Question about La Ropa Beach

So been coming here now since 88' and first time I got to enjoy sitting down at our usual spot at the Catalina on the beach to have folks park in front with there umbrella and entire family. To then leave with there waste left behind. So my question is WTF happened here? Why is this all of sudden ok? Why isn't the Catalina asking them politely that there is other beach down the road as well to collect what the brought and dispose of it properly.
We paid good cash money up front as usual so the hotel gets the benefit (we pay in full up front) so we can come for a week and see the water, not we get to compete with this new group? Just curious of the tourist office in town has completely lost it...
I had many others on the beach sitting near us asking the same questions and you know darn well there asking themselves, do I come back next year?
Love your feedback..

PS outside of this have enjoyed every minute here, as normal, but the beach issue is big as its a place to re gain your mind and peace...

Hoping your message is a joke or intended to rile up folks.

The beaches in Mexico are public. Hotels have no rights to stop families from enjoying the beach.

The beach is for everyone...wherever they want to be. Things are not the same here as they are at home. Go ahead and pick up what is left behind. People learn by example. Last year in Barra de Potosi we watched a group of primary school children walk along the beach picking up trash. It was a beautiful thing.

Beaches in Mexico are public property, owned by the federal government. Catalina controls the property to where their rope is on the beach, and that's it.

The same is true in LOTS of places, including California.

Certain times of year are very bad for the kind of behavior you witnessed. Now, it's not.

We are very fortunate to live in paradise, and we have to learn to share it with others, and either clean up after them, or nicely remind them to clean up after themselves.

Sorry you had a terrible time, maybe you need to go somewhere else, or stay home.

Unfortunately, I have witnessed that kind of behavior frequently. In Barra, I've seen national tourists show up at La Condesa with a cooler full of food and drink, order nothing and depart, leaving their trash on the table.
As others have mentioned, the beach restaurants don't own the beach. It would be nice if they would keep an eye on those inconsiderate cretins and make them take their garbage with them or, at least, clean up after them. If all else fails, you could yell at the pigs or do the picking up yourself.

I hear ya Jim ! Next thing you know, people might walk their dogs on the beaches or set up a tent. Who knows where it could end.

Mork (On Probation)

I'm with OlsenMN, Ballarose, and TalleyHo on this.
Beaches are public. We've had lots of issues in Michigan regarding Great Lakes beaches public access, too.

I'm also in accord with the other replies regarding the inconsiderate beach visitors who leave the crap behind them. I'd expect Catalina, Villa Mexicana, Paty's, Viceroy, etc. to do their part in keeping the beaches in front of their properties clean, which would most certainly be in their own self-interest.

If you had told the bar or towel staff about the mess, I'm sure it would have been cleaned up post-haste.

I recommend you stay at Las Brisas in Ixtapa,virtually a private beach

How dare they use the public beach! Don't "those people" realize who we of the Estados Unidos just elected as el Presidente?

Build a wall!

Or - - just lie about almost everything, including the wall.

Hotels like the Catalina & Viceroy pay SEMARNAT (the QUANGO that administers the "concession beaches"- in Mexico), a fee for the use of a portion of public beach (a Concession) which gives them the SOLE right to sell food and beverages on that area. ANY member of the public may use these areas - but may not bring food, drink, or saleable items which the concessionaire my sell. There are set regulations to the concessions -such as the concessionaire must not put permanent structures on the concession and they cannot fence off the area, or offer exclusivity.

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Graham Felipe'

Thanks Graham. We knew the above information, but didn't have the names of the agencies involved.

Our favorite RV park in Mazatlan pays annually for the use of the beach in front of it, and the right to prevent concessionaires from setting up in front. The park is for sale, and they planned to close it. They found out that if they closed, they would lose the right to pay for the use of the beach, making the property less valuable. It is still for sale, three years later, and open!

Did you read where a group of Sheriffs across the US are offering their inmates to build the wall/fence. I was surprised to read the article. The offer is covered by the program where inmates help the communities. Our Jailer(elected position) has his inmates(male and female) cleaning the roads here and also working in our parks- there is complaints about the parks because there are jobs being taken away by the inmates.

Miguel (Tarzan), who has the water sports concession in front of the Viceroy, deserves a well earned mention here as he is the one who cleans La Ropa beach from end to end, in the middle of the night! He was contracted by the current local Government, prior to their election, to undertake this much appreciated work - so when you see Miguel jauntily trotting down the beach with a rake in his hand (they also gave him a wheelbarrow!) please acknowledge the great work he does - keeping our beach clean.

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Graham Felipe'

That's awesome! I never knew that!! Thanks!

We've always referred to Miguel as "Fabio!" A good person with something positive to say each time we meet.

We've always referred to Miguel as "Fabio!" A good person with something positive to say each time we meet.

Our ahijado Miguel is also known affectionately among many old-timers as Tarzán for several reasons. He actually used to live in a tree where the Xiguacán condos now are, then after the government harassed him he moved up into another tree at the very top of that same hill, but Fibazi eventually ran him out of there, too.

Tally,plus Miguel has a very attractive sister,runs in the family.

OlsenMN - curious what part of mN you're from. I'm in Mtka. coming down in Feb if you're stiil there