Despertando Zih Turismo

https://youtu.be/4vxQ-ROStfU

I hear international flights will resume on June 27. Some flights are already programmed before then. Alaska Airlines I believe is one of them. Locals are READY, but you won't recognize them or be able to see their smiles behind their masks. No word on when beaches open, but it has to be soon.

Rain is expected in the region tomorrow, and the chances look even better in the following days. Keeping fingers crossed. The water is still cold, though. Everything still seems backwards. It's hotter in Morelia than here!

Cerca 1958. La Playa Principal desde el muelle.

It really looks like the Alaska Air flight from Los Angeles is coming in and leaving on Saturday. Many people want to leave (why?) and many of our residents are anxious to get home.

For now they are scheduled to fly Saturdays.

Masks? Why can't we see smiles??? Yes, I know the reason.

The direct flights to and from Tijuana on Volaris's website were still available but as of tonight (3 June 2020), their entire site is out of commission. I broached the subject of me spending the last week of June in Zihua and the CEO and her Mexican allies quickly vetoed that idea. "Don't you realize how dangerous it is now in Mexico?" The reports here in San Diego of what is happening across the border in Tijuana are pretty grim. The idea of being in the Tijuana airport for a few hours before the flight does give me pause. I am figuring it won't be until September when I can visit again. Phoeey. Stay safe, Everyone. Dear Lord, I miss Zihuatanejo!

If you are using the Tijuana airport via the CBX you never really enter Tijuana. Just enter from the US side, walk through the enclosed walkway and you are ready for your flight. VERY safe!!!!

Come, we need you here! It's safer here in Zihuatanejo than many many places in the US.

I have heard that the entry to CBX is not available to those over 60 years of age?
Is this correct?
Also can one traveling with a pet go thru CBX to get to Mexico destinations from San Diego?

They have a great website and are very prompt in responding to questions.

Volaris has great dog reviews.

https://youtu.be/4vxQ-ROStfU

I hear international flights will resume on June 27. Some flights are already programmed before then. Alaska Airlines I believe is one of them. Locals are READY, but you won't recognize them or be able to see their smiles behind their masks. No word on when beaches open, but it has to be soon.

Rain is expected in the region tomorrow, and the chances look even better in the following days. Keeping fingers crossed. The water is still cold, though. Everything still seems backwards. It's hotter in Morelia than here!

Cerca 1958. La Playa Principal desde el muelle.

I'm scheduled on the Alaska Airlines flight out on June 6.
I wonder if those coming in from LAX need to have residency or obtained visas before entry?
Or will they be issued the spot?

Considering that the price of the visa is included in the price of the ticket (did you remember to get the price of yours refunded? You have a year) I think it's very safe to assume that things will be normal. The forms will be handed out on the plane like they normally are.

Considering that the price of the visa is included in the price of the ticket (did you remember to get the price of yours refunded? You have a year) I think it's very safe to assume that things will be normal. The forms will be handed out on the plane like they normally are.

I did
Thx for reminder

6/04/2020

EXCERPT from post by Padrino

......" I broached the subject of me spending the last week of June in Zihua and the CEO and her Mexican allies quickly vetoed that idea. "Don't you realize how dangerous it is now in Mexico?" The reports here in San Diego of what is happening across the border in Tijuana are pretty grim. The idea of being in the Tijuana airport for a few hours before the flight does give me pause. I am figuring it won't be until September when I can visit again. Phoeey. Stay safe, Everyone. Dear Lord, I miss Zihuatanejo! "

Local news reported that México is still in "Fase 3 con Semáforo Rojo "

Taking that into account, I agree with Padrino's assessment.

I.M.O., with the current conditions, Fase 3/Semáforo Rojo, people should not even be considering travelling into México at this time.

I would suggest waiting & postponing any travel into México until el Gobierno Mexicano declares that NO "Fase" is in effect, and gives el Semáforo Verde.

--
jaui

Dear Talley Ho,

Many thanks for the tip. Everyone in San Diego is very aware of the CBX as it is wildly advertised and there are even signs on the freeways pointing travelers towards it. My wife likes to use it but when I travel alone to Mexico, I either take the trolley to San Ysidro or have someone drop me off in San Ysidro, exchange some dollars for travel pesos at one of the Casas de Cambio (much better rate of exchange than any other Casas de Cambio in the airports or tourist destinations, roughly equivalent to Xoom or Western Union) and then walk across. I can buy my tourist visa at the San Ysidro border crossing instead of at the airport as the border crossing line is usually much shorter. I then walk downtown and hit one of the restaurants in downtown Tijuana and intermingle with the locals. I then take the bus from downtown TJ directly to the airport. The one-way bus ride is typically $15 pesos (but it may have gone up since the recent devaluation of the peso).

The CBX, on the other hand, charges US$30 round trip and US$18 one-way. As a full-fledged member (non-paying, of course) of the Tightwad Club, this is highway robbery, in my humble opinion! With my Volaris V.pass last fall 2019 and early 2020, I was scarfing round-trip tickets to Huatulco, Puerto Vallarta, and my favorite Mexican beach location, Zihuatanejo, for between US$57 and US$87. I ain't gonna' pay US$30 for a four-hundred yard round-trip walk when I am paying US$65 for a 3,000-mile round-trip flight. As I mentioned in a previous post, I had my round-trip ticket to Zihua from Tijuana for the last week of March that I think I paid a total of US$87 for. The week before is when all "non-essential" travel into and out of Mexico was prohibited.

Again, best case scenario, I will be back in Zihua in September. Keep those photos comin', Rob. They are sights for sore and sad eyes!

Many thanks to all and please stay safe!

Sinceramente,

Frank Paiano
San Diego, California

P.S. For those who travel often within Mexico and are not familiar with Volaris's V.pass program, it is definitely something that you should check out. I was as happy as a domesticated, porcine, farm animal in rich, organic matter for the four months I got to take advantage of the program. However, I am still having $600 pesos withdrawn from my BBVA (nee Bancomer) debit account each month and *not* being able to take advantage of my one round-trip ticket. You pay $600 pesos each month (but I think it has gone up a bit) and then starting the first of each month, you can grab a round-trip ticket anywhere within Mexico (sorry, no connecting flights included) and only have to pay the taxes and airport fees. The taxes and fees vary from US$25 to US$45 depending on the airport and the $600 pesos is roughly US$30. My best deal was round-trip from Tijuana to Huatulco for US$57. That was awesome! Speaking of Volaris, I checked out their new and improved website today. It is even more buggy than the previous website. Hard to believe but ya' gotta' love Mexico!

6/04/2020

EXCERPT from post by Padrino

......" I broached the subject of me spending the last week of June in Zihua and the CEO and her Mexican allies quickly vetoed that idea. "Don't you realize how dangerous it is now in Mexico?" The reports here in San Diego of what is happening across the border in Tijuana are pretty grim. The idea of being in the Tijuana airport for a few hours before the flight does give me pause. I am figuring it won't be until September when I can visit again. Phoeey. Stay safe, Everyone. Dear Lord, I miss Zihuatanejo! "

Local news reported that México is still in "Fase 3 con Semáforo Rojo "

Taking that into account, I agree with Padrino's assessment.

I.M.O., with the current conditions, Fase 3/Semáforo Rojo, people should not even be considering travelling into México at this time.

I would suggest waiting & postponing any travel into México until el Gobierno Mexicano declares that NO "Fase" is in effect, and gives el Semáforo Verde.

I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion. If Zihuatanejo waits until the state or the nation has the "green light" there won't be anything left for tourists to return to except a starving community in shambles. We who work for a living here depend 100% on tourism. We need to have people coming to visit us. And I am confident that our lodgings can accommodate people safely within the parameters of our "nueva realidad". I'm confident that there's a greater risk to locals from outsiders than to outsiders from locals, but it's a risk many if not most of us are willing to take. And while some locals still want roads and airports blocked to prevent any outsiders from coming here, most of us know that is not a realistic scenario for our community of over 100,000. As a community we've been practicing the new health safety measures for over 2 months. I'm confident our lodgings, restaurants and transportation services can provide the reasonable level of safety required to be able to receive tourists safely. Many have been working very hard in preparation for this eventuality. As a community, we can't wait until a vaccine is invented or the "green light" is bestowed us. We have families to care for.

"Hoy es hoy y mañana no existe. Hay que vivirla intensamente."

I know what I am about to say will be met with scorn by some.
I agree about not returning. Mexico is testing .04 persons per 100,000 near the bottom of the list for testing in the world.
Also stating the number of active cases at around 16,000 when there are between 3500 and 4000 new cases a day doesn't compute.

I know what I am about to say will be met with scorn by some.
I agree about not returning. Mexico is testing .04 persons per 100,000 near the bottom of the list for testing in the world.
Also stating the number of active cases at around 16,000 when there are between 3500 and 4000 new cases a day doesn't compute.

I can tell you still aren't listening to the daily briefings by Dr. Hugo López-Gatell, and you've conveniently forgotten or simply prefer to ignore everything I already told you about Mexico's SSA deciding not to try to emulate anyone else's testing procedures but instead modeling Mexico's response around characteristics that are unique to Mexico. Gee, testing's really worked great for the States, eh?

Dr. Hugo López-Gatell has explained that he believes it's a waste of resources and only increases the risk of contagion by having more people come into contact with each other. As an epidemiólogo he has numerous techniques tracking the contagion without having to resort to randomly selecting people and shoving a Q-tip up their nose. I for one do not wish to be so violated while out for a leisurely stroll as I'm sure most Mexicans don't.

Your other numbers are simply way off, and again, the way you throw those out there suggests that you aren't watching any daily briefings.

Here's the briefing from last evening.

https://youtu.be/qlL3s61RPng

The USA was late on testing and is very under tested.
Wouldn't believe anything from Government reports in Mexico.
Sacrificial opening appears to be on the agenda.

The USA was late on testing and is very under tested.
Wouldn't believe anything from Government reports in Mexico.
Sacrificial opening appears to be on the agenda.

Again, the USA has ZIP NADA ZILCH NOTHING to do with Mexico. You continue making an irrelevant argument based on your cultural criteria, not Mexico's or its experts.

Why NOT believe the federal government? They are doing their due diligence to be transparent, thorough and accurate. On what facts do you base your condemnation of Mexico's government? Because we had this discussion before and you came up with nothing except continuing to repeat the methods and failings of other countries.

6/04/2020

EXCERPT from post by Padrino

......" I broached the subject of me spending the last week of June in Zihua and the CEO and her Mexican allies quickly vetoed that idea. "Don't you realize how dangerous it is now in Mexico?" The reports here in San Diego of what is happening across the border in Tijuana are pretty grim. The idea of being in the Tijuana airport for a few hours before the flight does give me pause. I am figuring it won't be until September when I can visit again. Phoeey. Stay safe, Everyone. Dear Lord, I miss Zihuatanejo! "

Local news reported that México is still in "Fase 3 con Semáforo Rojo "

Taking that into account, I agree with Padrino's assessment.

I.M.O., with the current conditions, Fase 3/Semáforo Rojo, people should not even be considering travelling into México at this time.

I would suggest waiting & postponing any travel into México until el Gobierno Mexicano declares that NO "Fase" is in effect, and gives el Semáforo Verde.

I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion. If Zihuatanejo waits until the state or the nation has the "green light" there won't be anything left for tourists to return to except a starving community in shambles. We who work for a living here depend 100% on tourism. We need to have people coming to visit us. And I am confident that our lodgings can accommodate people safely within the parameters of our "nueva realidad". I'm confident that there's a greater risk to locals from outsiders than to outsiders from locals, but it's a risk many if not most of us are willing to take. And while some locals still want roads and airports blocked to prevent any outsiders from coming here, most of us know that is not a realistic scenario for our community of over 100,000. As a community we've been practicing the new health safety measures for over 2 months. I'm confident our lodgings, restaurants and transportation services can provide the reasonable level of safety required to be able to receive tourists safely. Many have been working very hard in preparation for this eventuality. As a community, we can't wait until a vaccine is invented or the "green light" is bestowed us. We have families to care for.

"Hoy es hoy y mañana no existe. Hay que vivirla intensamente."

6-05-2020

I already know and completely understand the economic aspects you noted.

We all sympathize with the situation, not only here in Z, as well as in many other parts of the world, and realize it is quite dire.

It has been and still is a "Catch 22" situation, trying to balance the economy with health safety.
Evidence shows that the two just don't mix well with the Covid-19 worldwide epidemic.

My point was:
IF I was a traveler, for ME PERSONALLY, I would not travel to México until as I said, the "Green Light" (or whatever it's called) is given, and all phases (1, 2, or 3) are "off the radar", and la "nueva realidad " / realidad is set and underway, and things are "good to go".

Others, may take your suggestion, and choose to travel & accept the risk that implies, and hope/assume that they will be safe exercising the recommended precautions as instructed by Dr. López-Gatel and the SSA.

Again, for me, e.g. under the current Fase 3/Semáforo ROJO situation, IF I was considering travelling into México for a vacation, it's a risk that is not necessary, & I would not take it. For the time being, that would be my advice.

--
jaui

6/04/2020

EXCERPT from post by Padrino

......" I broached the subject of me spending the last week of June in Zihua and the CEO and her Mexican allies quickly vetoed that idea. "Don't you realize how dangerous it is now in Mexico?" The reports here in San Diego of what is happening across the border in Tijuana are pretty grim. The idea of being in the Tijuana airport for a few hours before the flight does give me pause. I am figuring it won't be until September when I can visit again. Phoeey. Stay safe, Everyone. Dear Lord, I miss Zihuatanejo! "

Local news reported that México is still in "Fase 3 con Semáforo Rojo "

Taking that into account, I agree with Padrino's assessment.

I.M.O., with the current conditions, Fase 3/Semáforo Rojo, people should not even be considering travelling into México at this time.

I would suggest waiting & postponing any travel into México until el Gobierno Mexicano declares that NO "Fase" is in effect, and gives el Semáforo Verde.

I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion. If Zihuatanejo waits until the state or the nation has the "green light" there won't be anything left for tourists to return to except a starving community in shambles. We who work for a living here depend 100% on tourism. We need to have people coming to visit us. And I am confident that our lodgings can accommodate people safely within the parameters of our "nueva realidad". I'm confident that there's a greater risk to locals from outsiders than to outsiders from locals, but it's a risk many if not most of us are willing to take. And while some locals still want roads and airports blocked to prevent any outsiders from coming here, most of us know that is not a realistic scenario for our community of over 100,000. As a community we've been practicing the new health safety measures for over 2 months. I'm confident our lodgings, restaurants and transportation services can provide the reasonable level of safety required to be able to receive tourists safely. Many have been working very hard in preparation for this eventuality. As a community, we can't wait until a vaccine is invented or the "green light" is bestowed us. We have families to care for.

"Hoy es hoy y mañana no existe. Hay que vivirla intensamente."

6-05-2020

I already know and completely understand the economic aspects you noted.

We all sympathize with the situation, not only here in Z, as well as in many other parts of the world, and realize it is quite dire.

It has been and still is a "Catch 22" situation, trying to balance the economy with health safety.
Evidence shows that the two just don't mix well with the Covid-19 worldwide epidemic.

My point was:
IF I was a traveler, for ME PERSONALLY, I would not travel to México until as I said, the "Green Light" (or whatever it's called) is given, and all phases (1, 2, or 3) are "off the radar", and la "nueva realidad " / realidad is set and underway, and things are "good to go".

Others, may take your suggestion, and choose to travel & accept the risk that implies, and hope/assume that they will be safe exercising the recommended precautions as instructed by Dr. López-Gatel and the SSA.

Again, for me, e.g. under the current Fase 3/Semáforo ROJO situation, IF I was considering travelling into México for a vacation, it's a risk that is not necessary, & I would not take it. For the time being, that would be my advice.

You appear to have missed the point that the risk is not to the tourists but to the locals. We have 18 confirmed cases here as far as I know. Everyone coming here from any northern or inland cities is coming from a place with a higher level of contagion. The Semáforo Rojo designation is not an indicator of the danger to tourists visiting the Zihuatanejo region, and you appear to be using it in a manner in which it was not intended, something I believe is an unhelpful and incorrect signal to give to potential visitors.

But thank you for your opinion.

6/05/2020

My point was:
IF I was a traveler, for ME PERSONALLY, I would not travel to México until as I said, the "Green Light" (or whatever it's called) is given, and all phases (1, 2, or 3) are "off the radar", and la "nueva realidad " / normalidad is set and underway, and things are "good to go".

Others, may take your suggestion, and choose to travel & accept the risk that implies, and hope/assume that they will be safe exercising the recommended precautions as instructed by Dr. López-Gatel and the SSA.

Again, for me, e.g. under the current Fase 3/Semáforo ROJO situation, IF I was considering travelling into México for a vacation, it's a risk that is not necessary, & I would not take it. For the time being, that would be my advice.

6/05/2020
@ZihuaRob
Re:

You appear to have missed the point that the risk is not to the tourists but to the locals. We have 18 confirmed cases here as far as I know. Everyone coming here from any northern or inland cities is coming from a place with a higher level of contagion. The Semáforo Rojo designation is not an indicator of the danger to tourists visiting the Zihuatanejo region, and you appear to be using it in a manner in which it was not intended, something I believe is an unhelpful and incorrect signal to give to potential visitors.

But thank you for your opinion.

NO, I did NOT "miss the point".
I completely understand about the risks to locals &/or visitors/tourists/vacationers.

As far as....

"The Semáforo Rojo designation is not an indicator of the danger to tourists visiting the Zihuatanejo region "....

What I am trying to convey is, IF I was a vacationer contemplating a trip to ANYWHERE IN MEXICO, I simply am not comfortable with the fact that designation is in place, it just doesn't sit well with me.

https://www.milenio.com/politica/coronavirus-mexico-entra-normalidad-semaforo-rojo

While here in Z, the cases are relatively low in comparison to many other Mexican cities, nevertheless, GUERRERO is among the many states on the Semáforo Rojo illustration, and Zihuatanejo is in GRO.
From what I can see, and correct me IF I am wrong, is that the illustration does not make any city-by-city distinctions as to the level of the problem in a particular town or city in any Entidad Federativa, again being aware that it does vary from one extreme to another depending on which city or town it is.

My point is a personal observation/preference, and not intended to be helpful or "unhelpful" as accused.
It's just what I consider to be prudent to protect my health.
Again, if I was going to Mexico for a vacation, I would postpone that travel until all phases of the contingencia are gone, and things are "good to go", no worries.

If others see my personal preference to be imprudent or wrong as you seem to do, so be it. We'll have to "agree to disagree".

--
jaui

/05/2020

My point was:
IF I was a traveler, for ME PERSONALLY, I would not travel to México until as I said, the "Green Light" (or whatever it's called) is given, and all phases (1, 2, or 3) are "off the radar", and la "nueva realidad " / normalidad is set and underway, and things are "good to go".

Others, may take your suggestion, and choose to travel & accept the risk that implies, and hope/assume that they will be safe exercising the recommended precautions as instructed by Dr. López-Gatel and the SSA.

Again, for me, e.g. under the current Fase 3/Semáforo ROJO situation, IF I was considering travelling into México for a vacation, it's a risk that is not necessary, & I would not take it. For the time being, that would be my advice.

6/05/2020
@ZihuaRob
Re:

You appear to have missed the point that the risk is not to the tourists but to the locals. We have 18 confirmed cases here as far as I know. Everyone coming here from any northern or inland cities is coming from a place with a higher level of contagion. The Semáforo Rojo designation is not an indicator of the danger to tourists visiting the Zihuatanejo region, and you appear to be using it in a manner in which it was not intended, something I believe is an unhelpful and incorrect signal to give to potential visitors.

But thank you for your opinion.

NO, I did NOT "miss the point".
I completely understand about the risks to locals &/or visitors/tourists/vacationers.

Whether or not....
"The Semáforo Rojo designation is not an indicator of the danger to tourists visiting the Zihuatanejo region"....
If I was a vacationer contemplating a trip to ANYWHERE IN MEXICO, I simply am not comfortable with the fact that designation is in place, it just doesn't sit well with me.

While here in Z, the cases are relatively low in comparison to many other Mexican cities, nevertheless, GUERRERO is among the many states on the Semáforo Rojo illustration, and Zihuatanejo is in GRO.
From what I can see, and correct me IF I am wrong, is that the illustration does not make any city-by-city distinctions as to the level of the problem in a particular town or city in any Entidad Federativa, again being aware that it does vary from one extreme to another depending on which city or town it is.

My point is a personal observation/preference, and not intended to be helpful or "unhelpful" as accused.
It's just what I consider to be prudent to protect my health.
Again, if I was going to Mexico for a vacation, I would postpone that travel until all phases of the contingencia are gone, and things are "good to go", no worries.

If others see my personal preference to be imprudent or wrong as you seem to do, so be it. We'll have to "agree to disagree".

I think it is wise to seek outside information. The Pictures and film being shown on the worldwide press seem to indicate that Mexico's numbers are being suppressed in an attempt to lure tourists back. With Tourism the second largest part of the entire economy it's important to keep a stiff upper lip, that said the smokestacks burning 24/7 and thousands of new grave sites as well as a 300 % increase in death certificates seems to show ample evidence the Mexican Government is not being truthful about the Pandemic.

Watching people complaining about the stench of death from the thousands of unburried and uncreamated bodies as well as the pictures of the bodys stacked up at Mexican creamatoriums seems to back you that Mexico is fudging its numbers to get the economy up and going.

I think your going to see more people fleeing than returning anytime soon.

Question the Govt, no matter what govt.

/05/2020

My point was:
IF I was a traveler, for ME PERSONALLY, I would not travel to México until as I said, the "Green Light" (or whatever it's called) is given, and all phases (1, 2, or 3) are "off the radar", and la "nueva realidad " / normalidad is set and underway, and things are "good to go".

Others, may take your suggestion, and choose to travel & accept the risk that implies, and hope/assume that they will be safe exercising the recommended precautions as instructed by Dr. López-Gatel and the SSA.

Again, for me, e.g. under the current Fase 3/Semáforo ROJO situation, IF I was considering travelling into México for a vacation, it's a risk that is not necessary, & I would not take it. For the time being, that would be my advice.

6/05/2020
@ZihuaRob
Re:

You appear to have missed the point that the risk is not to the tourists but to the locals. We have 18 confirmed cases here as far as I know. Everyone coming here from any northern or inland cities is coming from a place with a higher level of contagion. The Semáforo Rojo designation is not an indicator of the danger to tourists visiting the Zihuatanejo region, and you appear to be using it in a manner in which it was not intended, something I believe is an unhelpful and incorrect signal to give to potential visitors.

But thank you for your opinion.

NO, I did NOT "miss the point".
I completely understand about the risks to locals &/or visitors/tourists/vacationers.

Whether or not....
"The Semáforo Rojo designation is not an indicator of the danger to tourists visiting the Zihuatanejo region"....
If I was a vacationer contemplating a trip to ANYWHERE IN MEXICO, I simply am not comfortable with the fact that designation is in place, it just doesn't sit well with me.

While here in Z, the cases are relatively low in comparison to many other Mexican cities, nevertheless, GUERRERO is among the many states on the Semáforo Rojo illustration, and Zihuatanejo is in GRO.
From what I can see, and correct me IF I am wrong, is that the illustration does not make any city-by-city distinctions as to the level of the problem in a particular town or city in any Entidad Federativa, again being aware that it does vary from one extreme to another depending on which city or town it is.

My point is a personal observation/preference, and not intended to be helpful or "unhelpful" as accused.
It's just what I consider to be prudent to protect my health.
Again, if I was going to Mexico for a vacation, I would postpone that travel until all phases of the contingencia are gone, and things are "good to go", no worries.

If others see my personal preference to be imprudent or wrong as you seem to do, so be it. We'll have to "agree to disagree".

I think it is wise to seek outside information. The Pictures and film being shown on the worldwide press seem to indicate that Mexico's numbers are being suppressed in an attempt to lure tourists back. With Tourism the second largest part of the entire economy it's important to keep a stiff upper lip, that said the smokestacks burning 24/7 and thousands of new grave sites as well as a 300 % increase in death certificates seems to show ample evidence the Mexican Government is not being truthful about the Pandemic.

Watching people complaining about the stench of death from the thousands of unburried and uncreamated bodies as well as the pictures of the bodys stacked up at Mexican creamatoriums seems to back you that Mexico is fudging its numbers to get the economy up and going.

I think your going to see more people fleeing than returning anytime soon.

Question the Govt, no matter what govt.

Now this has gone on a very unpleasant tangent.

There is no conspiracy to hide or to suppress numbers by the government, and if you're getting your news in English or from a PAN-sponsored media, I seriously doubt its veracity. That lie has been out there practically since day one, same as the lie about our president saying he's protected from the virus by good-luck charms. No matter how many times Dr. Hugo López-Gatell or I try to explain it, for some odd reason the explanation seems to drift off into the nethers and the conspiracy theory returns, probably because we all know a certain government doing precisely that.

The Mexican federal government is not suppressing numbers, and just because yellow journalists report smokestacks burning 24/7, that is not evidence of anything other than fanciful imaginations as the virus progresses exactly as predicted, its progress thankfully slowed by that same federal government's Secretaría de Salud everyone is accusing of lying. You can listen to the doctor or not, but if you don't then your source of news is where the problem is, not Mexico's federal government which every single day since day one has been forthright, transparent and professional, if not somewhat unorthodox according to the standards other countries are measuring their own actions by.

If you're seeing thousands of new grave sites then you aren't even seeing Mexican news, because the federal government ordered all Covid-19 deaths to be incinerated, not handled and prepared for traditional burials. No one in Mexico is complaining about the stench of bodies. You must be getting news from Ecuador or somewhere else where they have such problems. A "300% increase in death certificates" for who where and for what time period? For one part of Mexico City? Since the beginning of March? Again, you make comments that are not supported by the facts as we know them.

Here are the facts from today's briefing.

https://youtu.be/rBIcGR_qwV8

Thank you Rob.

Yes, this is a very incendiary topic, and it's time to realize that countries deal with it in their own ways.

Living here, our only "concern" is that outsiders will bring the virus with them. Here? We feel very safe and happy, except for what is happening to our friends and neighbors here that can't make a living.

Healthy?? Come here, enjoy yourselves, and help the tourist industry. We love sharing our paradise with you.

because of Covid no paper forms were passed out on our AA flight from PVR to Chicago No food or drinks either Nothing exchanged at all no duty free etc etc

Hola.
Our flight with AeroMexico to Vancouver, BC was not your typical AeroMexico flight. We were changed for baggage for the first time ever. The plane was completely full. No empty seats anywhere. They did give out some snacks and we got a couple of beer. We had heard there was no food on the plane, so we got a sandwich at the airport restaurant to go and had a couple of real cold beer there.
PS Our flight was from Mexico City. Don't know what is available at the Zihua airport.