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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 20:47 (2156 days ago)


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As of today Zihuatanejo has registered a cumulative total of 1,558 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (same as yesterday), 124 that have resulted in fatalities, 7 that are currently active, and approximately 1,323 that have recovered. It looks like folks are taking good enough care of themselves to keep the virus from getting out of control here.

Somehow most of us seem to be getting by here on reduced income, reduced mobility and reduced socializing. Many businesses are still not open, some because they can't afford to buy inventory to sell, others because they are respecting sanitary protocols and don't want their places of business to become potential hot zones, and others simply went out of business. It'll take years to rebuild Zihuatanejo's economy, but first our "authorities" responsible for attracting tourists need to learn how to attract more than simply busloads of people with almost no money to spend. One planeload is easily better than 10 busloads, but since our public servants get paid whether they do their jobs well or not, they seem not to care. They continue touting the "Blue Flag" and "certified" beaches which continue to run off families with pets at the absolute worst time in our history.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 21:14 (2156 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thank you.

It's nice to have someone realize and be vocal about what is really happening.

It's tough. People are NOT getting by. Those of us that are retired/don't work are doing what we can to support the economy, but people are barely getting by.

Welcome to paradise. Please visit. We want you to come here and be great visitors with masks, social distancing and understanding.

Please do visit your place in the sun. We are still the place you love to visit, dream about and support.

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by D-Loco, Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 22:38 (2156 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Thank you.

It's nice to have someone realize and be vocal about what is really happening.

It's tough. People are NOT getting by. Those of us that are retired/don't work are doing what we can to support the economy, but people are barely getting by.

Welcome to paradise. Please visit. We want you to come here and be great visitors with masks, social distancing and understanding.

Please do visit your place in the sun. We are still the place you love to visit, dream about and support.

Folks that love their vacation destinations that they visited many times will do everything to find a way to come. As we read here and other forums for other destinations many are saying they will wait until there is no threat. And the ones that would be first timers most likely wont want to spend the money only having to mask up, limited bars which like it or not is what vacationers like and then the restrictions for restaurants and such. There's hope for when all these obstacles go away but at this point who knows when.

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by RNLizzy1, Thursday, December 17, 2020, 11:54 (2156 days ago) @ D-Loco

Speaking of restaurants, we plan to isolate when we get to Zihua in January. Are restaurants still delivering? Takeout?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, December 17, 2020, 12:48 (2156 days ago) @ RNLizzy1

Speaking of restaurants, we plan to isolate when we get to Zihua in January. Are restaurants still delivering? Takeout?

Yes, but service may be limited depending on your location. Living downtown we think we have a terrific variety of restaurants that either deliver or offer take-out where we can walk to pick it up.

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Thursday, December 17, 2020, 00:56 (2156 days ago) @ Talley Ho

While I sympathize with those who are hard hit by the pandemic both here and in Zihuatanejo and everywhere else, traveling at this time is an unacceptable risk to my health and is being strongly discouraged by essentially all experts. We will be back as soon as we receive both doses of the vaccine, which with a bit of luck should happen be March.

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by Craig AKA the cruise ship guy @, Thursday, December 17, 2020, 08:20 (2156 days ago) @ Timmac

Came to Zihua at the end of October and Cabo for Thanksgiving. What a difference, Cabo had plenty of gringos and while in Ixtapa for a week we only saw 1 other group of gringos and that was on Isla Ixtapa. We ate dinner most every night in Zihua and all the places were really dead. Not the case in Cabo, the marina area was very busy. Zihua just doesn’t attract new tourists anymore from the States. Most all the gringos that travel here are older and believe that traveling is too risky for them. Coming from California there are so many flights going to Cabo and so few going to Zihua. We discovered this place almost 20 years ago when we used to cruise, maybe with the new pier the ships might come back and some younger people will discover Zihua. Zihua already had declining tourism before Covid now it has basically only National tourists which from what I saw at the Azul Grand do little for the local economy.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, December 17, 2020, 09:22 (2156 days ago) @ Craig AKA the cruise ship guy

Came to Zihua at the end of October and Cabo for Thanksgiving. What a difference, Cabo had plenty of gringos and while in Ixtapa for a week we only saw 1 other group of gringos and that was on Isla Ixtapa. We ate dinner most every night in Zihua and all the places were really dead. Not the case in Cabo, the marina area was very busy. Zihua just doesn’t attract new tourists anymore from the States. Most all the gringos that travel here are older and believe that traveling is too risky for them. Coming from California there are so many flights going to Cabo and so few going to Zihua. We discovered this place almost 20 years ago when we used to cruise, maybe with the new pier the ships might come back and some younger people will discover Zihua. Zihua already had declining tourism before Covid now it has basically only National tourists which from what I saw at the Azul Grand do little for the local economy.

Excellent observations! :dude:

Can anyone even recall seeing an ad on TV or in ANY media for Zihuatanejo? Not Ixtapa, Zihuatanejo. There are none. And the few that show up on YouTube are pretty bad from my point of view. Either they use terrible music that has NOTHING to do with Zihuatanejo or they promote swimming with dolphins or they are so superficial they might as well be advertising Disney World. No one receiving an inflated salary for promoting our destination seems to understand what Zihuatanejo is all about or care, they just want to fill Ixtapa's hotels which seems to keep the politicians content, and the budgets keep flowing, and more concrete gets poured and more lodgings get built that we can't ever fill. We aren't in competition with Cancún or Los Cabos or Acapulco. We are in our own category. Bars shouldn't be our main attraction as someone else commenting here said was important to them. Certainly not enough to warrant canceling a vacation. Christ, buy a six-pack or a bottle and make friends at the beach if you need drinking buddies so much. For the formative years that led to Zihuatanejo's "discovery" before there ever was Ixtapa, people came here and met each other. They enjoyed the natural beauty. They went fishing, diving, walking. They explored the coastal communities. They enjoyed the peace and quiet that was a welcome change from the noisy cities they came from. There was no TV, almost no telephone service, and that was JUST FINE. No one worried about talking to anyone back home daily, they sent them a post card instead which often arrived long after they had already returned. That was when you could walk down the street and not be able to easily distinguish millionaires or famous people from anyone else, and THAT was part of the attraction. Now we can't even have Tik-Toc "stars" from China without a crowd showing up just to get a glimpse. WTF?

Tourism is fickle and should never be the only source of income for any economy. Even Florida finally learned that lesson back when I still lived there. And they certainly know that lesson throughout the Caribbean islands, too. We should never change our community to conform to a sector of tourism. Quite the contrary. The community is what should be preserved and built upon. But we still need to get the word out. Cruise ships are one way for people to discover us and see that we are quite different and distinct from other destinations they visit along our coast. But there must also be publicity campaigns and reliable sources of information that accurately reflect and promote our destination so that we don't end up with folks looking for Acapulco-style entertainment or a Miami Beach lifestyle or even a Daytona Beach atmosphere. I certainly hope we never end up like those places, but so many people have moved here from other places that they have no reference to orient them. They have quite different ideas of tourism, and buses full of people albeit with no real purchasing power look just fine to them. Obviously a city of over 100,000 people cannot live from the bus tourism, and the big All-Included hotels in Ixtapa can only lower their rates so much, and the time-share sharks can only snag so many people. The more we build the less attractive we become and the more we continue to chase away the people who made Zihuatanejo prosperous. All those luxury homes that get built sit mostly empty much of the year. That isn't the solution. Zihuatanejo was most prosperous when the area's main hotels were the Calpulli, the Catalina and the Villa del Sol. The people with money to spend who visited then often rented simple homes, not luxury homes, because THAT was what they enjoyed. But Zihuatanejo hasn't had leaders or people in charge of the tourist industry who know what they're doing for well over 20 years, and it shows. Too much of an every-man-for-himself greedy atmosphere.

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by RNLizzy1, Thursday, December 17, 2020, 11:15 (2156 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Zihua is quiet? Zihua has nothing going on? FANTASTIC!! We adults who have grown out of needing bars and parties to enjoy life, absolutely LOVE the atmosphere and the feeling of community. A couple of years ago, during our annual 3 month visit, I fell in the street. (No, I'm not a little old lady). When I looked up, there were SIX total strangers asking me if I needed help. Some were tourists, some were shop owners. Coming to Zihua is like coming home. We hope it never changes. Fingers crossed!

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by Leemr @, Thursday, December 17, 2020, 14:13 (2156 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

AMEN, Rob !!