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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hola. Sorry Rob but I don't like people pulling the &quot;education or holier than  thou &quot; card on me. Especially when they have no idea of my education. Pisses me off. Am going to go home and have a couple of tokes and watch the cowboys ride.</p>
</blockquote><p>I'm with you, Victorio. According to the Professor, because your story failed 3 of the 4 textbook forensic tests, it should be ignored as simple hearsay. Problem is that your story's true.</p>
<p>Oops! Back to the books, Professor.</p>
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<dc:creator>HolyMole</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a game we played as kids. We'd stand in a circle, the teacher would whisper something into the first kid's ear. That kid would whisper what he thought he'd heard into the next kid's ear and that would be repeated all around the circle. The last kid would say out loud what he was told and the teacher would then say what he'd said. Amazing how the story would change after being passed around.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola. Sorry Rob but I don't like people pulling the &quot;education or holier than  thou &quot; card on me. Especially when they have no idea of my education. Pisses me off. Am going to go home and have a couple of tokes and watch the cowboys ride.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ease on up there, Hoss. Oeste is one of the good guys. <img src="images/smilies/smokin.gif" alt=":smoking:" title="smoking!" /> <img src="images/smilies/stones.png" alt=":stones:" title="you got me rockin" /></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola.  The reason that I  said &quot;friend of a friend &quot;, was the same reason that Rob didn't name his sources, for their own safety. I know these &quot;friends&quot; and was just trying to  protect them. If that makes you sceptical of my post, that's your problem. If that had happened to you or if you were a witness would you want your name spread all over social media especially in Zihua? I think not. I think that I am the only one in danger here. Get off of your high horse and get back to reality.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agreed with you until you said March 39!!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trust and respect Rob in this. Here is some perspective on why people are sceptical about the &quot;friend of a friend&quot; stories. I teach a course on investigation and fact finding (I have experience in both).  The 1st lesson is people can only tell facts they observed (otherwise it is what’s known as ‘hearsay’). “A friend told me this happened” means they can tell what a friend told them. You cannot conclude that is what happened without talking to the person who actually witnessed what happened. 2nd, when you hear information about what happened you have to decide if the person giving the information is credible (“I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus”<img src="images/smilies/giggle.gif" alt=":snicker:" title="snicker snicker" /> ) and if they were competent to observe what they claimed happened (remember cousin Vinny asking granny how many fingers she saw?). 3rd, is the information provided verifiable? (“Mine was the biggest inauguration crowd in history!”<img src="images/smilies/wtf.gif" alt=":wtf:" title="WTF?" /> ). 4th, is it natural and probable and easy to believe? (insert another Trump reference<img src="images/smilies/surprise.gif" alt=":-o" title="surprised" /> ). The problem with someone on this Board saying this happened to a friend of a friend is that it does not meet the 1st 3 tests.<br />
It is not that we do not like you or believe you.<img src="images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt=":-D" title="big smile" />  We do but that is not the same thing as believing what you said a friend of yours said a friend of theirs said happened actually happened.<img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" alt=":-)" title="smile" /> </p>
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oh and I arrive March 39 for 2 weeks and my 63rd birthday for those who read this far.<img src="images/smilies/smokin.gif" alt=":smoking:" title="smoking!" /> <img src="images/smilies/vacation.gif" alt=":vacation:" title="on vacation" /> <img src="images/smilies/brilliant.gif" alt=":brilliant:" title="brilliant" /></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same as per the shooting the other day near Plaza Kyoto, there are witnesses and yes, it is true and yes people have talked about it. But none of us that do know exactly what happened will give all the details on a place like here or the Facebook Zihuatanejo similar group for the same reasons Rob mentioned. It is the same reasons you can find on some of the local newspapers Rob list on his page some reporting about these crimes but they do not get in the details in order not to endanger their sources. A friend of mine is the editor in chief of one of these newspapers and we often chat about some of the local news and crimes do come up in conversations from time to time. What Rob has posted regarding this situation in Troncones and the Union area is not new. Troncones itself is a pretty quiet place and very little serious crime to report. But because of the lack of policing on either side and nearby, it gives free reign to cartels and gang activity and carjacking have happened. I can only hope we do not see an uptick in this form of crime as it sure could have a negative impact to the tourism for that area. For those living in that area, it is a part of life and for most, they are well aware of their situation.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Hola. There has been a lot of info on this subject, for the last time I will tell you what I know. At about 10AM a friend of a friend was driving north on 200 just north of Troncones. He was stopped by a group of about 15 people that had blocked the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. The truck was a newer model vehicle with blacked out windows, just what the cartel likes. A friend that knows the cartel boys  phoned them to ask for the truck back. They admitted to taking the truck but didn't want to give it back because they liked the truck so much. Negotiations to get the truck back are still in progress. About 10 vehicles were hijacked that morning.</p>
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Thanks Victorio. I never doubted your original story. I was interested in some corroboration. You say &quot;there has been a lot of info on this subject&quot;, but other than you and the poster who first mentioned it, (in only the briefest terms), I haven't seen any of this other info you mention. Rob posted links to several old news items that provide historical perspective on &quot;the problem&quot;, but nothing current.  </p>
<p>There are a couple of posters with limited attention spans who'd apparently <br />
&quot;like to move on&quot;. There's been a whole lot of deflection in this thread, but, other than from you, precious little meat on the bones of this story.</p>
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I have had this incident confirmed by an unimpeachable source. I will not reveal any sources or victims because doing so places their lives at risk. I do hope my friends in Troncones will make an effort to bring this matter to the attention of their local authorities. I'm sure visitors and residents would be most interested to hear what La Unión's authorities have to say on the matter apart from politibabble, and especially what they are doing to prevent it from continuing.</p>
</blockquote><p>Muchas gracias, Roberto. And to Gringo Viejo and his peanut gallery: <img src="images/smilies/jeer.gif" alt=":jeer:" title="up yours" /></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Hola. There has been a lot of info on this subject, for the last time I will tell you what I know. At about 10AM a friend of a friend was driving north on 200 just north of Troncones. He was stopped by a group of about 15 people that had blocked the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. The truck was a newer model vehicle with blacked out windows, just what the cartel likes. A friend that knows the cartel boys  phoned them to ask for the truck back. They admitted to taking the truck but didn't want to give it back because they liked the truck so much. Negotiations to get the truck back are still in progress. About 10 vehicles were hijacked that morning.</p>
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Thanks Victorio. I never doubted your original story. I was interested in some corroboration. You say &quot;there has been a lot of info on this subject&quot;, but other than you and the poster who first mentioned it, (in only the briefest terms), I haven't seen any of this other info you mention. Rob posted links to several old news items that provide historical perspective on &quot;the problem&quot;, but nothing current.  </p>
<p>There are a couple of posters with limited attention spans who'd apparently <br />
&quot;like to move on&quot;. There's been a whole lot of deflection in this thread, but, other than from you, precious little meat on the bones of this story.</p>
</blockquote><p>I have had this incident confirmed by an unimpeachable source. I will not reveal any sources or victims because doing so places their lives at risk. I do hope my friends in Troncones will make an effort to bring this matter to the attention of their local authorities. I'm sure visitors and residents would be most interested to hear what La Unión's authorities have to say on the matter apart from politibabble, and especially what they are doing to prevent it from continuing.</p>
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<title>Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hola. There has been a lot of info on this subject, for the last time I will tell you what I know. At about 10AM a friend of a friend was driving north on 200 just north of Troncones. He was stopped by a group of about 15 people that had blocked the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. The truck was a newer model vehicle with blacked out windows, just what the cartel likes. A friend that knows the cartel boys  phoned them to ask for the truck back. They admitted to taking the truck but didn't want to give it back because they liked the truck so much. Negotiations to get the truck back are still in progress. About 10 vehicles were hijacked that morning.</p>
</blockquote><p>Thanks Victorio. I never doubted your original story. I was interested in some corroboration. You say &quot;there has been a lot of info on this subject&quot;, but other than you and the poster who first mentioned it, (in only the briefest terms), I haven't seen any of this other info you mention. Rob posted links to several old news items that provide historical perspective on &quot;the problem&quot;, but nothing current.  </p>
<p>There are a couple of posters with limited attention spans who'd apparently <br />
&quot;like to move on&quot;. There's been a whole lot of deflection in this thread, but, other than from you, precious little meat on the bones of this story.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that correction. </p>
<p>Inspired by the correction, I looked up US state slogans. Some of them really reflect “Truth in advertising”.</p>
<p>Oklahoma - “Oklahoma is OK”<br />
Nebraska - Nebraska: Honestly, it’s not for everyone.&quot;<br />
Maine - “It Must Be Maine”</p>
<p><a href="https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_slogans">https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_slogans</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be fair.  I have a friend with a similar situation. Lives near the golf course. Used luxury vehicle, second hand, stolen as she was getting in the car. The friend asked a high ranking municiple employee to intervene. They did and were told they needed to pay 10,000 USD to get the car back. Gee, if you don't see the conspiracy in that, you need a road map. They told the govt official to take a hike and collected the insurance instead.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missouri, not Minnesota, is the &quot;Show me&quot; state.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola . This may seem like hearsay to you, but I will not identify my friend or my friend of a friend without their permission. I know them both. Neither of them are on this board. My friend that is in negotiations with the cartel boys also does not frequent this board. I would not have posted anything that I did not think was truthful. Make fun of me all you want. Good luck finding your spaceships.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The friend of your friend may have conveyed completely accurate information about a real event. </p>
<p>A friend told me about a friend of his who saw a space ship. My friend may have been completely accurate in his report and his friend may have been completely accurate. </p>
<p>I have heard a lot of chisme over the years. Some of it seemed unbelievable. Some of the seemingly incredible was unbelievable for a reason; it wasn’t true. Some of it turned out to be accurate. </p>
<p>I’m not from Minnesota, which I understand is the “Show Me” state.  But still, I would have more confidence if there were some independent confirmation.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola. There has been a lot of info on this subject, for the last time I will tell you what I know. At about 10AM a friend of a friend was driving north on 200 just north of Troncones. He was stopped by a group of about 15 people that had blocked the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. The truck was a newer model vehicle with blacked out windows, just what the cartel likes. A friend that knows the cartel boys  phoned them to ask for the truck back. They admitted to taking the truck but didn't want to give it back because they liked the truck so much. Negotiations to get the truck back are still in progress. About 10 vehicles were hijacked that morning.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd throw some cash into that project!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all the to-and-fro, including Rob linking to several news stories from 2016, 2017 and 2018, we still have no details on what apparently happened along Rte. 200 on or about 21 Jan/19.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great!</p>
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</blockquote><p>Jejejejeje</p>
<p><img src="https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50986163_2377522642329832_6693168156665446400_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&amp;_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&amp;oh=451ee29fcc30aa79e378c72f0e262e44&amp;oe=5CF95FA6" alt="[image]" /></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La mejor de todas:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.vozihuatanejo.com.mx/index.php?news=26695">Príncipe de Camerún visita Zihuatanejo para charlar sobre la paz</a></strong></p>
<p>Quizás no se menciona Troncones, pero no hay duda de la región de los asaltos. Sí nos molesta la nota roja que menciona Zihuatanejo aunque es La Unión, pero nos preocupa igual.</p>
<p>He leído en Face varios comentarios año tras año de asaltos en este mismo tramo que nunca salen en los periódicos.</p>
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