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by jeffc, Monday, October 14, 2024, 09:29 (756 days ago)

Glad to have this web site as a reference it has some great stuff and covers a lot.

Maybe I missed it, but what's the best place (and time) to get:
fresh fruits and veggies?
fresh fish and seafood?

Tried looking for hiking clubs, but there doesn't seem to be any (ixtapa nor Zihua side).

I came across this https://www.zihuatanejo.net/zihuatanejo/index.html#clubs which seems to have some NGOs etc..
just wondering if there are volunteer groups we can join (in the mornings preferably). I heard the ex-pats do a lot of volunteering for the community etc... something we'd be interested in.

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by jeffc, Monday, October 14, 2024, 09:47 (756 days ago) @ jeffc

opps, and cooking classes (mexican food)

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by Padrino ⌂ @, Rosarito/Zihuatanejo, Monday, October 14, 2024, 10:01 (756 days ago) @ jeffc

Glad to have this web site as a reference it has some great stuff and covers a lot.

Maybe I missed it, but what's the best place (and time) to get:
fresh fruits and veggies?
fresh fish and seafood?

Tried looking for hiking clubs, but there doesn't seem to be any (ixtapa nor Zihua side).

I came across this https://www.zihuatanejo.net/zihuatanejo/index.html#clubs which seems to have some NGOs etc..
just wondering if there are volunteer groups we can join (in the mornings preferably). I heard the ex-pats do a lot of volunteering for the community etc... something we'd be interested in.

There is a hiking group that I had the happy opportunity to stumble upon. If you send me your contact email, after getting the consent of the local who invited me to come with her, I can send you her contact information. We hiked up one of the lomas in the later afternoon and were treated to awesome sunset views of both the Bahia Zihua and the Ixtapa coastline.

Susan G will most certainly ping you for volunteering with the animal shelter that is right next to the downtown municipal cancha.

Every morning, fresh fish is offered downtown by the pescaderos who have been fishing all night long. This is also next to the cancha.

The Mercado Municipal and surrounding areas are ripe with an incredible selection of fresh produce as well as meats. On Saturday mornings, the Mercado Eco-Tianguis market has some dynamite organic fruits and veggies as well as vegan food.

Best wishes for starting your long-term long affair with Zihuatanejo!

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by Little Guy @, Monday, October 14, 2024, 11:03 (756 days ago) @ jeffc

Here’s my favorite options and one from a friend.

I used to get my fish and seafood at the mercado. A couple of years ago I was introduced to PKS. It is now my “go to” place for fresh fish and for seafood.

Much of the seafood is frozen. Remember… camarones cannot be landed at Zihuatanejo, so they are always “previously frozen”. As much as I have really enjoyed pulpo in the past, in recent years I have given up octopus as they just seem to be too intelligent to kill. I have always avoided fish/seafood at the big box stores like Soriana/Mega, etc.

Shopping at the mercado is an experience. I know gringos who won’t go in be they don’t like seeing cow carcasses, chicken parts, etc. sitting in the tropical heat. And it can get stifling inside the mercado when the humidity rises. Thos gringose certainly don’t like seeing the flies being swatted away from the animal parts.

I usually buy my fruits and vegetables either at the mercado or in shops behind the mercado. Others prefer the big city experience of air conditioned big box stores like Soriana, La Bodega, or Sam’s Club. Regardless of where you buy fruits and vegetables, be sure to buy some disinfectant like MicroDyn, BacDyn, etc. and use it.

I had an American/Mexican friend who bought fish, seafood, fruits and vegetables locally. She was particular about lettuce though and would only buy the packaged lettuce from Sam’s Club that came with the root still on it.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, October 14, 2024, 13:11 (756 days ago) @ Little Guy

PKS is the absolute best.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, October 14, 2024, 13:10 (756 days ago) @ jeffc

This area is all about the ocean and beaches. Looking for things to do? Sit under an umbrella on the beach and people watch, bird and wave watch, eat lunch, swim, kayak, SUP, walk. We spend about 3 hours every day on the beach, and that doesn't include sitting. The "toys" are inexpensive to rent, and if you become addicted, you can work out a longer term rental deal with your favorite people.

In our opinions, the ocean and beaches are what this area is all about.

bike, hike, beach repeat

by jeffc, Monday, October 14, 2024, 15:34 (756 days ago) @ Talley Ho

plans are to hike, bike, beach repeat :)
wonderful place ixtapa and zihua is. Was there last year but only for 8 days so I didn't really get to explore all that much digging in deep into the details of the area and surroundings. This time, we're here for 2 months so we'll deep dive into the areas exploring many things this time around.
biking, hiking, beaching, eating etc... wonderful beaches, wonderful biking and some hiking but I have not explored it all has to offer yet. I hope to see more mountains etc...

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by frostbite @, Hamilton MT, Monday, October 14, 2024, 15:54 (756 days ago) @ jeffc

Go fishing. Catch and release the big ones or catch and keep the small ones. One of our favorite excursions is fishing for a few hours and then have folks at El Indio on Isla Ixtapa cook up some of our catch for lunch, while we snorkel at Playa Coral.

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by jeffc, Monday, October 14, 2024, 17:27 (756 days ago) @ frostbite

might just do that, my partner she just loves fishing so she'll enjoy that. I can't wait to eat fresh fish again. Just got back from BC canada, I couldn't believe on vancouver island they get most of their fish from alaska. When we were in Columbia we were in a little fishing village, amazing to see all the fish they hauled in. So tasty and its amazing seeing them haul in the fishing nets at the end of the day. So looking forward to fresh fish, fresh veggies and fruits and great mexican food. I need to detox from the processed foods I've been eating :)

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by Little Guy @, Monday, October 14, 2024, 17:51 (755 days ago) @ jeffc

I live on Vancouver Island and I eat a lot of fish. Mostly I eat BC fish caught in BC waters. Of course, sometimes BC fish is intercepted on the homeward migration to the Fraser River, the Skeena River, etc. The interception often occurs as the salmon go through Alaskan water.

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by jeffc, Tuesday, October 15, 2024, 08:09 (755 days ago) @ Little Guy

we just got back from vancouver island, tried looking for BC caught fish we were told most fish are imported from alaska. Was up in coal harbour, port hardy, port renfrew etc... we had to settle for alaska fish yet we saw the fishing boats at port. It sure does rain a lot there... 80% of our trip was spent in rain.

Visiting a Rainforest

by Little Guy @, Tuesday, October 15, 2024, 11:01 (755 days ago) @ jeffc

On Vancouver Island we love the rain. The salmon need it to feed the rivers and streams so that they can spawn. The forests need it so that they don’t burn in the summer.

As I tell people who visit… “If you want to visit a rain forest, expect rain.” ;-)

Visiting a Rainforest

by jeffc, Tuesday, October 15, 2024, 11:51 (755 days ago) @ Little Guy

rain it did, we hiked in it during the time we were there. We did a lot of https://vancouverislandbucketlist.com/maps/hiking-trail-map/ those trails. From victoria to port hardy then back again through to port renfrew. Chilly it was as well luckily we had an RV with heat and all the creature comforts. Not sure I could live there with the lack of sunshine and all that rain might drive me crazy.

Visiting a Rainforest

by Little Guy @, Thursday, October 17, 2024, 19:26 (752 days ago) @ jeffc

Not sure I could live there with the lack of sunshine and all that rain might drive me crazy.

Yes, acclimatizing to climate can be a big psychological task. I have met numerous people from Alberta and points east who moved to the mild BC coast in retirement, only to go back after one or two years living in a rainforest.

A friend from the coast came to stay with me for several weeks in Troncones one winter. In less than two weeks he was complaining that it was sunny everyday. He missed the day-after-day winter rain of Vancouver.

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by frostbite @, Hamilton MT, Tuesday, October 15, 2024, 11:54 (755 days ago) @ jeffc

Fish don't care about borders.:winkingface:

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by jeffc, Tuesday, October 15, 2024, 13:12 (755 days ago) @ frostbite

only the government does with their mindless laws, taxes and fees etc... if the government could it would erect walls all over the place - fish stay there now, be good little fish will you. The law states that you fish should...

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by Little Guy @, Thursday, October 17, 2024, 19:27 (752 days ago) @ frostbite

Fish don't care about borders.:winkingface:

True. But the people who pay to support the fishing industries sure care about protecting their investments.

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by Quadra Paul @, British Columbia, Tuesday, October 15, 2024, 14:04 (755 days ago) @ jeffc

"I couldn't believe on vancouver island they get most of their fish from alaska"

Very definitely NOT TRUE! You just went to the wrong places! I would be willing to bet that you didn't get very far out of Victoria! The farther up the island you go, the better the chance of getting local products! You will get lots of push-back on this site if you start bad mouthing Vancouver Island.

port hardy

by jeffc, Tuesday, October 15, 2024, 20:29 (754 days ago) @ Quadra Paul
edited by jeffc, Tuesday, October 15, 2024, 20:40

we were in port hardy and coal harbour looking for fresh fish - nothing. We were told to go to this place https://www.scarletpointseafoods.ca/ I asked them when I was there - where do you get your fish from. Alaska they said. We can't sell the local fish here they stated. So odd. Must be some messed up DFO rules or something. I worked for the feds for nearly 24 years so I realize how these messed up laws come into play etc... put people in power without much experience, knowledge and wisdom and messed up laws are formed that make no sense at all. I've seen that many of times.

It rains every damn day up there, not fun. We swore every damn day up there due to the rain every damn day. Wasn't fun at all. I can swear at my own country I hope...

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by Quadra Paul @, British Columbia, Thursday, October 17, 2024, 17:02 (753 days ago) @ jeffc

The local seafood was probably caught and sold by the natives. As for the weather, all you had to do was pack up and move south!

port hardy

by jeffc, Friday, October 18, 2024, 08:09 (752 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

the store stated they can not buy from the natives huge fines they stated. We started in victoria in a small rv worked our way up then down so we did the whole island pretty much including port renfrew. It pretty much rained every day and cold esp at night. Luckily we had heaters.

Food Fisheries and Commercial Fisheries

by Little Guy @, Friday, October 18, 2024, 09:49 (752 days ago) @ jeffc

the store stated they can not buy from the natives huge fines they stated.

It is correct that a store or other commercial operation “can not buy from the natives’” food fishery allocation. That catch is exclusively for use by First Nations.

It is not correct that “they can not buy from the natives” commercial fisheries. Many commercial fisheries licenses are held by First Nations’ interests.

Gwabalis Fisheries Group

The Gwabalis Fisheries Group is a partnership of the Mamalilikulla, Da’naxda’xw, Quatsino and Tlatlasikwala First Nations who came together to form a successful and growing, 100% First Nation owned and operated Commercial Fishing Business. Based in Northern Vancouver Island, our current business focus is to lease commercial fishing licences and quota while supporting First Nation fishermen; creating employment and training opportunities for our community members; and developing programs that support and build healthy and vibrant communities.

The Gwabalis Fisheries Limited Partnership, formed in 2019, oversees Gwabalis business operations. The Gwabalis Fisheries Society, formed in 2015, is focused on developing programs which promote our First Nations’ fishing culture, customs and way of life.

Our Member Nation territories include the land and rich marine areas around Northern Vancouver Island and the adjacent mainland, inlets and islands. The majority of our members live in North Island communities, including Campbell River, Alert Bay, Port Hardy and Quatsino.

Port Hardy Local Fish

by Little Guy @, Thursday, October 17, 2024, 19:37 (752 days ago) @ jeffc
edited by Little Guy, Thursday, October 17, 2024, 20:02

we were in port hardy and coal harbour looking for fresh fish - nothing. We were told to go to this place https://www.scarletpointseafoods.ca/ I asked them when I was there - where do you get your fish from. Alaska they said. We can't sell the local fish here they stated.

As a polite Canadian I don’t want to accuse you of anything. So I’ll just point out the discrepancy between what you report and what their website says.

About Us

All our fish is sourced from fisheries that meet internationally recognized Marine Stewardship Council (MSC) environmental standards for sustainable fishing MSC-C-51176. All our fish can be traced back to the catching vessel, date and area caught.

At Scarlet Point Seafoods Ltd. we only harvest and buy seafood from legal fisheries in Canada.

Scarlet Point Seafoods is committed to working with fisheries management agencies, local communities, First Nations, environmental groups, and other stakeholders to ensure effective resource management systems are implemented that promote sustainable harvest of marine resources and maintenance of healthy ecosystems.

That seems pretty unambiguous and consistent with what residents of Vancouver Island on this board report.

Port Hardy Local Fish

by jeffc, Friday, October 18, 2024, 08:13 (752 days ago) @ Little Guy

if in doubt call them, I asked - where do you get your fish. Alaska they stated. Give them a call if in doubt. When at Coal Harbour I asked the locals there - can we get fresh fish they pointed us to that store in port hardy.

I could see how DFO laws could come into play, the hiring practices at DFO are pretty fked to say the least - hire the most inexperienced person right out of school to make policies, governanace and laws. A mess builds empires in government seen that thousands and thousands of times. Be nice if they decentralized the federal level and brought back control/power to the local communities with people that have actually been in the front line and fished etc... that's not the way it is in ottawa at all! been there done that for 24 years seen my share of sht.

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Monday, October 14, 2024, 16:03 (756 days ago) @ jeffc

Two months isn't that long. Many of us have been here for years and are still discovering new things regularly.

I know ... one day

by jeffc, Monday, October 14, 2024, 17:29 (756 days ago) @ Talley Ho

One day I'll retire down there, very very soon hopefully... I love central and south america. I'm tired of winter etc... life down there is so wonderful and simple living is good living. You folks are lucky that's for sure. Its wonderful down there.

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by Little Guy @, Monday, October 14, 2024, 17:55 (755 days ago) @ jeffc

biking, hiking, beaching, eating etc... wonderful beaches, wonderful biking and some hiking but I have not explored it all has to offer yet. I hope to see more mountains etc...

If you decide to go inland, I suggest a trip to the town of Tequila. If I didn’t own in Troncones, I would be tempted to live in Tequila. It is in high desert country. Days are hot; nights can be pretty cool in the winter. I see that you have been to BC. If you made it to Kamloops in the summer, I think you would see parallels.

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by Sun Seeker, Monday, October 14, 2024, 22:08 (755 days ago) @ Little Guy

I agree. I also loved my stay in Tequila. :vivamexico: