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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back when the Sotavento closed and signs went up for the &quot;new&quot; residences,<br />
we were going to have a pool, placing bets on when they would be<br />
ready for occupancy.     <br />
Well, we were so relaxed on the beach that we never got the pool going.<br />
Not likely anyone would have bet 15+ years anyway.</p>
<p>There's still time to place your bets!</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2019 04:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Gayle in Calif.</dc:creator>
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<title>A nostalgic look back (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We first w to Zihuatanejo in ‘99 or 2000 and stayed  a couple times at the Sotavento in the next few years. A lot was the same and in the town a lot still is, so much has changed too. This is a great article:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1977/05/22/archives/mexicos-oldnew-resort-mexicos-oldnew-resort.html">https://www.nytimes.com/1977/05/22/archives/mexicos-oldnew-resort-mexicos-oldnew-resort.html</a></p>
</blockquote><p>Interesting article from 1977. If we ever get over to El Presidente (or whatever it's called these days) in Ixtapa for dinner, we'll probably pass on the &quot;polio pibil&quot;.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2019 02:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Ironwood</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. The natural beauty is quickly disappearing.  <img src="images/smilies/omg.gif" alt=":omg:" title="oh my goodness" /></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 01:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Pam &amp; Denny</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. <img src="images/smilies/wtf.gif" alt=":wtf:" title="WTF?" /></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Sun Seeker</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JEEZUSS HOSANNA FRIGGIN KEERIST! That is precisely the kind of building density that Zihuatanejo was never supposed to have, especially at Playa La Ropa.</p>
<p>So do the rest of us just give up having water so these high density monstrosities can have it?</p>
<p>High rises, high density constructions and time shares were three things Zihuatanejo was never supposed to have. But thanks to shortsightedness and greed... the circus has arrived! Makes me wanna puke!</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="https://scontent.fmex10-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/75394241_2858927730826751_7143643400619687936_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&amp;_nc_eui2=AeGYmfkQ5cXFthUd1dtYlkgOasWV497bN_8RNWEBS40bXIa4eJuoAIWx1JswWsllQFv8Ujd9vqLcbcGvu3JywSPnWBJ0t_Jd_A2MOhLiErxxgg&amp;_nc_oc=AQn-U4l5Pm8EomjmLR8itgmh1TVwnPn3FAiyD9Y6pRM6MaI-NGtLtQ1KeFz5H3n3SMk&amp;_nc_ht=scontent.fmex10-2.fna&amp;oh=c4777669b22d650f5e18a972e4bbabbf&amp;oe=5E503C8C" alt="[image]" /></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>timixtapa</dc:creator>
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<title>A nostalgic look back (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And isn't there a limit as to how high above sea level things are to be built?  </p>
<p>There is a short &quot;street&quot; across from Armando's tiendita that has three new homes on it, that just ends at the supposed building limit height.</p>
<p>Living in paradise.  It is still, but will it remain that way?  Hopefully!</p>
</blockquote><p>The limit was supposed to be 70 meters above sea level. La Cota 70. But that changed with Cerro del Vigía on one side and land invaders on the other.</p>
<p>Here's one of the invasions when it was only a few days old.<br />
<img src="http://www.zihuatanejo.net/images/temp/2012-05-19-invasion-lamajahua.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
<p>I really miss having wooded hills. Back when our future looked much different.<br />
<img src="http://www.zihuatanejo.net/images/temp/1999-11-09-cerroconbocotes.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2019 02:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And isn't there a limit as to how high above sea level things are to be built?  </p>
<p>There is a short &quot;street&quot; across from Armando's tiendita that has three new homes on it, that just ends at the supposed building limit height.</p>
<p>Living in paradise.  It is still, but will it remain that way?  Hopefully!</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2019 01:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Talley Ho</dc:creator>
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<title>A nostalgic look back (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>WOW!  What a great glimpse of the past.  Thank you!</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah, the beginning of the end. Did you like the part about nothing built higher than 3 stories in Zihuatanejo? Oops. Seems that got lost somewhere in the confusion.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.zihuatanejo.net/images/temp/catalina1-1.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
<p><img src="http://www.zihuatanejo.net/images/temp/catalina2-1.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
<p><img src="http://www.zihuatanejo.net/images/history/postal-playalasgatas-playalaropa(ca1970).jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2019 00:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<title>A nostalgic look back (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!  What a great glimpse of the past.  Thank you!</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2019 00:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Talley Ho</dc:creator>
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<title>A nostalgic look back (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We first traveled to Zihuatanejo in ‘99 or 2000 and stayed  a couple times at the Sotavento in the next few years. A lot was the same and in the town a lot still is, so much has changed too. This is a great article:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1977/05/22/archives/mexicos-oldnew-resort-mexicos-oldnew-resort.html">https://www.nytimes.com/1977/05/22/archives/mexicos-oldnew-resort-mexicos-oldnew-resort.html</a></p>
</blockquote><p>Thank you.<br />
Enjoyed the article.<br />
So sweet!</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2019 00:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>mosesk</dc:creator>
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<title>A nostalgic look back (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We first traveled to Zihuatanejo in ‘99 or 2000 and stayed  a couple times at the Sotavento in the next few years. A lot was the same and in the town a lot still is, so much has changed too. This is a great article:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1977/05/22/archives/mexicos-oldnew-resort-mexicos-oldnew-resort.html">https://www.nytimes.com/1977/05/22/archives/mexicos-oldnew-resort-mexicos-oldnew-resort.html</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 23:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Elena S</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there no mockup at the sales pavillion, or are you waiting for manna...?</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Curbarn</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;the party is over&quot; the project has stalled once again because developers are over leveraged or they are going to tear it down and build a high rise?</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 19:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Ottawa Joe</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got back to Zihua after a long absence and I can verify that there are, indeed, workers on the roof of the Sotavento that appear to be removing something - MANUALLY.  Can't imagine how long it will take to demolish the north building at this rate, but the fact that they haven't removed that big crane is worrisome to me.  One of the many reasons I love Zihua is that there aren't high rise buildings lining the beach.  That's what Ixtapa is for.  I really wish that the plans for the site were available.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 13:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Rafa Fan</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It was announced recently that the north tower is going to be demolished with the work starting several weeks ago.  Nothing yet.</p>
<p>Honestly, we don't think that anyone really knows anything about the proposed structures.  </p>
<p>The tower crane that was installed in April has not yet moved, and it's mid November.</p>
<p>Cross your fingers for some kind of positive ending.</p>
</blockquote><p>This is an old dog-eared story in this neck of the woods. That crane sitting there all these months costing tens of thousands of dollars for nothing says it all: the party’s over. Seen this movie before. </p>
<p>My how I miss the 20th century, especially before Reagan.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 03:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was announced recently that the north tower is going to be demolished with the work starting several weeks ago.  Nothing yet.</p>
<p>Honestly, we don't think that anyone really knows anything about the proposed structures.  </p>
<p>The tower crane that was installed in April has not yet moved, and it's mid November.</p>
<p>Cross your fingers for some kind of positive ending.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 01:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Talley Ho</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to find a rendering of the new towers that are being built.  I would like to know how tall they will be.  Will they block the beautiful view from the condos at La Preciosa across the street?</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 23:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Rafa Fan</dc:creator>
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