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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you need to build a wall to keep them out!<img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" alt=";-)" title="wink" /></p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>upnortnick</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not see how a person selling peanuts, cheese, candy can hurt a restaurants sales.<br />
It is very pleasant for us beach loungers to buy a small snack!</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>JoAnna</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We go to Rossys, we eat &amp; drink there but also contribute to the vendors. Bernardos cheese, peanuts, candy (peanut bars &amp; sesame snaps), clothes, etc. Rossys is always great to the locals &amp; will even let the kids hide from patrols! We also take our dog every day(who just lays under the table &amp; people watches). Spend lots there that La Perla will never see after being screamed @ &amp; chased out first time with our small dog! Too bad he was such a jerk &amp; just didn't politely ask us to go around. Wouldn't still have such a bad taste in my mouth<img src="images/smilies/poopfan.gif" alt=":hitfan:" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Charlybby</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hola<br />
Correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't there already some sort of regulation for these wandering beach vendors? I see them being checked by &quot;regulators&quot; walking the beaches and being asked to produce some sort of papers.</p>
</blockquote><p>The only &quot;regulation&quot; is to pay off the folks working for the &quot;Reglamentos&quot; office of our municipal administration. If they get caught without their &quot;permit&quot; the &quot;regulator&quot; will confiscate all their goods, further enriching themselves at the expense of poor hardworking people. While there is indeed a general desire to help our impoverished people, Zihuatanejo simply can't help every poor person who decides to come here. Hundreds of wandering vendors on our streets and beaches hurts everyone. Of course the politicians only see them as voters, and the bureaucrats see them as a source of income. So perception is everything.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 19:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola<br />
Correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't there already some sort of regulation for these wandering beach vendors? I see them being checked by &quot;regulators&quot; walking the beaches and being asked to produce some sort of papers.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 18:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>victorio</dc:creator>
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<title>Z Beat Goes On (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semma4, he is a sad sad man..What goes around..........<img src="images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt=":-D" title="big smile" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>cantinero46</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unfortunately it is not only the 'dog's on the beach' issue that Ybarra is against. This self proclaimed &quot;King of La Ropa&quot; is lobbying to have ALL of the beach vendors that sell food - peanuts, Oaxaca cheese, ice cream, chips with salsa, tacos etc. etc. be removed from the beach as they are stealing 'his' business.</p>
</blockquote><p>I don't disagree with him on wanting the beach vendors and all ambulantes to be much better controlled and regulated. They are hurting everyone's business. Since the artisans markets were established over 20 years ago supposedly to remove most wandering vendors from our beaches and streets, the established businesses have had to deal with year after year of decreasing sales and declining profits, many simply closing up shop and moving elsewhere. The wandering vendors and the artisans markets have never been properly managed. Instead, the taxpaying rent-paying business owners have suffered while the wandering and informal vendors build new homes on invaded lands, buy nice cars and take vacations. I can't even recall the last time my wife and I took a vacation. I think it was 9 years ago. We certainly don't make enough money to build a new home, not even out of adobe and palapa. Like Francisco and others on La Ropa are doing, we had to put our foot down, too, when a wandering vendor tried to set up a shop to sell handmade clothing across the street from our own shop in the Plaza del Artista. Wandering vendors and artisan markets operate on an entirely different economic system than the rest of us. Much like the economic difference between the USA and China. We consider such practices to be <em>competencia desleal</em>, unfair for those of us who pay must taxes, utilities, rents and employees.</p>
<p>So even though Don Chico, Francisco's dad, established himself at La Ropa by essentially being a wandering vendor selling clams and oysters, back then he filled a void. Today that void no longer exists and we have a saturation of too many services, including unregulated food vendors selling potentially unhealthy products near restaurants. That is not fair and we should not promote the continuation of such services without some kind of equitable regulation as much to protect the public as to level the playing field for established businesses. Most of my fellow citizens agree with the point of view I've presented here.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 18:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately it is not only the 'dog's on the beach' issue that Ybarra is against. This self proclaimed &quot;King of La Ropa&quot; is lobbying to have ALL of the beach vendors that sell food - peanuts, Oaxaca cheese, ice cream, chips with salsa, tacos etc. etc. be removed from the beach as they are stealing 'his' business.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Semma4</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROB...it is the dog issue,poisoning dogs lassouing them to be taken away to be thrown over cliffs...shot.enjoy your food there.bon appite,hope mom is still cooking because the young bucs just throw out taco bell cuisine.<img src="images/smilies/stones.png" alt=":stones:" title="you got me rockin" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 01:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>cantinero46</dc:creator>
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<title>Z Beat Goes On (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Knowing the people at la perla and Don Fransico properties, I have to say that that have a very keen interest in making and keeping Z as good of a tourist destination place as possible.  Just because people have a disagreement about the dogs on the beach with them doesn't make la perla a dump.</p>
</blockquote><p>I couldn't agree with you more. Francisco and I have the utmost respect for one another in spite of our differences. I don't like hearing folks trash his family's wonderful restaurant just because of the dog issue. I have almost always enjoyed my meals there, and if I didn't it wasn't their fault. <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" alt=";)" title="wink" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 00:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does in my books! &quot;Dump&quot; is a relative term. As long as they continue this, they will never get another peso out of me!</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 00:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Quadra Paul</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing the people at la perla and Don Fransico properties, I have to say that that have a very keen interest in making and keeping Z as good of a tourist destination place as possible.  Just because people have a disagreement about the dogs on the beach with them doesn't make la perla a dump.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 00:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>K&amp;B</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art,YIKES,We found that very disturbing,and we're sure so did Cisco at perla even through miles away from his dump.<img src="images/smilies/jeer.gif" alt=":jeer:" title="up yours" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2016 23:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>cantinero46</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! there's a dog on the beach! <img src="images/smilies/omg.gif" alt=":omg:" title="oh my goodness" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2016 23:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Canadian Rainbirds</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though of course locals are outraged at yesterday's events, life must continue if our families are to eat, and families are what Zihuatanejo is all about. They are the motor driving the life blood of Zihuatanejo. Our heartbeat. Our raison d'être as they have been for generations.</p>
<p>Though storms threatened along the coast during most of the evening, fishermen still went out all during the night to bring home the daily sustenance for their families, and the market was just as lively as usual this morning.<br />
<img src="http://www.zihuatanejo.net/images/temp/2016-08-13-fishermensmarket-playaprincipal-dawn.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
<p>This is what Zihuatanejo is all about!<br />
<img src="http://www.zihuatanejo.net/images/temp/2016-08-13-wideangle-girlwithdog-frigatebirds-playaprincipal-dawn.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2016 19:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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