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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was sitting around with some friends and said that my problem was that all of my friends wanted to speak English, thereby depriving me of learning more Spanish, when up spoke one of my friends, known for her matter of factness (Tanya Jones)who said &quot;Allen, excuse me, but, all of your friends speak English because you do&quot;.</p>
</blockquote><p>Tanya is exactly right. When I was relatively new here and still a fledgling Spanish speaker I found it rather simple to get past that minor problem by insisting on speaking Spanish.</p>
<p>No tengas miedo.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 14:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years back I was taking a conversational Spanish class at my local community college in the evenings.  About 3/4 of the way through the class Alaska airlines had a sale.  So I told the teacher I was going to Mexico to practice my Spanish.  I was not a whole lot better at it when I got there,  than the last time I was there, about 6 months prior.  So, I was sitting around with some friends and said that my problem was that all of my friends wanted to speak English, thereby depriving me of learning more Spanish, when up spoke one of my friends, known for her matter of factness (Tanya Jones)who said &quot;Allen, excuse me, but, all of your friends speak English because you do&quot;.  There went that excuse.  <br />
I do still manage to pretty much get back what I had the trip before in a couple of days time and add a word or phrase or two each time I go.  But, fluent, I will never be.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some countries allow dual citizenship, some don't.  The US does.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santana, Abraxas, at the then new LA Forum, January 1970. I was 2nd row center.<br />
Jose Feliciano was the warm-up. <br />
Carlos was late. Jose Feliciano was boo-ed after 20 minutes or so.<br />
I was late, gave birth to my daughter the next day. I was young. Very, very young. Great concert with many more great concerts in the LA area. Ahhh, those were the days.<br />
I was a single mom of 2, for 17 years in SoCalifornia, working my ass off and never missed a good concert. Ahh yes, those were the days. <br />
One nonstop struggle but fun fun fun. Oy! </p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &quot;G&quot;,George Benson is no slouch either.<img src="images/smilies/coolshades.gif" alt="B-)" title="cool" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 00:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE Carlos Santana..... so much rhythm, so much talent and so much fun to listen to...</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You've had an interesting life. More varied than most. How did you acquire dual citizenship? I thought when a person become a national of another country he had to give up his US citizenship. </p>
</blockquote><p><img src="images/smilies/mexico.gif" alt=":vivamexico:" title="¡Viva México!" />  Man, I had a nice little message for George Bush all ready to accompany my US passport if I had to surrender it, but apparently US law changed the same year I was granted Mexican citizenship. I was mildly disappointed, but now I'm glad I got to have dual citizenship so that I could participate in the historic vote to elect Barack Obama and make all those rednecks and stiff-assed honkies nervous even though Bush had already put a definitive end to the myth of &quot;white supremacy&quot;. <img src="images/smilies/stirthepot.gif" alt=":stirpot:" title="stirring the pot" />  </p>
<p>Of all the places I've lived, the group of us that has remained the closest (besides family) have been those of us who at one time or another lived in St. Croix. Shortly after I moved to Anna Maria Island, Florida from Christiansted, St. Croix and after leaving school, a friend of mine from St. Croix who had also just happened to move to the same island in Florida (lots of Crucians all over Florida!) gave me a job making handcarved wooden signs. I had worked with him a little on St. Croix helping to paint his handcarved signs. Another friend from St. Croix who still lives in Florida joined us soon after. We form a rather large private group on Facebook where we swap stories and photos, and where we have for the most part left an important historical record of this fascinating Caribbean island.<br />
<img src="images/smilies/brilliant.gif" alt=":brilliant:" title="brilliant" />  </p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 00:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what US law is, but in Canada there was a short period of 3 or 4 years in the mid-70's when acquiring citizenship in another country meant relinquishing Canadian citizenship. Since then, however, one does not lose Canadian citizenship.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true Craig.My wife has dual Citizen ship....US and Canadian.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You've had an interesting life. More varied than most. How did you acquire dual citizenship? I thought when a person become a national of another country he had to give up his US citizenship. </p>
<p>Craig</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 20:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Craig Scheiner</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High schools in Florida were a joke after studying at a private school in St. Croix where the teachers actually cared, though unfortunately I had a little &quot;misunderstanding&quot; with the headmaster and left halfway throught the 9th grade. A year later in Florida I was allowed to enroll a month or so late into the 10th grade, but it quickly became obvious that education was not the goal in Florida's overcrowded public high schools, so after a month or 2 after some BS incident off campus one morning that got me suspended for 10 days by an &quot;ass't principal&quot;, I went to Negril for a couple of weeks and became a woodcarver when I returned. A year or so later we moved to Zihuatanejo for 6 months.</p>
<p>After returning to Florida my grandmother easily convinced me that I should go to college, though it took a year or so for me to get ready by taking a high school equivalency test (which due to a temporary change in the law I was allowed to take before my graduating class had actually graduated) after which I applied to a local junior college and got enough grants to make it through the first semester. However, times were tough and I had to stop studying to work for a few more years. Then, several years later while I was working in restaurants on Sanibel Island I decided I had had enough restaurant work, never again, so I enrolled in a community college in Ft. Myers and finished my AA degree. Then I went off to FSU at Tallahassee for a year, back to Sarasota for a semester where I attended USF's New College, then off to UF in Gainesville where I finished my studies and got my BA and where I maxed out all their Spanish classes just to keep me on my toes. I had planned on going to law school, but the more I learned about the trade the more it turned me off. It's tough having principles in a world where most folks are all too willing to sell theirs. <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" alt=";-)" title="wink" />  </p>
<p>The rest is history! <br />
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though you didn't finish high school you did resume your education and I gather from your posts, acquired a degree. How did that play out?</p>
<p>Craig</p>
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<dc:creator>Craig Scheiner</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not high school, which I never finished. I had my first Spanish class in the 3rd grade via television with &quot;Señorita Robinson&quot; and our book was &quot;Camino Real&quot;, where I first saw photos of Mexican students in their uniforms and older men sitting under shade trees in a small town plaza with their guayaberas and wide-brimmed hats. I was automatically drawn to the culture. When I moved to Christiansted, St. Croix in '71 I again studied Spanish in the 8th grade and halfway through the 9th grade before high school and me went our separate ways. In '74 I got my first chance to practice my Spanish, and although it was rudimentary I persevered and was able to communicate well enough to have not just Mexican friends but a non-English speaking girlfriend who would become my wife 15 years later. <img src="images/smilies/dancing.gif" alt=":dance:" title="ooh la whee" />  </p>
<p>A new language isn't something foreign. It's mostly just new words for concepts you already know. I always looked at learning Spanish as learning to use a new &quot;life tool&quot;, the same way I looked at the other skills I picked up over the years of my youth. <img src="images/smilies/coolshades.gif" alt="B-)" title="cool" />  </p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could have taken Spanish like you did - you are talking high school I presume - I wanted to take Spanish but my father said it would be useless in college and I ended up taking German. I was into astronomy and rockets then and maybe my dad pictured me working with Werner von Braun some day. Turned out I've never had a job where I need to speak a single word of German.</p>
<p>Craig</p>
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<dc:creator>Craig Scheiner</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thread about Barra de Potosi...</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the discussion you're making reference to?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked the Stats Can census table for my city. 2006 data. Out of a total population of 457,720 people, there are 785 people of Mexican ethnic origin. 0.17% of the population. Like I think I said already, there ain't very many Mexicans where I'm from. Certainly no Mexicans selling authentic tacos from street carts. It's too cold for them here I think. I don't blame them, either. Any Mexican selling tacos here, in proper restaurants, and there are a couple, really don't have much of a choice but to cater to the &quot;Old El Paso&quot; Tex-Mex tastes that most Canadians think of as Mexican food. They sell things like &quot;fajitas&quot; which are unknown to people in Morelia. In Morelia fajita refers to a cut of beef on the shelf at the grocery store. Chicken, sour cream, salsa casera, cheese, yeah right. They don't have a clue what fajitas are. Ergo, I don't consider that authentic Mexican food, although they may eat that stuff up in the northern border areas, I'm not sure about that. But not in Michoacan. They maybe sell it to tourists in Zihua, I don't know, but it's not typical food for the area.</p>
<p>Once when I flew to Morelia I took a couple packages of Old El Paso taco kits and packets of fajita seasoning to show some friends what &quot;Mexican&quot; food was like in Canada and elsewhere in the world. I remember they tried it, with scepticism, and basically I'd say they thought it was edible, but there was universal agreement that it wasn't Mexican food.</p>
<p>In Toronto, they don't even have mobile food trucks. The only street food allowed in Toronto is hot dogs, and all the vendors pretty much have the same menu - hot dog, italian saugage, polish sausage, that's it, a wiener of some type on a bun. When I've searched out real tacos in Toronto, I was disappointed. Even in a neighbourhood where I heard the neighbours playing Grupo Exterminador narco corridos as I ate, I still got what could only be described as a weak imitation. I mean, they served them on those rather gross processed corn tortillas that you can find some places. Not having fresh tortillas, that ruins everything right there. The least they could have done is made them from Maseca, which is available here now. </p>
<p>So, you can get real Mexican food in the USA because they have a ton of Mexicans there, but not here in Canada.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Aw cmon you guys. You sound like those food Nazis who would have us believe you can't get decent Italian food anywhere outside Italy, (except, of course, at Piazza d'Angelo in Zihua......according to Angelo), or decent Greek food anywhere out of Greece.<br />
There's a little mobile food truck south of us, in Tonasket, WA, manned by a guy from Guadalajara, whose tacos are as &quot;authentic&quot; as any in Guad...or probably Zihua as well. There's a restaurant in Oroville, WA owned and operated by real live Mexicans, etc., etc. And these are small towns. Are you suggesting you can't get decent &quot;authentic&quot; Mexican food in places with huge Latino, (mostly Mexican) communities like Chicago and Los Angeles?</p>
</blockquote><p>Come to think of it we may have eaten at that place in Oroville. any years ago. Another memorable Mexifood experience for me was from a catering truck in beautiful Downtown, Santa Cruz, California. You got your chile releno in a purpose-made little paper wrapper. And the tacos de cabeza were succulent, to die for. </p>
<p>I think it WOULD be a good bet to eat at the restos that serve the field workers  in small town USA. Truth be told I tend to like the simpler fare. Hearty food that isn't complicated. We're starting get some season agricultural workers up here on Vancouver Island, but they're flown here to work certain crops, like the daffodil harvest, and strawberries, which all ripen at once. There are new and expanded Mexican food sections in the larger grocery stores, so one can always hope. </p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I began learning Spanish years before I ever thought I would visit or live in a Spanish speaking country. I chose it over French or Latin because I believed it would be a more useful language to know on the American hemisphere for obvious reasons (which apparently go unnoticed by too many). My first visit to Zihuatanejo in '74 was after having only 3 or 4 years of grade school Spanish. </p>
<p>[humble] Apparently I paid attention in class [/humble]. <img src="images/smilies/brilliant.gif" alt=":brilliant:" title="brilliant" />  </p>
<p>Like anything you learn, you must start simple but start somewhere, emphasis on &quot;start&quot;. If it was easy for me to learn it's because I simply cared to learn it. Real effort is usually rewarded with real progress.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw cmon you guys. You sound like those food Nazis who would have us believe you can't get decent Italian food anywhere outside Italy, (except, of course, at Piazza d'Angelo in Zihua......according to Angelo), or decent Greek food anywhere out of Greece.<br />
There's a little mobile food truck south of us, in Tonasket, WA, manned by a guy from Guadalajara, whose tacos are as &quot;authentic&quot; as any in Guad...or probably Zihua as well. There's a restaurant in Oroville, WA owned and operated by real live Mexicans, etc., etc. And these are small towns. Are you suggesting you can't get decent &quot;authentic&quot; Mexican food in places with huge Latino, (mostly Mexican) communities like Chicago and Los Angeles?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He took one look at me and replied: &quot;Ah, vous etes Quebecois.&quot;</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I've never had real Mexican food in Canada, not like what you can get in the USA. But my aunt (from Morelia, now lives here) told me a couple of weeks ago that they apparently have authentic Mexican food down in a town called Leamington (ON), because of all the Mexican farm workers there.</p>
</blockquote><p>I can relate to that. I almost never eat what passes for Mexicano grub up here, not just because it's a travesty of the taste, but it's an insult to my memory of the place. </p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going to Zihua to eat tacos in the market sounds like a perfectly valid reason to go to me <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" alt=";-)" title="wink" /> I'm craving tacos so badly right now, I haven't had a real taco since those ones I got in San Francisco last year. I walked an hour up mission street I think until I was satisfied I had found some of the most authentic tacos in town. And they were pretty damn authentic I must say, except that they were over-sized compared to what is typical in Michoacan&amp;Guerrero. I guess they do that so they can charge more per taco, not 50 or 60 cents per taco like in Mexico. Last weekend I had dinner with my family and a guest who didn't know much about Mexico, and man did he learn all about Mexican cuisine. My mother had to tell me, &quot;Scott, stop salivating at that picture of pozole or whatever it is you've been staring at on your computer for the last 5 minutes!&quot;</p>
<p>I've never had real Mexican food in Canada, not like what you can get in the USA. But my aunt (from Morelia, now lives here) told me a couple of weeks ago that they apparently have authentic Mexican food down in a town called Leamington (ON), because of all the Mexican farm workers there. I've tried a couple places in Toronto, and here in London even, but it just isn't the same. It's all Tex-Mex around here. I'm kind of thinking about a trip to meet a friend from Mexico somewhere in the USA next month since she can't come here anymore without a lot of headache (Canada visa is harder than USA visa), and you can bet where I can get the best tacos is at the forefront of my considerations of where to go.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I run into a bit of it too, but more often because I speak Parisian-type<br />
      French rather than Joual.&quot;</p>
<p>Then you'll appreciate my Polish story. Apologies if I've told it before:</p>
<p>In the late '70's I had a business trip to Poland, but decided to spend a few days in Paris on the way over. My Quebec-anglophone French served me well in Paris and I even tried picking up some of that beautiful local accent.</p>
<p>Upon arrival a week or so later in Warsaw, I was standing in the main square trying to locate a small theater which showed films on the Nazi occupation of Warsaw. Just then, a tour bus pulled to the curb in front of me and disgorged its load of tourists from France. (I could tell by their accents)</p>
<p>I approached the French tour guide and, in my best Parisian accent, asked:<br />
&quot;Pardon monsieur. Ou est-ce qu'on peut voire le film sur l'histoire the Warsovie?&quot;  (Excuse any spelling mistakes)</p>
<p>He took one look at me and replied: &quot;Ah, vous etes Quebecois.&quot;</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It's not about how much Spanish or whatever language you do or do not know. What it's really about is making an effort to communicate with the people, and learning about them and their culture. Knowing the language greatly facilitates that. But you don't need a high level of ability to start doing that, you just need to get out there and start trying.</p>
<p>It's the difference between vacationing and travelling....</p>
</blockquote><p>You're an interesting fellow Mr. Scott. I think I'd enjoy having a cerveza with you. You've worked on your head. And it shows....</p>
<p>Funny what you posted reminded me of my own domestic scenario. To date, though though I've been to Z. 6 times, most recently with our 19 year old daughter...my wife just isn't excited enough about the place to take the time off her job to come with me. It's just not her thing. As she says:</p>
<p><em>&quot;But you've been to Mexico. you've done the beach thing. You're going because you want to eat tacos in the marketplace.&quot; </em></p>
<p>And she's exactly right. What interests her when she takes the effort to travel for pleasure is SEEING SOMETHING DIFFERENT EACH TIME. And I won't fault her for that. </p>
<p>But I'm just starting to understand Z., the culture, the language, the people, the food, the sea. And there's something about it, (amply assisted by my experiences on this board) that keeps me happy..even where I'm not there.</p>
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