.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, January 17, 2022, 18:25 (126 days ago) @ Diana

We completely understand and totally respect your concerns. Please do not paint us all with the same brush! We are fully boosted Canadians and were totally disgusted to see so many unmasked tourists. We were strolling along Fisherman's walk one afternoon and decided to have a quick bite to eat at "Acadia." The young man trying to lure us in was not masked. I asked politely, could you please put your mask on? He looked at me, laughed and said NO. There were some gringos seated there that also got a real kick out of his actions, treating us as though we had three heads. On the other hand we have visited some incredible establishments that follow proper protocols similar to home. Lesson learned. Still extremely grateful to be visiting again.

Thanks, Diana. The same hawker made fun of me, too, after mistaking me for a tourist. I've had run-ins with him before but apparently he has mental issues.

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by kr0957, Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 17:33 (125 days ago) @ Talley Ho

My wife and I will be there in a couple of weeks. We are both vaccinated and boosted, but will still be wearing our masks as it is the right thing to do. Can't wait to enjoy the sun and food.

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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 20:33 (125 days ago) @ kr0957

Thank You!!!
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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Craig AKA the cruise ship guy @, Monday, January 17, 2022, 14:17 (126 days ago) @ Talley Ho

This has been beaten to a pulp, but Tere put it so clearly:


Not a single full time resident of Zihuatanejo has been boosted, as of this morning.

Those of you that are visiting, have had lots of shots, wonderful. HOWEVER you can still be carrying the virus and pass it on to others. Wearing a mask can help prevent this.

Again, the residents here have not YET been boosted. Please care about others for a change.

And the attacks will begin.....

Yes again you are setting yourself up for disappointment. You can go ahead and believe that your opinion is 100% fact and get very frustrated when someone disagrees. At work a couple of months ago it was my job to encourage the staff to get vaccinated. Boy did that fall on deaf ears. Since I work for a healthcare system, later they had to vaccinate or loose their jobs. Guess their “rights” were not above the old mighty dollar. From what I have been reading unless your wearing an N95 or KN95 mask, it’s doing little to no good. That’s my opinion for what it is worth which is nothing except to myself.

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Padrino ⌂ @, San Diego/Rosarito, Monday, January 17, 2022, 16:02 (126 days ago) @ Craig AKA the cruise ship guy

From what I have been reading unless your wearing an N95 or KN95 mask, it’s doing little to no good. That’s my opinion for what it is worth which is nothing except to myself.

We've beaten this horse many times already. You are correct that the disposal surgical masks and cloth masks are not particularly effective in protecting you from the virus. However, the surgical masks are fairly effective at protecting you from spreading the virus whereas the cloth masks are marginally effective at protecting others. We don't wear the non-N95/KN95 masks to protect ourselves. As individuals who care about our brethren, we wear them to protect others.

However, now that the N95/KN95 masks are more readily available, the authorities are recommending everyone use them in lieu of the other types.

Any professionals want to chime in?

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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, January 17, 2022, 17:08 (126 days ago) @ Padrino

From what I have been reading unless your wearing an N95 or KN95 mask, it’s doing little to no good. That’s my opinion for what it is worth which is nothing except to myself.


We've beaten this horse many times already. You are correct that the disposal surgical masks and cloth masks are not particularly effective in protecting you from the virus. However, the surgical masks are fairly effective at protecting you from spreading the virus whereas the cloth masks are marginally effective at protecting others. We don't wear the non-N95/KN95 masks to protect ourselves. As individuals who care about our brethren, we wear them to protect others.

However, now that the N95/KN95 masks are more readily available, the authorities are recommending everyone use them in lieu of the other types.

Any professionals want to chime in?

Why sure. Cloth masks are Covid theater. Surgical masks probably protect others more than the user. N-95 and Kn-95 masks give good protection for both others and the user.

This is the best illustration that I’ve seen. Imagine one person with Covid and one without. If they are conversing in cloth masks, the uninfected will be infected in a half hour, if they are both wearing surgical masks it’s an hour, if the are both wearing KN-95 or N-95, it’s 24 hours.

While any mask is better than none, now that N-95 and KN-95 masks are readily available, wearing anything other than them is kidding yourself. (And yes I know how uncomfortable they are. Since this started they are pretty much all I’ve worn.)

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Casa Juan @, Monday, January 17, 2022, 17:36 (126 days ago) @ Timmac

ok care to tell us where in Zihua and at what cost these special masks are readily available?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, January 17, 2022, 18:22 (126 days ago) @ Casa Juan

ok care to tell us where in Zihua and at what cost these special masks are readily available?

Try a farmacia. We get ours from the farmacia on the corner of Nicolás Bravo and Vicente Guerrero.

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Casa Juan @, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 17:15 (124 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Gracias,, much better than the Amazon suggestion, no thank you Mr. Bezos, no tengo nombre de calle and no numeral de calle.

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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, January 17, 2022, 18:41 (126 days ago) @ Casa Juan

I got mine from Amazon, I assume but don’t know, that they would be available on Amazon.mx

I have two brands:
Kimberly-Clark N-95 pouch respirator (53358)—-$57 for 50
3M Aura respirator (9205}. $24 for 20.

Both of these are reasonably comfortable and most importantly NIOSH certified.

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by golden boy @, Winnipeg, Monday, January 17, 2022, 19:17 (126 days ago) @ Timmac

Is it possible that some of the tourists think that masks are only required indoors?
I wear a KN95 mask, I suspect that the other masks aren't giving much protection from the Omicron variant. Where I live there is no expectation to wear a mask outside unless you are within six feet.

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by jaui @, Zihuatanejo, Monday, January 17, 2022, 23:33 (125 days ago) @ Craig AKA the cruise ship guy

17_Enero_2022

@Craig AKA the cruise ship guy, please excuse this intervention on your post.

Excerpts from posts:


" Not a single full time resident of Zihuatanejo has been boosted, as of this morning.

Those of you that are visiting, have had lots of shots, wonderful. HOWEVER you can still be carrying the virus and pass it on to others. Wearing a mask can help prevent this.

Again, the residents here have not YET been boosted. Please care about others for a change.


Yes again you are setting yourself up for disappointment. You can go ahead and believe that your opinion is 100% fact and get very frustrated when someone disagrees. At work a couple of months ago it was my job to encourage the staff to get vaccinated. Boy did that fall on deaf ears. Since I work for a healthcare system, later they had to vaccinate or loose their jobs. Guess their “rights” were not above the old mighty dollar. From what I have been reading unless your wearing an N95 or KN95 mask, it’s doing little to no good. That’s my opinion for what it is worth which is nothing except to myself."

Is this not a "two-way street"?
Some users are only commenting only about "Foreigners" visiting Z may be passing the Virus to a local resident.
Is it not possible that a Foreigner could arrive in fine condition, e.g. NO virus at all, could get infected by a local resident here?
E.g., taking into account that "the residents here have not YET been boosted".

Our Dr Timmac maybe has a professional opinion?

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 00:20 (125 days ago) @ jaui

I think it’s obvious that I feel that it would be irresponsible to visit if you aren’t vaxxed and boosted.

From what I’ve read at the present it seems like most of the unmasked are visitors. Since I’m not there,I really can’t express an opinion. Bottom line is we know omicron is present worldwide, so it stands to reason that with the current increase in numbers there it is Zihuatanejo too. In addition we can surmise that since there have been no boosters the local people are susceptible.

We also know that in vaxxed and boosted people breakthroughs are more common and that hospitalization is sometimes necessary and a few have died. Although the viral lode seems lower, a vaxxed and boosted person could still transmit although the odds are lower.

A visitor should mask first out of courtesy, we are visitors in their country, second because we could be an asymptotic carrier and transmit to our hosts, and third simply for our own protection. Remember if you end up positive, you’re not going home. Should you be unlucky and need hospitalization you will be putting unnecessary strain an a fragile system.

The folks there clearly need to mask because that is their best defense until they are boosted.

Most of the other stuff is Covid theater. Hand washing can’t hurt, cleaning surfaces is probably not worth the effort.

Right now I would be very concerned about group activities even if folks are masked.

We will be there in five weeks. My plan is to mask pretty much anytime I am around other people even if outdoors. Transportation will be walking or a cab with the windows open. Even if everyone is masked combis have a higher level of risk. I will not eat indoors. As much as I’d like to explore the food court, even though it is open air, there are just too many people. Sunday night at the basketball court is out of the question, just too many folks.
With these restrictions, we will have an almost normal trip and do our best to be considerate visitors.

Just my 2¢. I don’t the local answer to Dr. Fauci, but I graduated Med School in 1975 and spent the majority of my career as an Emergency Doc. FWIW we just cancelled a trip to Baltimore because my soon to be 3 year old granddaughter can’t be vaccinated and the risk to her is simply too great. We will miss her birthday.

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by jaui @, Zihuatanejo, Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 00:53 (125 days ago) @ Timmac

1/18-2022

@Timmac

I appreciate your fast reply and excellent comments, as usual.

My main question though remains:

Is the situation & possiblity of transmitting the virus not a "two-way street "?

Some users are emphasizing only about "Foreigners" visiting Z passing the Virus to a local resident, which obviously is an important aspect to the situation.

No obstante:
Is it not possible that a Foreigner could arrive in fine condition, e.g. NO virus at all, could get infected by a local resident here?

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 01:07 (125 days ago) @ jaui

1/18-2022

@Timmac

I appreciate your fast reply and excellent comments, as usual.

My main question though remains:

Is the situation & possiblity of transmitting the virus not a "two-way street "?

Some users are emphasizing only about "Foreigners" visiting Z passing the Virus to a local resident, which obviously is an important aspect to the situation.

No obstante:
Is it not possible that a Foreigner could arrive in fine condition, e.g. NO virus at all, could get infected by a local resident here?

I guess I could have been more clear. Yes, transmission is indeed a two way street. I think the incidence in residents is likely to be higher and presumably visitors are vaxxed and boosted. They could be infected, but it is less likely. I think it is probably more likely that a visitor could have a breakthrough infection, be asymptomatic, and transmit to a local who would have less immunity since he has not been boosted. If someone is unwise enough to visit without being vaxxed and boosted, I think the odds would be high he would be infected. Bottom line everybody needs to mask around other people and to avoid large groups. Were I king, I’d eliminate all large group gatherings for the time being.

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Glassguy9, Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 07:28 (125 days ago) @ Timmac

I agree it is a two way street.We were in Zihu a couple weeks ago and decided to go for a walk.I forgot to bring my mask but I thought I would be outside and not near anyone for any length of time.I was stopped by the Zihu sign and told I needed a mask which I purchased for a few pesos.The strange thing was the two residents walking behind me were maskless and not stopped.

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by Ironwood @, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 15:18 (124 days ago) @ Timmac

I guess I could have been more clear. Yes, transmission is indeed a two way street. I think the incidence in residents is likely to be higher and presumably visitors are vaxxed and boosted. They could be infected, but it is less likely. I think it is probably more likely that a visitor could have a breakthrough infection, be asymptomatic, and transmit to a local who would have less immunity since he has not been boosted. If someone is unwise enough to visit without being vaxxed and boosted, I think the odds would be high he would be infected. Bottom line everybody needs to mask around other people and to avoid large groups. Were I king, I’d eliminate all large group gatherings for the time being.

I appreciate the time you spend and the information you dispense as the Board's "unofficial Doc". I need a medical opinion.
We spent 3 weeks in Zihua in Nov/Dec, and are hoping for another trip....6 weeks this time....from late Feb - early April. We are Canadian, full-vaxxed and boosted. We both had negative PCR tests around 20 December.

Fact: Canadians require a negative PCR test within 72 hours of returning to Canada
Fact: PCR tests cost anywhere from $100-$300 per person
Fact: PCR test results are far more reliable than the cheaper antigen tests.

The scenario: One of us, Heaven forbid, tests positive during the 72 hours before our flight home in early April.

Question: How long, after receiving a positive PCR test result, should one have to wait before testing again?

(Given the costs of PCR testing, one wouldn't want to take the test too
soon, chancing another positive result. And since the gap between the
first positive result, and the follow-up test is likely more than 72
hours, both travelers would have to be re-tested, even if only one had
originally tested positive. And return flights could only be booked
AFTER both had re-tested negative, and would have to leave within 72
hours of the re-test. So, assuming $200 per PCR test, an initial
positive test result for one person has now mushroomed into at least
$800 in PCR costs, without any guarantee whatsoever that enough time has
elapsed to ensure a negative result. Taking the second PCR test too soon
might add another $400 to the total....now we're at $1200...ad nauseum)

I suppose, after that first positive PCR test, one could try a cheaper antigen test, before spending the big bucks for a second PCR test, but antigen tests haven't proven to be all that reliable.

Add the extreme hassle of changing and arranging flights, possible problems extending one's hotel stay, etc., etc...... and a positive PCR test result for only one of you could easily become the stuff of nightmares, financial and emotional.

I've almost talked ourselves out of risking it.

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 15:44 (124 days ago) @ Ironwood

Fasten your seat belts.

PCR tests can remain positive for months. I don’t know about Canada, but in the US there is an “end run” around a positive test. You need to have a doc certify that you are no longer infectious 10 days after the positive test. (This may have changed to 5 days) Canada might have a similar way of dealing with it.

If Canada doesn’t require PCR for land crossings, you could fly to the US with a negative antigen test, which should happen within 10 days and then cross by land.


Found a link to Canadian requirements, looks like you have to wait 15 days.

Canadian return

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 16:28 (124 days ago) @ Timmac

That link does not mention a positive PCR test but symptoms consistent with covid. I think many of us have the same question as to what happens if you test positive. For Americans it is one thing but different for Canadians. Frankly, I am not sure in terms of when we are able to get on a flight home as like you said, you can remain positive for months. For those of us coming for vacations and having to get back home for work, it makes things complicated as there have been several changes and right now things are not very clear.

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by Amiga de Montreal @, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 17:20 (124 days ago) @ cd69

Hola, I found on the Canadian government site the following link and it is a minimum of 14 days after you tested positive on a PCR test before being able to enter Canada by plane with no symptoms.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/fully-vaccinated-travellers-entering-canada-covid-19.html

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 17:30 (124 days ago) @ Amiga de Montreal

I had seen this but at a press conference a few days ago there was a discussion of a change on the number of days(14) required and it seems like the government is leaning on reducing that number. I should be flying back in March and obviously hoping to test negative...

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by Fuceneh @, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 17:39 (124 days ago) @ cd69

It`s 11 days as of January 15th...Scroll down to where it says

If you’ve already had COVID-19 and recovered

https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/flying-canada-checklist/covid-19-testing-travellers-coming-into-canada

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 19:28 (124 days ago) @ Fuceneh

Thanks for this! I had missed that part! Busy day at work and the brain is fried lol

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by Ironwood @, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 22:05 (123 days ago) @ Fuceneh
edited by Ironwood, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 22:15

It`s 11 days as of January 15th...Scroll down to where it says

If you’ve already had COVID-19 and recovered

https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/flying-canada-checklist/covid-19-testing-travellers-coming-into-canada

Interesting. Confusion reigns. The heading says "If you've already had COVID-19 and recovered"......

Question: If you tested positive on that PCR test taken within 72 hours of your return flight to Canada, does that necessarily mean "you've already had COVID and recovered"?
I don't think so.

In any event, thanks to whoever brought up the ability to return to Canada with a positive COVID PCR test, as long as the test was done between 11 and 180 days previously, and the individual is showing no symptoms. I'd forgotten that "out" when we were refused entry back to Canada. If either of us had tested positive , our options were to pay a $5700 fine each, OR wait on the US side of the border until 11 days had passed, then enter Canada with our positive PCR test, probably be tested again at Canada Customs/Immigration, agree to quarantine at home for 14 days, and possibly have to submit to another test during the quarantine period.

That means I have to revise my scenarios for our prospective trip to Zihua:

1. Best case: we spend $200-$400 for two (2) PCR tests, which prove to be negative....and we return home by air, as scheduled.

2. Worse case: one of us tests positive, meaning we cannot fly home until at least 11 days after the date of the positive test, meaning the other spouse has to re-test within 72 hours of the rescheduled return flight. Out-of-pocket? Three PCR tests at $300-$600, 11 extra days of meals and accomodation in Zihua, possible additional charges for rescheduled flights.

3. Worst case: One of us tests positive, necessitating the 11 day wait, then the other tests positive nine or ten days later, necessitating a second 11 day wait. I won't even bother calculating the out-of-pocket.

Of course the absolute worsest (?) case would be one or both contracting COVID and getting seriously ill....or....

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by Ironwood @, Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 19:24 (124 days ago) @ Timmac

Fasten your seat belts.

PCR tests can remain positive for months. I don’t know about Canada, but in the US there is an “end run” around a positive test. You need to have a doc certify that you are no longer infectious 10 days after the positive test. (This may have changed to 5 days) Canada might have a similar way of dealing with it.

If Canada doesn’t require PCR for land crossings, you could fly to the US with a negative antigen test, which should happen within 10 days and then cross by land.


Found a link to Canadian requirements, looks like you have to wait 15 days.

Canadian return

Land border crossings from US into Canada require a negative PCR test....definitely as of 20 December/21, because that's the day we were denied entry to Canada by car....and had to get PCR tests, ($150 US each, +$200 Canadian...each) in the USA before being allowed back into Canada.

Travelers....especially Canadians..... are being advised to have a "Plan B". Clearly, Plan B is not pretty.

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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!! Symptoms

by jaui @, Zihuatanejo, Monday, January 24, 2022, 11:29 (119 days ago) @ Timmac


Yes, transmission is indeed a two way street. I think the incidence in residents is likely to be higher and presumably visitors are vaxxed and boosted. They could be infected, but it is less likely. I think it is probably more likely that a visitor could have a breakthrough infection, be asymptomatic, and transmit to a local who would have less immunity since he has not been boosted. If someone is unwise enough to visit without being vaxxed and boosted, I think the odds would be high he would be infected. Bottom line everybody needs to mask around other people and to avoid large groups. Were I king, I’d eliminate all large group gatherings for the time being. "

1_24_2022

Updated additional comment related to topic
@Dr. Timmac

I think this should be of interest to people who have what appears to be "common cold" symptoms.
I did call the GRO Covid-Tel and spoke with a Dr.
He said that the symptomatology is different these days vs in the initial year ½ or so.
What appears to be a common cold, such as phlegm, and starts out as a sore throat that "goes away" after a few days, at this point in time may actually be Covid or one of the variants. One should get tested.
Do you have an opinion on this?

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!! Symptoms

by Ironwood @, Monday, January 24, 2022, 12:14 (119 days ago) @ jaui


Yes, transmission is indeed a two way street. I think the incidence in residents is likely to be higher and presumably visitors are vaxxed and boosted. They could be infected, but it is less likely. I think it is probably more likely that a visitor could have a breakthrough infection, be asymptomatic, and transmit to a local who would have less immunity since he has not been boosted. If someone is unwise enough to visit without being vaxxed and boosted, I think the odds would be high he would be infected. Bottom line everybody needs to mask around other people and to avoid large groups. Were I king, I’d eliminate all large group gatherings for the time being. "


1_24_2022

Updated additional comment related to topic
@Dr. Timmac

I think this should be of interest to people who have what appears to be "common cold" symptoms.
I did call the GRO Covid-Tel and spoke with a Dr.
He said that the symptomatology is different these days vs in the initial year ½ or so.
What appears to be a common cold, such as phlegm, and starts out as a sore throat that "goes away" after a few days, at this point in time may actually be Covid or one of the variants. One should get tested.
Do you have an opinion on this?

More sobering and confusing news, (not from you, you've been a voice of reason), which has been par for the course. While it is encouraging that those who have been vaxxed and boosted may suffer nothing more than a sore throat that quickly goes away, or other minor cold symptoms....it could play havoc with travellers, (especially, perhaps exclusively, for us hapless Canadians), who would show positive PCR test results and be forced to extend trips by 10 or 11 days minimum.
Any comments on how "transmissable" individuals you have described would be? If I come down with these relatively benign cold symptoms in Zihua....thereby necessitating an extended stay.... how likely would it be that my spouse would then begin to experienc the same minor symptoms, necessitating an even longer extension of the trip?
(For us, this is all academic: we've bought our air tickets and booked accommodation. But it'll keep me awake at night, which wasn't the idea behind a vacation at all.)

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by jaui @, Zihuatanejo, Monday, January 24, 2022, 12:41 (119 days ago) @ Ironwood

1-24-2022

Hello @Ironwood


Re: " Any comments on how "transmissable" individuals you have described would be? If I come down with these relatively benign cold symptoms in Zihua....thereby necessitating an extended stay.... how likely would it be that my spouse would then begin to experienc the same minor symptoms, necessitating an even longer extension of the trip? "

My "UPDATE" post today is for Dr. Timmac, if and when he could reply, as I think you're excellent questions should also be directed to. I'm not a Dr, and have no answers for your questions.

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!! Symptoms

by Ironwood @, Monday, January 24, 2022, 12:52 (119 days ago) @ jaui

1-24-2022

Hello @Ironwood


Re: " Any comments on how "transmissable" individuals you have described would be? If I come down with these relatively benign cold symptoms in Zihua....thereby necessitating an extended stay.... how likely would it be that my spouse would then begin to experienc the same minor symptoms, necessitating an even longer extension of the trip? "

My "UPDATE" post today is for Dr. Timmac, if and when he could reply, as I think you're excellent questions should also be directed to. I'm not a Dr, and have no answers for your questions.

Sorry, Howie. I thought my comments had been directed to the good doctor.

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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!! Symptoms

by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, January 24, 2022, 14:15 (119 days ago) @ Ironwood

With omicron I would think it would be very likely she would catch it too. That said prior to delta and vaccines, my son and grandson got Covid while my daughter-in-law never did. Just for grins she had her antibodies tested and she had none. Her doc can’t figure out why she didn’t catch it. I’ve read one paper that feels that a few folks may have a natural, perhaps genetic, resistance to the virus. So ultimately, your mileage may vary.

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Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!! Symptoms

by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, January 24, 2022, 14:11 (119 days ago) @ jaui

I would agree. The biggest problem is that folks might not get very sick and unknowingly pass it to someone who is vulnerable.

Why ALL people in Zihuatanejo should wear masks!!!

by mcnuttja, Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 10:36 (125 days ago) @ jaui

You have described an EXCELLENT scenario for the use of N95 Masks by Visitors, protect yourself.