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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, January 31, 2011, 18:12 (2455 days ago)

Just in case anyone knows Mark Leifer, seen in the photos below, I'd like to go on record that he has today made numerous threats against my life. Since he claims to live in Zihuatanejo, I intend to report him to the proper authorities and I am also making this public statement in case anything should happen to my family or me.

Somehow I have not had the misfortune to meet him in person, or if I did he made no impression.

Apparently I made the mistake of "friending" this guy on Facebook recently (note to self: stop "friending" strangers), and last Friday after I posted an Elton John song on my "Wall" Mark Leifer posts a slur against gay people in reply. Of course I chastised him for making the comment. Next thing I know I'm receiving e-mails and "private messages" from him full of more gay slurs, insults and now threats. He is of course welcome to stop by if he wishes to see me in person, though I don't suffer fools lightly, but I can take care of myself. I've never in my life backed down to wannabe bullies, and I'm not about to start just for some senile old bigot. But since a threat against me may also bring harm or hardship to my family or our property, I am also taking proper measures to ensure our collective safety.

Since these photos are viewable by the public on Facebook, I reprint them here in case anyone recognizes him and can help me get an address for this person, local or otherwise, as well as any other helpful info to help me identify and locate him.

Sorry folks have to read this kind of stuff, but just like anywhere, apparently we have our share of senile old bigots who like to threaten folks, too.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Monday, January 31, 2011, 19:16 (2454 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Hi Rob!

I certainly don't agree with all your posts and some of your replies but I commend you on this situation,first for addressing such improper comments on Facebook and then taking action when being threatened by a bully.Unfortunately these days one cannot be cautious enough and I have learned that the hard way.I have worked a few jobs and currently have a dual career and being a union rep at my main workplace,I have seen first hand the damage bullies do and it is something all of us should strieve to stop.I hope this individual is recognized and proper actions taken with the authorities.Good luck!

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by Lisette, Monday, January 31, 2011, 20:12 (2454 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

"El Chivo" lives in Zihua, downtown. My husband knows him, and says he's an old crazy, but harmless.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Monday, January 31, 2011, 22:14 (2454 days ago) @ Lisette

Sorry Lisette but in this day and age,being old is not an excuse.If that was the case,we should start some major culling of old folks :-)

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by Lisette, Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 23:54 (2453 days ago) @ cd69

I'm not excusing anything, just trying to calm some nerves.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, February 02, 2011, 08:20 (2453 days ago) @ Lisette

Estimada Lisette, with all due respect, the nerves that need to be calmed are not among anyone participating here on the Message Board.

Here's the song that started it all: :dance:

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by michoacan, Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 01:30 (2454 days ago) @ Lisette

The last time I checked the ministerio publico took a mighty dim view of people who threatened others using a media, like mail, email, etc.

People who send death threats need to be "corrected". It's way out of bounds and I do not take seriously that "someone is nuts but harmless", a nut who was similar assaulted that congressperson from Arizona.

Good Luck

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by allen @, Pacific Northwest, Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 01:43 (2454 days ago) @ michoacan

I recognize that guy from downtown on my last trip in December. Ask at the corner bar. He stops by there from time to time.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 08:46 (2454 days ago) @ Lisette

I don't consider threats like the following harmless:

"A buddy asked me not to burn your house down cause it aint yours and you are living with a decent woman and a beautifull child."

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by libertarian, Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 13:48 (2454 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Perhaps he was kidding. Isn't that what you claimed after threatening to shoot Carl the other day?
It seems to me that those that incite bear some responsibility in the outcome that it invokes.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 14:13 (2454 days ago) @ libertarian

Perhaps he was kidding. Isn't that what you claimed after threatening to shoot Carl the other day?
It seems to me that those that incite bear some responsibility in the outcome that it invokes.

Spoken like a true cohort in crime.

Oh, I believe there's a huge difference between the types of messages I write here publically to Carl or anyone and the types I've been receiving by e-mail out of the public eye. I think my message to Carl was a most obvious light-spirited exchange except perhaps to some of the slower fish in the pond, while the flurry of e-mails from Mark containing anti-gay slurs, hatred, and threats such as "Remember Swiss Paul" (a local restauranteur who was found murdered years ago) are quite distinct.

But Mike can explain all that to the Mexican cops as soon as we locate him. You can even be his lawyer if you want.

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by Gringo Viejo @, Kansas, Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 09:12 (2454 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Ah, ha! Now I know why a certain shop has the door locked and a certain lady sitting inside letting people in????????????????/

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 11:13 (2454 days ago) @ Gringo Viejo

Not quite right. But since you brought it up I will explain. Many local shops in our neighborhood have been hit by robbers over the years, and we've had an incident or two as well as suspicious characters eyeballing the place, so we try to reduce the threat just like our neighbors do next door at Fruity Keiko by keeping our door locked and only opening it for customers.

As for me, I don't open to the public from the street. Used to, but it didn't work out. B-)

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by NoName @, Vancouver Island, Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 11:31 (2454 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

How very sad that an incident like this has a right to erupt in what we consider an informed era. The idea of being able to stand up for a moral opinion and do so without fear of violence is a dream that has not matured or evolved. So many times I think that humans have stepped up on the ladder of intelligence and then something like this happens.
You should be proud of yourself Rob, you help us to keep our foot on the right rung of the ladder. Keep safe
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