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Today Zihuatanejo registered about 100 less currently active cases of Covid-19 than yesterday. 343 for Zihuatanejo, 18 for La Unión, and 46 for Petatlán. Hmmm. And a few more deaths.

A hot night followed by another hot day. You'd never know we were in Semáforo Naranja. Total absence of authority downtown. There were noisy drunken parties on the beach, made worse by the echo chamber that used to be a garden in front of our home, and of course boombox cars parked in the streets making their own parties with trunks full of booze and other goodies. Hey, it's fine that folks are having a good time, but nighttime is for sleeping, so why can't the party animals respect the sleeping folks? And what the hell is wrong with the local government that it can't even patrol downtown Zihuatanejo enforcing a semblance of order especially on a Saturday night? I think we already know.

It looks like the Consulta Popular was a bust. Less than the 7.07% needed of the voting population participated, meaning no special process will be undertaken to scrutinize previous political administrations. However, I believe it's the opinion of the majority of Mexicans that if there is evidence that crimes were committed by any previous political actors, then they should be prosecuted under the law and no public consultation should be necessary. The law is the law and should be applied to all equally. This was entirely expected and predictable. Especially in the middle of a worsening pandemia.

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The pixelated paseo.
The old and the new minus the tall and the leafy and about two meters of sandy beach.

It looks like the Consulta Popular was a bust. Less than the 7.07% needed of the voting population participated, meaning no special process will be undertaken to scrutinize previous political administrations. However, I believe it's the opinion of the majority of Mexicans that if there is evidence that crimes were committed by any previous political actors, then they should be prosecuted under the law and no public consultation should be necessary. The law is the law and should be applied to all equally. This was entirely expected and predictable. Especially in the middle of a worsening pandemia.

Instead of “Less than the 7.07% needed of the voting population participated…” that should read “Less than the 40% needed of the voting population participated…”

Pardon the brainfart.

EXCERPT FROM POST BY ZihuaRob--->

.............."You'd never know we were in Semáforo Naranja. Total absence of authority downtown. There were noisy drunken parties on the beach, made worse by the echo chamber that used to be a garden in front of our home, and of course boombox cars parked in the streets making their own parties with trunks full of booze and other goodies. Hey, it's fine that folks are having a good time, but nighttime is for sleeping, so why can't the party animals respect the sleeping folks? And what the hell is wrong with the local government that it can't even patrol downtown Zihuatanejo enforcing a semblance of order especially on a Saturday night? I think we already know.

Thanks for your 110% accurate and honest analysis.

The supposed "Autoridades" seem to be incapable to accept (and actively enforce) the concept of "nighttime is for sleeping", and see to it the the population has a reasonable semblance of "paz y tranquilidad", especialmente durante el horario en cuando la mayoría de nosotros seres humanos estamos tratando de descansar y dormir tranquilamente en nuestras casas.

Cabe mencionar que he investigado a fondo el tema, y he encontrado que existen Normas Ambientales, Bando de Policía, Derechos Humanos, Derechos Constitucionales, etc., para apoyar legalmente ese concepto de que tenemos derecho a disfrutar de la paz y la tranquilidad, mientras que estemos en nuestros hogares, SIN ser perturbados, que la "Autoridad" local no se aplican.

EXCERPT FROM POST BY ZihuaRob--->

.............."You'd never know we were in Semáforo Naranja. Total absence of authority downtown. There were noisy drunken parties on the beach, made worse by the echo chamber that used to be a garden in front of our home, and of course boombox cars parked in the streets making their own parties with trunks full of booze and other goodies. Hey, it's fine that folks are having a good time, but nighttime is for sleeping, so why can't the party animals respect the sleeping folks? And what the hell is wrong with the local government that it can't even patrol downtown Zihuatanejo enforcing a semblance of order especially on a Saturday night? I think we already know.

Thanks for your 110% accurate and honest analysis.

The supposed "Autoridades" seem to be incapable to accept (and actively enforce) the concept of "nighttime is for sleeping", and see to it the the population has a reasonable semblance of "paz y tranquilidad", especialmente durante el horario en cuando la mayoría de nosotros seres humanos estamos tratando de descansar y dormir tranquilamente en nuestras casas.

Cabe mencionar que he investigado a fondo el tema, y he encontrado que existen Normas Ambientales, Bando de Policía, Derechos Humanos, Derechos Constitucionales, etc., para apoyar legalmente ese concepto de que tenemos derecho a disfrutar de la paz y la tranquilidad, mientras que estemos en nuestros hogares, SIN ser perturbados, que la "Autoridad" local no se aplican.

No es que son incapaces. Eso no lo es. Es una falta de voluntad ya que sólo simulan sus deberes. Y aparte, el negocio del alcohol es el narco legal, y hay mucha lana para compartir.

Maybe some figure taking a siesta in the afternoon justifies raising hell till wee hours of the morning.

Maybe some figure taking a siesta in the afternoon justifies raising hell till wee hours of the morning.

Our experience is that the alkie culture is generally made up of people who are simply boorish and ill-mannered. We've watched successive generations grow up, each with poorer manners than their predecessors, kids raised by parents with poor manners who raise kids with poorer manners. A vicious cycle. Sociocultural dilution and pollution. No one wants to talk about the population problem, but what I describe is part of it.

Not that it makes it better, but Mexico isn't alone. Don't know about Canada, but the US suffers the same fate.

EXCERPT FROM POST BY ZihuaRob--->

.............."You'd never know we were in Semáforo Naranja. Total absence of authority downtown. There were noisy drunken parties on the beach, made worse by the echo chamber that used to be a garden in front of our home, and of course boombox cars parked in the streets making their own parties with trunks full of booze and other goodies. Hey, it's fine that folks are having a good time, but nighttime is for sleeping, so why can't the party animals respect the sleeping folks? And what the hell is wrong with the local government that it can't even patrol downtown Zihuatanejo enforcing a semblance of order especially on a Saturday night? I think we already know.

Thanks for your 110% accurate and honest analysis.

The supposed "Autoridades" seem to be incapable to accept (and actively enforce) the concept of "nighttime is for sleeping", and see to it the the population has a reasonable semblance of "paz y tranquilidad", especialmente durante el horario en cuando la mayoría de nosotros seres humanos estamos tratando de descansar y dormir tranquilamente en nuestras casas.

Cabe mencionar que he investigado a fondo el tema, y he encontrado que existen Normas Ambientales, Bando de Policía, Derechos Humanos, Derechos Constitucionales, etc., para apoyar legalmente ese concepto de que tenemos derecho a disfrutar de la paz y la tranquilidad, mientras que estemos en nuestros hogares, SIN ser perturbados, que la "Autoridad" local no se aplican.

No es que son incapaces. Eso no lo es. Es una falta de voluntad ya que sólo simulan sus deberes. Y aparte, el negocio del alcohol es el narco legal, y hay mucha lana para compartir.

Yes, de acerdo: Unwilling is a better way to put it, versus "incapable" (incapaces) as I mentioned above.
Hay bastantes cosas que conocemos y vemos a las que el Gobierno local presta poca o NULA atención.
Y en cuanto a que "sólo simulan sus deberes", muchas veces he dicho que son chicos disfrazados de policías, que andan en sus carros "alegóricos" (patrol cars), como si estuvieran en un desfile.
Y el hecho de que "el negocio del alcohol es el narco legal, y hay mucha lana para compartir", es muy evidente.
Así se explica la corrupción y la impunidad que está "al orden del día", y el rechazo de hacer valer los Reglamentos, etc.
Para concluir con el tema, desde mi punto de vista, y probablemente entre los ciudadanos locales, las Policías Municipales son la corporación más desprestigiada de la sociedad local, no tienen muchos "fans".

Not that it makes it better, but Mexico isn't alone. Don't know about Canada, but the US suffers the same fate.

8/03/2021

@catlover

Because we are here in Z, we are commenting particularly on the local situation.
No doubt that as Z Rob described it:
"alkie culture is generally made up of people who are simply boorish and ill-mannered. We've watched successive generations grow up, each with poorer manners than their predecessors, kids raised by parents with poor manners who raise kids with poorer manners. A vicious cycle ",
as you mentioned, the same/similar conduct occurs in the US, & many other places.
This refers to a certain segment of the "alkie culture", and in no way is a "blanket" statement for all who consume it, be them alcoholics or just casual drinkers.

Not that it makes it better, but Mexico isn't alone. Don't know about Canada, but the US suffers the same fate.

8/03/2021

@catlover

Because we are here in Z, we are commenting particularly on the local situation.
No doubt that as Z Rob described it:
"alkie culture is generally made up of people who are simply boorish and ill-mannered. We've watched successive generations grow up, each with poorer manners than their predecessors, kids raised by parents with poor manners who raise kids with poorer manners. A vicious cycle ",
as you mentioned, the same/similar conduct occurs in the US, & many other places.
This refers to a certain segment of the "alkie culture", and in no way is a "blanket" statement for all who consume it, be them alcoholics or just casual drinkers.

Exactly.

I'm speaking more to what I've witnessed not just in my lifetime, but especially here in this region of Mexico. There was a time here in Zihuatanejo and the region when young people were respectful, especially to their elders. Then a few thousand outsiders from all social and economic classes (mostly from larger cities) brought their bad habits with them, and our local culture was overwhelmed. First with loud unruly ill-mannered neighbors, then multiplying with their offspring who didn't know any better, and of course more outsiders. Neighbors used to be quite considerate here, and loud unruly people were the exception, not the norm we see today. In Zihuatanejo it used to be quiet at around 10:00 PM. Nowadays that's when all the "party animals" are just warming up. A boombox car in the 70's was not something you could hear blocks away or that rattled your windows and walls. Again, now the norm, which is why many cities have noise ordinances. Heck, we may even have them here, but we don't have (enough) public servants who care or who have the will to enforce them. The result is the apparent lawlessness that I and so many of my neighbors complain about.

Now if I'm mistaken, then I invite any local public official to set me straight. They have always been welcome to respond to me here and elsewhere. No lanzo la piedra para luego ocultar la mano. Yo si respondo por mis palabras y mis acciones.

8/03/2021

@ZihuaRob

Thanks again for your reply.
MUY bien dicho, very well said.

Now that we've done our fair share of criticizing, what would be some suggestions for a solution to some of the more problematic aspects of the "Alkie epidemic" that some citizens may find to be quite annoying as you've described?
Or maybe due to the fact that "hay mucha lana para compartir", and that "kid's just wanna' have fun", there isn't one?