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by Zihuateco @, Sunday, January 19, 2014, 19:20 (4608 days ago)

Any reports? I am considerering.

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by Lee@98223, Sunday, January 19, 2014, 19:25 (4608 days ago) @ Zihuateco

a little picturesque, a lot destitute when I was there 10 years ago,

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by Zihuateco @, Sunday, January 19, 2014, 20:04 (4608 days ago) @ Lee@98223

I found a iterestingly beach but a little concerned with the 3 hour drive from
the capital.

How safe did you feel?

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by Curly! @, Great Pacific Northwet, Monday, January 20, 2014, 09:34 (4608 days ago) @ Zihuateco

A couple of years back, my daughter and a friend got mugged in Managua, which you pretty much have to hit if you are flying in. They thought they were doing the right thing by taking a taxi at night but as it turned out, the taxi driver was part of the program. Picked up another guy that held the girls up and then they were dropped off in a highly undesirable part of town. Could have been worse, to say the least, but a downright nasty way to spend your first evening in town. She has traveled a lot (six months in Madrid, six months in Quito, weeks in Peru, Nic, Guatemala, the DR and Mexico). She speaks perfect Spanish (OB/GYN who spends much time doing clinic duty, mainly helping the Latino community of Denver). While she was able to calm herself and her friend to the point that they could enjoy the rest of their stay, I don't believe she would return to Nic again... she certainly would minimize her time in the capitol.

Your mileage may vary.

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by Curly! @, Great Pacific Northwet, Monday, January 20, 2014, 09:37 (4608 days ago) @ Curly!

By the by, the daughter will be joining us in Zihuatanejo in March, for her 30th birthday. It will be nice to have her back. Her last visit was eleven years ago.

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by Lee@98223, Monday, January 20, 2014, 10:17 (4608 days ago) @ Zihuateco

I felt safe, but I was with a health care mission, and spent minimal time in Managua. An enjoyable 10 days (and an education).

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by zihuarana, Sunday, January 19, 2014, 20:22 (4608 days ago) @ Zihuateco

We were in Nicaragua out 5 years ago during a central America trip and loved it . We crossed the border from Costa Rica at Los Chiles to San Carlos on a river crossing. Very and I mean basic customs and immigration process and then went down river on the San Juan river which is world famous for tarpon fishing. The area is primitive , no roads, just river boats stopping here and there to leave and pick up local people. we were the only tourists on the boat and the 4 hour trip to El Castillo was colorful and simply amazing through the jungle. there is a wonderful nature reserve called Indio Maiz where you can go on REAL jungle tour with plentiful critters big and small too....... the people are friendly and it helps if you have a little bit of Spanish. The only way out is either by going down to the carribean side or back to san carlos. I wished we had taken the boat which is both passenger and cargo (very rough crossing ,primitive facilities and 14 hrs of stop and go but time was running out. our next stop was flying to Managua on an 8 seater prop across lake Nicaragua. Very interesting flying checklist the pilots did or did not do.... a gravel airstrip and on a wing and prayer we made it to Managua. we took a cab directly to Antigua, and price was reasonable comparable to the shuttle price for two. we enjoyed Antigua as a gringofied colonial but very charming town. the area around such as Pacaya and local villages are awesome. we were there over New years and it was a delight to witness the processions, celebrations and horse drawn carriages.
we did not bother with San Juan del Sur where it is said that it is a bit like Zihua was years ago, a typical fishing village but now well known for surfing and on a smaller scale development for expats and tourists like in La Ropa. We can have that kind of vibe home in zihua so we took an overnight bus from Managua to San Salvador with 2 border crossings with no incident and in a very comfortable coach with attendant on board, clean washrooms, food, pillow, blanket and beverages. It is still a country full of young people but an inefficient (hum) government but life goes on and the population is still hopeful and so friendly wherever we visited. Note we did not spend anytime in Managua

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by zihuarana, Monday, January 20, 2014, 14:13 (4607 days ago) @ zihuarana

correction to my post yes Granada not Antigua and Masaya is the volcano area that was simply awesome.

Nicaragua Part One

by Larry in Duncan, Monday, January 20, 2014, 12:49 (4607 days ago) @ Zihuateco

I have recently return from a second trip to Nicaragua. Let me reassure you that Nica is a very safe and comfortable place. Parts of Managua can be sketchy but once you get away from the big city expect situation normal.
Take the usual care when travelling and everything will be just fine.

We travelled and stayed in a very remote area south of San Juan del Sur. This included numerous trips up 4x4 only roads to small villages. We picked up hitchhikers ever time we drove somewhere. (its part of the transportation "system";) Never ever, not even for a split second did we ever feel any concern. None!

here is the trip report from the first trip, I have not written up anything for the last trip. Feel free to PM with question.

Coco Beach, San Juan del Sur, Nicaragua. Feb 5 to Feb 20

Air Travel
Managua is not the easiest place to get to from Vancouver Island. Our outbound flights started at 3:30 pm YYJ-SEA, 5:45 SEA-LAS, 10:40 pm LAS-MIA and finally 10:45 am MIA to Managua. This is a tough itinerary as the 3 hour fast forward in time really makes the red-eye flight a punishment. As a treat I purchased a 30 day American Airlines Admirals Lounge pass for $100.00 that allowed all four of us lounge access in SEA, DFW, MIA. In Miami we found a quiet corner in the lounge to nap, have a few snacks and they even provide shower rooms to freshen up. The lounge pass was well worth the money for four people (member plus spouse and up to 2 children) Just in drinks and snacks alone over the course of the trip the $100 was recouped. Our arrival in Managua was on time. Immigration and customs was easy, just pay your $10 USD entry fee and in you go. We had packed four large bags of baseball gear and clothing to donate and had no hassle at all.
Our return was not so smooth. I received a call from AA the afternoon before our departure ($2.50 per minute on my cell) advising that our DFW-SEA flight was cancelled and rebooking was required. Thanks to a friend I was able to Skype with AA reservations for an hour and 24 mins to set up a new route. Without getting into all the details, it SUCKED - including switching carriers, airports and drastically changing flight times several times. I also couldn’t cancel my hotel in DFW on the return home layover. I was unable to get any straight answers from AA over the phone so I took the rebook and decided to have it out with AA in person once I reached MIA. Once in MIA I was able to reach an AA supervisor that actually listened and we got home MGA – MIA – DFW – YVR – YYJ. It took everything I had to get things done. I am a trained and experience negotiator, I have some idea of airline policy and I understand flight schedules. As a seasoned, battle hardened traveler I can sure see how many people get screwed by the big airlines. The fight continues over compensation as I type this. My opinion of American Airlines will be reserved until we resolve compensation for out of pocket expenses.

...update.............AA came through with reasonable compensation after the fact. It took a far bit of patience, research and digging. Our out of pocket expenses were covered and we received vouchers towards future travel. I am pleased with the outcome but disappointed that it was such a difficult process. Further, I remind everyone that the ONLY way to deal with airlines is with patience and knowledge. I navigated their system because I had solid knowledge and never got upset.


Car
Dollar Rental Car at the MGA Airport. Our reservation was perfect and the Grand Vitari 4X4 SUV was ready to roll. Paperwork was easy but you MUST look the vehicle over well and take pictures. The roads in Nicaragua are punishing on vehicles thus scratches, dents and missing parts are the norm. Our SUV had 22,000 km on it and ran well but it was a little beat up. Driving in Nica is not a lot different that Mexico in the way of road hazards (topes, potholes, cattle, farm tractors) but even in Managua the traffic was lighter and the drivers far less aggressive. As we traveled south out of town the driving conditions were almost relaxing. Signage can be sparse so pay attention to where you are. Also, I had heard a lot of stories about dishonest traffic cops and while it is a problem, we did not encounter it. I did get a traffic fine but it was totally legit, $12.00 for passing on a double solid line on the Pan-American Highway. I recommend that if you plan on staying anywhere off the main paved roads that you rent an SUV or pickup. While 4x4 is not required in the dry season (mandatory in the rainy season) it really makes the ride a lot more comfortable. Many of the roads are dirt and can be a rough ride. Overall, the driving experience was positive and hassle free. (tip, most gas stations sell the best icecream bars for a buck each)
The drive from MGA to SJDS is a full 2 ½ hours no matter how much you think you can Mario Andretti it. The traffic is slow. I giggled at the few aggressive drivers who flew by me then spent the next 5 miles stuck to the bumper of the truck ahead of me.
Out on the dirt roads it is common to pick up hitchhikers. The bus only goes by a couple times a day so rides are always appreciated. (and some folks just can’t afford to ride the bus) Don’t get freaked out if a mom and her kids are waving at you from the side of the road. They just want a ride. Be safe but be considerate. Road conditions could easily make you the next one needing a ride to town to fix a flat tire. If you believe in karma then you will understand.

Safety
The ugly truth of Nicaragua is that it is VERY VERY SAFE. Sorry to burst the bubble of all you ‘fraidy cats out there. I take great care of my wife and daughters when we travel. They need to BE safe and FEEL safe. Not once in two weeks did any one of us feel uncomfortable. We traveled through remote communities, made trips into small villages that didn’t even have connection to the power grid. The farther from ‘civilization’ we were the safer our surroundings. IMHO, the Nica people didn’t think we were anything special, just people like them. Our tourist status was not a target on our backs. I have always felt reasonably secure in Mexico but I have to admit that our experience in southern Nica was far safer, period.
The downside, particularly for those who are getting older, is that medical treatment outside of Managua is not the best. I managed to sustain a pretty nasty cut on my leg from a slip on some rocks. Stitches at the local ‘hospital’ in SJDS…(stomach turn)……not good. Lesson learned, pack you own first aid kit and take the 2 1/2 hour drive to Managua for care. I liken medical care outside of Managua to a MASH unit, keep them alive and ship them out to better facilities. I have seen my doctor here at home and I am perfectly fine but wounds need a great deal of care in the tropics.

Condo
We stayed about 30 mins south of San Juan del Sur (SJDS) in a very upscale condo complex of 20 units. Similar accommodations in Mexico (if you could actually get this close to the beach) would run $300 to $400 per night and we paid 1/3 of that. Our unit was 40 paces off the beach, the pool directly on the sand. Four bedrooms, AC, hot water, complete kitchen, quality furnishings, satellite t.v. and good linens. As power supply was often interrupted, the complex had a solid backup generator. Housekeeping, cooking, driving staff were available for hire at $10-15 per day. (a great wage in Nica) The howler monkeys in the trees outside our unit were a great source of entertainment. The pigs on the beach digging crabs were also a laugh. Two small corner stores provided a few supplies at prices almost too cheap to be true.

Location
Coco Beach is amazing. Perfect sunsets every day, nice breeze to stay cool, quiet, clean, easy surf………breathtaking. Being 30 mins from town was really okay with us. We also toured some of the other beaches and more often than not found ourselves alone. Season 21 and 22 of Survivor we shot here so were had “Survivor” afternoons on the beach. One beach we visited had a private road to it. I asked for passage offering $4.00 right up front. The owner told me the ‘toll’ was only $2.00. The smallest bill I had was $4.00. A fight almost ensued as I insisted no change was required but the local landowner absolutely insisted on finding the right change for me. I was really touched. I found this to be the norm in most of Nicaragua.

There are three restaurants at Coco Beach. Puesta del Sol (?) is on the beach and serves great meals from a great kitchen and really fantastic prices. Further south is Lug’s which has a more beach bar feel to it. Lug’s serves cold drinks and a reasonable meal is available from the kitchen. The owners are Canadian, eh, hence the laid back vibe of the place, eh. Verenara is a B+B type place and they are happy to burn up a take out pizza but you will have to order it in the mid afternoon so the cook can purchase the ingredients off the truck when it comes by. Delivery is available if one of the local kids happens to be going by on his bike, otherwise you will need to pick it up.

Food
Chicken, beans, rice, fruit and vegetables were the staples here. There wasn’t a lot of locally diverse fare available. If we would have been staying in SJDS then a few more restaurant meals may have changed our variety a bit. We were able to buy groceries at the local Mercado and at a supermarket type store. The produce truck also went by most days, or not, and at no particular time. They had some of this and some of that, or not, depending on the day. Prices were cheap in comparison to home.

Nicaragua Part Two

by Larry in Duncan, Monday, January 20, 2014, 12:49 (4607 days ago) @ Larry in Duncan

Miscellaneous thoughts.

Bone up on your Spanish. English is not readily spoken here and waiters and cabbies that usually learn some English from contact with tourists have not, in general, done so yet. Even a few simple words and phrases are extremely helpful. Counting to ten in Spanish may be your most used tool as most locals can not count to 10 in English.

If you have any need to call home buy a Nica cell phone ($20 buck) and a phone card. You can call home very cheap and cell coverage is very good.

Visit Granada! Stay overnight, or longer, and explore this wonderful colonial city. It is very similar to Patzcuarro and thus worth a visit.

Visit Masaya Volcano outside of Managua. This crater is producing smoke and gas continuously and it’s really fun to get up close. I swear if this was in the USA the area would be cordoned off 5 miles in every direction, for your safety (read as ‘so you don’t sue us’) Warning, if you suffer from respiratory sensitivity this may not be a good place to visit.

Cabs are cheap, use them. Busses between cities are really cheap, use them.

We met far more Canadians that Americans. It was weird………someone is maybe afraid after what Ollie North did there a few years back….??? I don’t know. Maybe we have a different way of infiltrating……instead of sending guns we are sending people and one day Canada will be empty and we will have taken over Nicaragua.

I missed the photo op…….vision two ox pulling a one axle cart loaded with firewood. Next place that cart on the Pan-American Highway. Finally, line up 4 tractor trailers behind it with no place to go. This is Nicaragua.

Timeshare sales, street vendors, trinket hawkers, beach peddlers etc…………….If this part of travel irritates you like it irritates me then Nicaragua is the place to be. With the exception of a 2 block beachfront area in SJDS we were never approached by anyone hawking anything. I can not tell you how fantastic this really was. For the few street vendors we did meet I can say that they were friendly and welcoming. No push, no sales pitch, no chasing you down the street, no bothering you during a meal.

Conclusion
So while I initially hesitated to leave the friends and familiarity of Zihua I can say for certain that I have no regrets in visiting Nicaragua. Zihua will always hold its comfortable atmosphere breed from many trips. We miss our Zihua friendships as well. But there is a new romance budding for our family. Nicaragua, your charm has captured us!

Nicaragua Part Two

by norm, Monday, January 20, 2014, 16:18 (4607 days ago) @ Larry in Duncan

Great report .Thank you

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Nicaragua Part Two

by Grumpy in Lake Cowichan @, Vancouver Island B.C Canada, Monday, January 20, 2014, 16:30 (4607 days ago) @ Larry in Duncan

Sounds like a great place and trip........... Working hard today are you :)