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<title>El Centro (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?! Well we have &amp; always in pairs</p>
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<title>El Centro (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no peer reviewed scientific evidence to show that pot is physically addictive and quite a few that say it isn't.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2016 03:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>El Centro (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cops on Motorcycles????? 23 years and never have we seen that!</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 18:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Did your eyrwitness say if the shooters were on foot or in a car.</p>
</blockquote><p>According to an eyewitness the shooter leapt from the back of a motorcycle, ran between a couple of cars and shot the young man, then ran and leapt on the back of the motorcycle and they sped away. </p>
<p>Cops on motorcycles were there practically within seconds, and the police trucks were there it seemed within a minute or two. I have to say the response was exactly the opposite that I've seen in previous shooting incidents where cops used to clearly wait until long after the perps were gone before ever arriving on the scene.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 18:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did your eyrwitness say if the shooters were on foot or in a car.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>El Centro (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, the place with hardly ever any customers.  I always suspected it was a front to launder money.</p>
</blockquote><p>It's not entirely clear if the young man, who was apparently with a young lady, both dressed nicely, was shot at the bar or across the street in front of the liquor store. An eyewitness told me he was at the liquor store.</p>
<p>I suspect many of the usually empty bars that are almost always open and with their music blaring are fronts for laundering money.</p>
<p>I knew before it was ever finished that the Autopista Siglo XXI was going to bring us this type of crap. I liked it a lot better when Zihuatanejo was less easily accessible.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<title>El Centro (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><span style="color:#666;">&quot;They can kill each other off for all I care, but this is one of the consequences of the USA's long-failed drug policies and the stupid War On Drugs. Each U.S. state that legalizes pot is taking an important step towards disempowering these violent criminals. But there are still the rest of the stupidly banned popular intoxicating substances used by over 100 million North Americans.</span>&quot;</p>
<p>Sure didn't take you long to once again blame the US for your problems in Mexico.</p>
<p>I think you should read the article I have linked.  There is a lot of basic truth and reality in it.  While not a totally definitive nor empirical study it does make the case that drug use legal or otherwise is counter productive towards a thriving society.</p>
<p>Additionally drugs are addictive, particularly, marijuana, cocaine, heroin and meth!<br />
Of course when all of these &quot;legal&quot; users become totally dependant and can no longer support themselves of their families, I suppose you, as a proponent of socialism will champion the government to embrace the addicts and supplement their addiction.</p>
<p>Sounds to me like it's a dog with its' tail in its' mouth!</p>
<p>What would be your plan to resolve those health issues?</p>
<p>Here is a really great idea, why doesn't the Mexican government declare war on the trafficer's and producer's in and through Mexico.........perhaps then we wouldn't have such a thriving &quot;drug culture&quot; here in the US.  Of course the lily white innocence of the government in Mexico would be offended by such a suggestion.</p>
<p>Read this:   <a href="https://ncadd.org/about-addiction/addiction-update/drugs-and-alcohol-in-the-workplace">https://ncadd.org/about-addiction/addiction-update/drugs-and-alcohol-in-the-workplace</a></p>
</blockquote><p>First off, you make the typical brainwashed assumption that most people who use stupidly banned substances are addicts or abusers. You are greatly mistaken. I can only imagine it would shock you to your core to know just how many &quot;regular&quot; and &quot;professional&quot; people that you deal with every day at least smoke pot and probably snort a bit of coke on the weekends. Unless you live in a bubble.</p>
<p>It's a damn shame that instead of even being able to acknowledge the problem you take the Reefer Madness approach and try to justify the War on Drugs as some noble cause.</p>
<p>Health issues! Yes, that is what addiction and abuse are. So then why are the jails filled with mostly black and latino men who's only &quot;crime&quot; was possession of a stupidly banned substance?</p>
<p>Ever hear of a country called Portugal? They decriminalized all the popular substances a decade and a half ago. Addiction rates are down. Abuse rates are down. Crime rates are down. </p>
<p>SUGAR is a much more harmful substance than pot.</p>
<p>I almost can't believe your comment about &quot;why doesn't Mexico declare war on...&quot;. You obviously live in some kind of bubble and haven't been paying attention for the past 4 decades. I can't help you there. We're tired of fighting a proxy war for the USA. Sell your damn citizens the drugs they want! Stop pretending to be Puritans! Stop being hypocrites!</p>
<p>Ban alcohol, sugar, coffee, tobacco and most of your pharmaceutical drugs, then, and at least be consistent. But see, we already know that isn't going to happen because Big Pharma and Big Alcohol and Big Tobacco spend millions lobbying to keep pot and other popular recreational substances illegal.</p>
<p><img src="http://hempioneers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/decriminalize-drug-use-now-as-did-Portugal.png" alt="[image]" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, El leo'n!<br />
I applaud your insight and courage to speak out about the scourge of killer pot.<br />
You are a true disciple of Saint Nancy Reagan.<br />
The devil created the poison marijuana to corrupt our precious bodily fluids and turn users into witches.<br />
It is only when right-thinking people such as yourself band together and burn all the witches that we will be safe.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Easy Ed</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the place with hardly ever any customers.  I always suspected it was a front to launder money.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>allen</dc:creator>
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<title>El Centro (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived in San Francisco during the sixties and seventies, when just about everyone I knew smoked weed, I never met anybody addicted to marijuana. While I believe that all substances should be legalized, taxed and controlled, I serious doubt that the narco gangs will somehow magically disappear if that happens. They'll just find another way to enrich themselves while screwing over the civilian population.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>frostbite</dc:creator>
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<title>El Centro (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#666;">&quot;They can kill each other off for all I care, but this is one of the consequences of the USA's long-failed drug policies and the stupid War On Drugs. Each U.S. state that legalizes pot is taking an important step towards disempowering these violent criminals. But there are still the rest of the stupidly banned popular intoxicating substances used by over 100 million North Americans.</span>&quot;</p>
<p>Sure didn't take you long to once again blame the US for your problems in Mexico.</p>
<p>I think you should read the article I have linked.  There is a lot of basic truth and reality in it.  While not a totally definitive nor empirical study it does make the case that drug use legal or otherwise is counter productive towards a thriving society.</p>
<p>Additionally drugs are addictive, particularly, marijuana, cocaine, heroin and meth!<br />
Of course when all of these &quot;legal&quot; users become totally dependant and can no longer support themselves of their families, I suppose you, as a proponent of socialism will champion the government to embrace the addicts and supplement their addiction.</p>
<p>Sounds to me like it's a dog with its' tail in its' mouth!</p>
<p>What would be your plan to resolve those health issues?</p>
<p>Here is a really great idea, why doesn't the Mexican government declare war on the trafficer's and producer's in and through Mexico.........perhaps then we wouldn't have such a thriving &quot;drug culture&quot; here in the US.  Of course the lily white innocence of the government in Mexico would be offended by such a suggestion.</p>
<p>Read this:   <a href="https://ncadd.org/about-addiction/addiction-update/drugs-and-alcohol-in-the-workplace">https://ncadd.org/about-addiction/addiction-update/drugs-and-alcohol-in-the-workplace</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>El león</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Bar Ego, is that right across from the Fishing Hole?</p>
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It's the open-air bar that always has blaring music and that blocks the sidewalk on the corner of Vicente Guerrero and Nicolás Bravo next to the Farmacia Koyuka.</p>
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Well darn! That is really terrifying! You can't get much more in the center of the tourist area than that and at an hour that tourists are out walking around. The night before La Ropa. The new gangs must not have gotten the &quot;not near the tourists&quot; memo as the activity in Acapulco has also spread into the tourist areas. So sad.</p>
</blockquote><p>Local rumor has it the local gang is trying to keep outsiders from moving in. They can kill each other off for all I care, but this is one of the consequences of the USA's long-failed drug policies and the stupid War On Drugs. Each U.S. state that legalizes pot is taking an important step towards disempowering these violent criminals. But there are still the rest of the stupidly banned popular intoxicating substances used by over 100 million North Americans.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Bar Ego, is that right across from the Fishing Hole?</p>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><p><br />
It's the open-air bar that always has blaring music and that blocks the sidewalk on the corner of Vicente Guerrero and Nicolás Bravo next to the Farmacia Koyuka.</p>
</blockquote><p>Well darn! That is really terrifying! You can't get much more in the center of the tourist area than that and at an hour that tourists are out walking around. The night before La Ropa. The new gangs must not have gotten the &quot;not near the tourists&quot; memo as the activity in Acapulco has also spread into the tourist areas. So sad.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 13:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>OlsenMN</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bar Ego, is that right across from the Fishing Hole?</p>
</blockquote><p>It's the open-air bar that always has blaring music and that blocks the sidewalk on the corner of Vicente Guerrero and Nicolás Bravo next to the Farmacia Koyuka.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 13:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bar Ego, is that right across from the Fishing Hole?</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 04:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>allen</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just got word of a shooting in El Centro.  Anyone here have any details?</p>
</blockquote><p>At Bar Ego, a place I don't recommend. Report says Gustavo Adolfo  González received 4 bullets. Police were on the scene immediately and the young man was taken to the hospital.</p>
<p>Traffic was detoured for a while but all has now returned back to normal.</p>
<p>I'm sure there will be a story with photos in the papers. It's already all over Facebook.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 03:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got word of a shooting in El Centro.  Anyone here have any details?</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 03:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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