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by Conni.b, Sunday, September 11, 2016, 16:48 (3716 days ago)

Been a long time since I was in Zih, always stayed at the Zihuatanejo Centro. I have read threads about noisy bars downtown. My question is, are there bars close to the Centro that we should be concerned about? Thx

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, September 12, 2016, 09:22 (3715 days ago) @ Conni.b

Been a long time since I was in Zih, always stayed at the Zihuatanejo Centro. I have read threads about noisy bars downtown. My question is, are there bars close to the Centro that we should be concerned about? Thx

Unfortunately yes. You may wish to bring your concerns to the attention of the hotel itself. One of the reasons this problem is dragging out is because too many hotels are not complaining to the municipal authorities about the noise on behalf of their guests. This problem should've been resolved years ago, but apathy and unresponsive public servants are dragging it out interminably.

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by rojo, Monday, September 12, 2016, 11:40 (3715 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I have no problem with the bars being open 24 hours a day, but the noise factor is totally unacceptable. The bars in central are tolerable till about 11 PM when they turn up their noise and around 1 AM they turn it up even more, some till 7 AM. The noise should be in a structure that confines the noise inside the premise but not keeping the whole neighborhood awake. Some hotels like the Celeste and Adriana and others have many guests that may stay 1 or 2 nites and then find a quieter place to stay because of the insane noise issue. Complaining to the local authorities doesn't seem to do anything.

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by OlsenMN, Monday, September 12, 2016, 13:48 (3715 days ago) @ rojo

I have no problem with the bars being open 24 hours a day, but the noise factor is totally unacceptable. The bars in central are tolerable till about 11 PM when they turn up their noise and around 1 AM they turn it up even more, some till 7 AM. The noise should be in a structure that confines the noise inside the premise but not keeping the whole neighborhood awake.


The newest bad neighbor is Bananas! DJ Doro has decided to host private parties on the weekends with window vibrating bass that extends for blocks until 4 or 5 AM. Many families live on that block, but he just tells them it is business.

And I suspect rojo doesn't mind waking up to the sound of vomiting that comes along with this.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 09:51 (3714 days ago) @ OlsenMN

The newest bad neighbor is Bananas! DJ Doro has decided to host private parties on the weekends with window vibrating bass that extends for blocks until 4 or 5 AM. Many families live on that block, but he just tells them it is business.

And I suspect rojo doesn't mind waking up to the sound of vomiting that comes along with this.

This doesn't sound like the Doro I know who has always been considerate and respectful of his neighbors. Perhaps this was a one-time event? Did you talk to him personally or is this just hearsay you're repeating here?

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by OlsenMN, Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 10:29 (3714 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
edited by OlsenMN, Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 10:36

Here was one:
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And here is the link to a video of an earlier one.
https://www.facebook.com/ligamunicipalsurfzihuatanejo/

Here is one Aug 14th[image]

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And this was probably 5AM:[image]

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 10:41 (3714 days ago) @ OlsenMN

So does that mean the answer is "no"? You didn't speak with Doro?

Looks to me like they're trying to raise funds for local surfers to compete in Cabo. Maybe if you made a donation...

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by mexicowanderer, Monday, September 12, 2016, 17:31 (3715 days ago) @ rojo

Thirty or so years ago - a friend, Gilberto patiently, explained to me...

"Well, here in México, if a person is quiet everyone will think they're sick, or dead..."

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by jaui @, Zihuatanejo, Wednesday, September 14, 2016, 01:05 (3714 days ago) @ rojo

9/14/2016

Hello Rojo:
Excerpt from your post.....
"I have no problem with the bars being open 24 hours a day, but the noise factor is totally unacceptable......
Complaining to the local authorities doesn't seem to do anything."

The supposed local "authorities" here in Z land, for the most part, are relatively useless, referring to la D.A.C.I.E.P (AKA "REGLAMENTOS" ) ; Ecología; & the Policía Preventiva.
That was proven beyond a doubt, when early in the year, they permitted the alcoholics to stage the event "La Carpa" for almost 30 nights and mornings in a row, at Las Salinas, in spite of all the complaints from business people and local residents in the surrounding colonias, about extreme noise levels.

It seems that most everything that goes on in Z land, is in one way, shape or form, tied in with the multi millions of pesos alcohol:vacation: industry tagging along.
Like the event cited at a local bar to raise funds for the surfers.

VIVA MÉXICO :vivamexico:

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jaui

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by Paulf @, Mount Sterling, Ky 40353, Monday, September 12, 2016, 11:42 (3715 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Before the noise really got bad, we were staying at Hotel Casa Celeste. One night the noise was so bad the walls we reverberating(we had a 2nd floor room over looking the pedestrian street). Sunday was loud but not till 4 am. Sunday morning we went looking for another hotel and found the old Hotel Zihuatanejo- not the best but close to everything and clean. We had to leave Centro if we wanted to sleep- that's when we found Mercedes. A couple of years ago my wife's daughter was celebrating her 40th and booked Villa Celeste again- the noise was just as bad when we left. Mentioned the noise to the mgr- the response was you should get a inside room and the noise won't be so bad. We loved sitting on the balcony at Hotel Celeste and watch the pedestrian traffic go buy.

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by Conni.b, Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:10 (3711 days ago) @ Paulf

Thank you all for your opinions. So now we will look for another accommodation. Very open to any recommendations. We are seniors and do not want to go past Madera beach. Need 2 beds and as few stairs as possible.
Hoping to find something in the same price range of 480 pesos a night. Jan 4 - Mar 4.
TIA

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by Conni.b, Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:13 (3711 days ago) @ Conni.b

Also a pool. Thx

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by Sun Seeker, Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:26 (3711 days ago) @ Conni.b

You may wish to activate your email address within your account. It enables people to contact you privately with suggestions.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, September 16, 2016, 13:12 (3711 days ago) @ Sun Seeker

You may wish to activate your email address within your account. It enables people to contact you privately with suggestions.

Kind of defeats the purpose of the Message Board, though, if I don't know what places people are recommending to others.

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by OlsenMN, Friday, September 16, 2016, 13:20 (3711 days ago) @ ZihuaRob


Kind of defeats the purpose of the Message Board, though, if I don't know what places people are recommending to others.

Rob, you need to recognize that your list of recommended places and that of many of us local residents (and I include the six month a year snowbirds) are very, very different and when we recommend something you don't like we get insulted so . . .

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, September 16, 2016, 20:01 (3711 days ago) @ OlsenMN


Kind of defeats the purpose of the Message Board, though, if I don't know what places people are recommending to others.


Rob, you need to recognize that your list of recommended places and that of many of us local residents (and I include the six month a year snowbirds) are very, very different and when we recommend something you don't like we get insulted so . . .

Insulted? Hardly. But apparently you prefer to insist you know more than you do and you're willing to risk the integrity of our visitors more than I am. If I don't list all your favorite places, it may be an oversight or there may be a very good reason. Feel free to ask. The fact that I even have to have this discussion is somewhat disappointing. Obviously there are businesses and services I believe should not be patronized or promoted, especially by foreigners and visitors, even if many of you could care less about doing business with the proverbial devil. Sometimes the poor choices our visitors make have consequences for those of us who live here. That's why it matters to me how my website is used and who is using it to recommend which service.

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by cantinero46, Friday, September 16, 2016, 20:56 (3711 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob,thats why we never promote any one restaurant,sorry keep it to ourselves,and where the best fish and beef is in Centro.:blush:

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by cantinero46, Friday, September 16, 2016, 20:59 (3711 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Why doesn't everyone go to Ixtapa daaa...:jam:

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by cantinero46, Friday, September 16, 2016, 21:17 (3711 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Rob,and when was the last time you ate at the perla on La Ropa with your Chihuahua.:kingtut:

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by victorio, Saturday, September 17, 2016, 02:28 (3711 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Hola
Rob it is time that you started listening to the people posting on this board and stop treating us all as morons. This board is not (I hope) just about your ego or opinions. Just think of the possibility that someone other than you has a valid point. There are a lot more people concerned about Zihua than you. It would be nice if we could post an opinion or choice of venues without you shitting on us. I expect to get a lot of insults from you (as usual) for this post. Bring the put downs and insults on.

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by bmart, Saturday, September 17, 2016, 07:29 (3710 days ago) @ victorio

Hola
Rob it is time that you started listening to the people posting on this board and stop treating us all as morons. This board is not (I hope) just about your ego or opinions. Just think of the possibility that someone other than you has a valid point. There are a lot more people concerned about Zihua than you. It would be nice if we could post an opinion or choice of venues without you shitting on us. I expect to get a lot of insults from you (as usual) for this post. Bring the put downs and insults on.

Agreed.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, September 17, 2016, 09:02 (3710 days ago) @ victorio

Hola
Rob it is time that you started listening to the people posting on this board and stop treating us all as morons. This board is not (I hope) just about your ego or opinions. Just think of the possibility that someone other than you has a valid point. There are a lot more people concerned about Zihua than you. It would be nice if we could post an opinion or choice of venues without you shitting on us. I expect to get a lot of insults from you (as usual) for this post. Bring the put downs and insults on.

I'm listening but I don't hear anything but empty claims and disrespectful comments. We weren't discussing "valid points", we were discussing lodging recommendations. And I've already found out too many times that too many so-called helpful people recommend lodgings or services that belong to people who are doing bad things that you are simply unaware of. Thus the purpose of this website and the value of my personal recommendations. But hey, if you are so well connected and well informed and want to recommend places and services I don't or won't then buy my website or start your own. But don't berate me with empty accusations for putting the safety of tourists, the reliability of services and the interests of the community before all else.

I'm still waiting to hear what lodgings you want to recommend. Feel free to be specific.

And hey, since it's YOU using MY website and not the other way around, I'm glad you've found it useful.

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by Conni.b, Saturday, September 17, 2016, 12:49 (3710 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Wow, didn't realize a simple request would open up a can of ugly.
Just wanted some info and some recommendations.
Honestly this has made me more concerned about the safety of booking a place run by bad people, doing bad things. Signs that the Zihuat I knew has changed a lot.
Flights are booked but seriously thinking of changing destinations.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, September 17, 2016, 13:41 (3710 days ago) @ Conni.b

Wow, didn't realize a simple request would open up a can of ugly.
Just wanted some info and some recommendations.
Honestly this has made me more concerned about the safety of booking a place run by bad people, doing bad things. Signs that the Zihuat I knew has changed a lot.
Flights are booked but seriously thinking of changing destinations.

It's a surprise to me, too. I welcome helpful advice and recommendations, but some readers get carried away. I regret this has caused you any anxiety.

I will only list here on my website businesses and services that I can personally recommend. Being a good neighbor still means a lot in the local culture of the old families here, one of which I'm fortunate to belong to. Unlike other so-called destination guides, I'm not looking to sell you anything. I only hope you will have a positive and enjoyable experience so that you will want to return and to recommend Zihuatanejo to others.

Warm saludos from Zihuatanejo!

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:25 (3711 days ago) @ Conni.b

Thank you all for your opinions. So now we will look for another accommodation. Very open to any recommendations. We are seniors and do not want to go past Madera beach. Need 2 beds and as few stairs as possible.
Hoping to find something in the same price range of 480 pesos a night. Jan 4 - Mar 4.
TIA

Some suggestions for you are Hotel Palacios, Adelamar Bungalows, and Villa Cruz del Mar.