Very Disturbing

We flew Aeromexico from Guadalajara to San Francisco a few days ago. I still can’t believe what they did to us.

After all the passengers were seated and the cabin doors were closed, one flight attendant discharged 2 aerosol canisters of pesticide, holding them high over peoples heads, as she slowly walked up the aisle - then came slowly back to give everyone a second dose. The entire cabin was very hazy, and remained so for 15 or 20 minutes.

I waited until we had taken off and the flight attendants were moving around the cabin. Went to the rear of the plane to ask what the chemical was. “Oh, it’s harmless to people. It just kills flies” What was the chemical? “Oh, we don’t know. It’s not allowed to stay on the airplane. They remove it before we leave the gate.” What was the chemical? “You can ask the people in charge in SF once we land.”

I made it clear that I would not leave the airplane until I was given the information. Several hours later, just before we landed, one of the attendants showed me a screen shot, indicating that the chemical was permethrin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAkM_Ps5-gM

http://www.nwlaborpress.org/2004/5-7-04AFA.html

http://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2676&Itemid=3018

Agree, that was disturbing. Remember, though that not everyone is as environmentally conscious as the Bay Area.

I had a bad experience with Aeromexico about 6 months ago and used the contacts provided on this site. After some hoops they finally responded and provided a reasonable retribution.

Good luck!
B

Get used to it, it's here to stay. Just one more reason not to fly, IMO.

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Curly!

Back in the sixties and seventies military aircraft arriving from SEA were "fumigated" by knocking the heads off of several green aerosol cans and dispersing in the aircraft. Most of us put on our oxygen masks until we got off the airplane.

Better the aerosol than Zika or other mosquito borne germs.

They have been doing this on arrivals into Australia for years!!!I am still alive!!

Better the aerosol than Zika or other mosquito borne germs.

Really?

Permethrin is synthetic pyrethrin derived from pyrethrum, "A Known Carcinogen" with a whole list of side affects. I'll take the Zika virus.

Car Had A Flat - Zika

Casserole Burned - Zika

Grandkids Cut School - Zika

Snow In Sierra Nevada Yesterday - Zika

It is the age of Info Porn, where everything from the mundane to planet killer has to have a spin.

Any place where people get stuffed together can be a festival of contamination. Years ago whenever I boarded a chicken bus of course all the windows were shut in 30c (86F) weather and all the small children were hacking and blowing snot. A week later a person could count on the onset of la gripe.

Potential for enterprise: Stand outside boarding gates and sell surgical masks for 100 pesos pz.

You had a choice of being on the bus or not
You do not get to refuse Zika
I am sure all of the families of Zika babies in Brazil would rather choose the bus
Very bad comparison

Very bad comparison

We've come to expect that from MW.

I am competely stumped by these responses. I should get used to being sprayed with pesticides? Being from the Bay Area, I'm too fussy about being sprayed with pesticedes? Contact the airline for possible retribution?

I was hoping for suggestions on how to avoid future pesticide spraying. I really don't like being sprayed with cancer causing chemicals. Does anyone please have a helpful suggestion?

I am competely stumped by these responses. I should get used to being sprayed with pesticides? Being from the Bay Area, I'm too fussy about being sprayed with pesticedes? Contact the airline for possible retribution?

I was hoping for suggestions on how to avoid future pesticide spraying. I really don't like being sprayed with cancer causing chemicals. Does anyone please have a helpful suggestion

Come on Cathy, don't waste your time. You're only talking about a human health issue here. Now if you want to know where to get good cheap dog food, this is the place.

Buy an appropriate mask and put it on if they start spraying. I have never witnessed spraying insecticide on an aircraft.

I was hoping for suggestions on how to avoid future pesticide spraying.

I've never liked flying but it gets me to far-away places quickly. There are some trade-offs for that luxury. I suppose there is a line that I would draw, that would keep me from flying, but I know not where it is... yet. Could this debugging spray be it? After all the nasty crap I've exposed myself to willingly, throughout my life, I doubt it. We all have to make our own decisions on such things. As I see it, the only way to avoid it for sure is to stop flying.

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Curly!

There are definitely shortcomings with written messages: one can't get the intention or tone, and sometimes misunderstandings occur.

I am sorry my message left you feeling the way you described.

My only intention was to share with you a contact at the airline so you can share your concerns with them. This board is very unlikely to be able to affect procedures and/or policies from private companies.

Wishing you the best

Well I -could- have waited for the hurricane.

I am not "condoning" Zika. I have children and grandchildren here, not in Moose Jaw NWT or New Jersey. But the era of almost instant pandemics is upon us all. Zika isn't Thalidomide. It wasn't invented and sold. The human/swine/duck/chicken billion strong Frankenvirus laboratory is going 24/7 inside the Great Wall.

My son in law and I presented 30-minutes worth of "Do Something!" tips at the last reunion de ejido. More than a few eyes were opened when I explained how many thousands of zancudos can breed in a little used sink drain. A discarded auto tire, chela de cerveza or puddle of standing water. Mosquitoes breed, hatch and live in an area under an acre in size unless a strong wind carries them.

SSA in their wisdom put severe restrictions on the percentage of DEET allowed in approved products. The 4-nietas are protected by full screens on the house, and DEET and Pennyroyal Oil when at la enramada.

Fighting ZIKA with hand-wringing is so pathetic it's sad. Action speaks louder than words. How does a commercial airliner prevent ZIKA from entering along with passengers? I've not seen a commercial airliner door close before a half hour elapses. The airplane departs and several hours later opens it's doors in Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York.

So what's it going to be? Zika or Permethrin? Offer a third choice. not quibbling or complaints...

I remember being fumigated several times in the late 1980's or early 90's. When we were arriving in Mexico. We now fly Aeromexico regularly and haven't been the subjects of bug killers. I suppose it''s related to Zika.

I'd say I'm not a fan of being sprayed. I would definitively let my displeasure be known.

Ok
Zika or bug spray.

Are you for real!

You too, have a great day!