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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="images/smilies/like.png" alt=":megusta:" title="Me gusta" />   Gracias, Rob.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 19:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>katherine</dc:creator>
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<title>memory (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame it on my faulty memory. I did participate in the event, which I thought was called a posada. Mea culpa.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 19:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>katherine</dc:creator>
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<title>Fireworks? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12/05/2018</p>
<p><em><strong>Love your response.</strong></em></p>
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<p>Hola @karenanddick </p>
<p>You've heard the saying:<br />
&quot;Con los costumbres se hacen leyes&quot;</p>
<p>Sometimes &quot;los costumbres&quot; need adjustment to the changing &amp; times, as well as to the rules, regulations and <strong><em>ENVIRONMENTAL NORMS</em></strong>, so as to be more in-line &amp; compatible with the populations of the areas they are conducted.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there are those who are a bit stubborn and selfish. As Z Rob correctly noted:</p>
<p><em>&quot;Like boombox cars and such, some folks need to call attention to themselves to feed their egos and feel noticed.&quot;</em></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 19:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12/05/2018</p>
<p>Hola Z Rob:</p>
<p>MUY bien dicho.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 19:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>utter nonsense to describe the fireworks barrage as a cultural tradition - I doubt it was passed down by the Nahuatal or Aztecs. Rather  its juveniles with no direction and too much time on their hands.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 19:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Casa Juan</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p><br />
Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their &quot;fur babies&quot;<img src="images/smilies/devil.gif" alt=":devil:" title="devilish" /></p>
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Many of my Mexican friends and acquaintances also complain about the explosions. Even those who don't have dogs. A few years ago, I was invited to participate in a Posada by a friend who was the manager of the Hotel Irma at the time. She specified no pyrotechnics for the participants (mostly employees of the hotel). Everyone carried candles and sang. It was a beautiful -- and dare I say -- &quot;traditional&quot; posada.</p>
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Big cultural difference with different traditions (including fireworks) between the peregrinaciones de Día de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe and a posada.</p>
</blockquote><p>Katherine may be confusing posada with pilgrimage. We don't march and sing at posadas.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 15:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their &quot;fur babies&quot;<img src="images/smilies/devil.gif" alt=":devil:" title="devilish" /></p>
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Many of my Mexican friends and acquaintances also complain about the explosions. Even those who don't have dogs. A few years ago, I was invited to participate in a Posada by a friend who was the manager of the Hotel Irma at the time. She specified no pyrotechnics for the participants (mostly employees of the hotel). Everyone carried candles and sang. It was a beautiful -- and dare I say -- &quot;traditional&quot; posada.</p>
</blockquote><p>Yes, it seems the bottle rockets were introduced by outsiders because the majority of processions of guadalupanos from decades ago that I recall were as you describe. If you listen to this topic discussed on the local radio talk shows the explosions bother most folks here who are tired of any kind of explosions. With all the gunfire in the past decade or so few people here except some kids and nacos enjoy fireworks anymore. And the few bottle rockets launched back then were the kind that went psssssssst-pop. Not whooosssssssh-KABOOOOM! Many neighbors and passers-by complain and shudder at the absurd noise. Many residents are asking church authorities to speak with their guadalupanos and ask them not to launch fireworks, but our pleas seem to be falling on deaf ears. Like boombox cars and such, some folks need to call attention to themselves to feed their egos and feel noticed. I keep a bucket of water handy on my roof in case any foolish people march in front of our home launching rockets. And another bucket with rocks just in case... <img src="images/smilies/poopfan.gif" alt=":hitfan:" /> <img src="images/smilies/devil.gif" alt=":devil:" title="devilish" /></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 15:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their &quot;fur babies&quot;<img src="images/smilies/devil.gif" alt=":devil:" title="devilish" /></p>
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Many of my Mexican friends and acquaintances also complain about the explosions. Even those who don't have dogs. A few years ago, I was invited to participate in a Posada by a friend who was the manager of the Hotel Irma at the time. She specified no pyrotechnics for the participants (mostly employees of the hotel). Everyone carried candles and sang. It was a beautiful -- and dare I say -- &quot;traditional&quot; posada.</p>
</blockquote><p>Big cultural difference with different traditions (including fireworks) between the peregrinaciones de Día de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe and a posada.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 15:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><br />
Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their &quot;fur babies&quot;<img src="images/smilies/devil.gif" alt=":devil:" title="devilish" /></p>
</blockquote><p>Many of my Mexican friends and acquaintances also complain about the explosions. Even those who don't have dogs. A few years ago, I was invited to participate in a Posada by a friend who was the manager of the Hotel Irma at the time. She specified no pyrotechnics for the participants (mostly employees of the hotel). Everyone carried candles and sang. It was a beautiful -- and dare I say -- &quot;traditional&quot; posada.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>katherine</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Color me fed up with the constant worthless barrage!</p>
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Me too!!  If you are anywhere close to the church when this is happening, it is like being in a war zone. They seem extra loud this year.</p>
</blockquote><p>Worthless barrage? It is part of the cultural tradition of the place you have chosen to live. Most complainers are just worried about their &quot;fur babies&quot;<img src="images/smilies/devil.gif" alt=":devil:" title="devilish" /></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 13:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>OlsenMN</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your response.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenanddick</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Color me fed up with the constant worthless barrage!</p>
</blockquote><p>Me too!!  If you are anywhere close to the church when this is happening, it is like being in a war zone. They seem extra loud this year.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 11:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>katherine</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W.o.w.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Rob.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ship the SOBs  who ruin the lives of others in Zihua with their juvenile fireworks behavior to Afghanistan. Let them clear IEDs with their bare hands for a reward. Send the local officials who refuse to rein them in to clean up and pack their body bags for shipment home.  </p>
<p>Color me fed up with the constant worthless barrage!</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 02:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Casa Juan</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just had that discussion!  It's true.</p>
<p>Where is the embarrassed emoticon?</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 01:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Talley Ho</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unfortunately, those weren't pilgrims, but yahoos that found cheap, loud booming fireworks.</p>
</blockquote><p>If we believe in karma then it must be the sins of our youth coming back to haunt us. <img src="images/smilies/stones.png" alt=":stones:" title="you got me rockin" /></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 01:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, those weren't pilgrims, but yahoos that found cheap, loud booming fireworks.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 00:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Talley Ho</dc:creator>
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<title>Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are pilgrims called <em>guadalupanos</em> and they are carrying their images of Guadalupe to be blessed at the church. The 12th of December is <em>Día de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe</em>. The most special day of the year for Mexicans.</p>
<p>Here's some background: <strong><a href="index.php?id=24047" class="internal">Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe</a></strong></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2018 23:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know what for at 5:40pm now?</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2018 23:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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