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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Again, this begs the question, how do we get people to stop this dangerous behavior?”<br />
People are people, you’re not going to stop the behavior but why ruin small businesses at the same time?  The city council here took a vote 3 days before Christmas to shut down everything except grocery stores, thank god not all of them were complete morons.</p>
</blockquote><p>So do you have any ideas about how to contain this pandemic? Do you believe that we should raise the white flag and allow the virus to run wild with the subsequent loss of life? </p>
<p>It is one thing to vent your anger and call epithets at individuals with whom you disagree with. It is quite another to come up with a coherent strategy in the face of invisible killer that our science is scrambling to understand.</p>
<p>I am in earnest. Some countries have managed to contain the virus while others have not. Unfortunately, the United States has demonstrated one of the worst responses and we are now suffering the consequences. This is not as it should have been. We can continue to yell and scream at and blame each other or we can acknowledge the problem and work to correct it.</p>
<p>In the meantime, vengan las vacunas!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>... then people move to private gatherings where there is no oversight or incentive to follow safety protocols.</p>
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Again, this begs the question, how do we get people to stop this dangerous behavior?</p>
<p>I have thought long and hard about this and just keep wracking my brain trying to figure out how we could impress upon a large percentage of our population just how serious this situation is. What could any leader? Obviously some of our leaders have made the situation worse with their antics. But even the leaders who had the public's interest at heart have been at a loss. </p>
<p>Yes, I agree that Governor Newsom demonstrated incredible stupidity in hosting that party. He took responsibility and apologized, unlike some other of our leaders.</p>
</blockquote><p>      Let’s say you’re mowing your lawn hit a rock and break your neighbors window but nobody sees you. You go next door, ring the bell, tell your neighbor what you did and pay to have the window fixed. That’s apologizing and taking responsibility. Newsome apologized because he got caught not because of what he did. The point being that when your Governor shuts down all indoor dining in the state because its just too dangerous and then takes his wife to a indoor dinner party it leads to only two conclusions, either he’s too ignorant to understand his own words or he doesn’t believe what he’s telling us poor hicks. At one point while he has all in person public schooling shut down because it just too dangerous his children were attending in person private schools. Now he has shut down all outdoor dining because its just too dangerous unless your a Hollywood producer or movie maker in which case you can set up outdoor dining facilities identical to the restaurants right across the street and serve all the food you want. Its hard to understand why people don't believe  Newsome or trust his judgement.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Again, this begs the question, how do we get people to stop this dangerous behavior?”<br />
People are people, you’re not going to stop the behavior but why ruin small businesses at the same time?  The city council here took a vote 3 days before Christmas to shut down everything except grocery stores, thank god not all of them were complete morons.</p>
</blockquote><p>Not sure where you are all living? But restaurants, bars, bowling alleys, movie theaters have ALL done serious damage to our population. <strong>Quite frankly it is not my fault your are in the wrong business right now. </strong></p>
<p>Bury your debts in bankruptcy when this is over <strong>and move on. </strong> Quit crying.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Again, this begs the question, how do we get people to stop this dangerous behavior?”<br />
People are people, you’re not going to stop the behavior but why ruin small businesses at the same time?  The city council here took a vote 3 days before Christmas to shut down everything except grocery stores, thank god not all of them were complete morons.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yesterday, 1/3/21 at the south end of La Ropa at 4 pm, the beach was packed with people. The only masks that could be seen were worn by the vendors and servers in the restaurants.  Definitely not a good situation.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recall the SOB</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>... then people move to private gatherings where there is no oversight or incentive to follow safety protocols.</p>
</blockquote><p>Again, this begs the question, how do we get people to stop this dangerous behavior?</p>
<p>I have thought long and hard about this and just keep wracking my brain trying to figure out how we could impress upon a large percentage of our population just how serious this situation is. What could any leader? Obviously some of our leaders have made the situation worse with their antics. But even the leaders who had the public's interest at heart have been at a loss. </p>
<p>Yes, I agree that Governor Newsom demonstrated incredible stupidity in hosting that party. He took responsibility and apologized, unlike some other of our leaders.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe follow the science. New York stats show 1.43% of Covid infections  came from bars and restaurants and 73.84% from private gatherings. So if you close all the restaurants, who actually spent thousands of dollars setting up safe dining spaces and follow strict protocols, then people move to private gatherings where there is no oversight or incentive to follow safety protocols. Also if you are the Governor and you’re trying to convince people that dinning in large groups indoors with no masks or social distancing is deadly you should probably not dine at the French Laundry with a large group of people including 2 people the California Medical Association. People might start thinking you don’t actually believe what you’re saying.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Back here in California with everything shut down and still no ICU beds.  Stupid governor idea of shutting everything down didn’t work as it doesn’t stop large family gatherings.  All he accomplished was to destroy small businesses and yes we did sign the recall.</p>
</blockquote><p>So let's say that you were appointed Governor/Emperor/Brave Leader, what would you have done to stop the spread of Covid? How would you stop the large family gatherings that you say were the biggest culprit of the spread?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“And just how are you managing getting the vaccine at your age?”</p>
<p>Never said it made sense Dave, I work in Finance for a healthcare system.  That makes me tier 1 in California, my poor wife that is a dental hygienist is tier 3 and has no clue when it will be her turn.  I’m actually just sitting here waiting 15 minutes after my shot, they called and asked if I could come in early.</p>
</blockquote><p>Good on you, Craig. I'd've thought your lovely wife would've gone first, too. Weird. You need to make it up to her, amigo. <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" alt=";-)" title="wink" /></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“And just how are you managing getting the vaccine at your age?”</p>
<p>Never said it made sense Dave, I work in Finance for a healthcare system.  That makes me tier 1 in California, my poor wife that is a dental hygienist is tier 3 and has no clue when it will be her turn.  I’m actually just sitting here waiting 15 minutes after my shot, they called and asked if I could come in early.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the responses. As I noted, in most places in Canada, masks are mandated in all public indoor spaces, (stores, banks, doctors' offices, etc), but not outdoors, unless where there are large gatherings. And since all large gatherings, in or outdoors, are prohibited, mask-wearing outdoors is basically non-existent. Like everyone else, we can't wait to get out of stores, so we can remove our masks.<br />
Obviously, Mexican society is different: where we tend to travel by car to large shopping centres, leaving most streets empty of pedestrians most of the time, (and particularly so during a Canadian winter), Mexican life is lived outside and on the streets, where physical distancing is difficult, if not impossible. Hence a requirement to either wear a mask outdoors, or at least have one at the ready.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He works in healthcare. My niece, who is an outpatient medical assistant, got her first dose last Friday.</p>
</blockquote><p>Works in an office???   Ya, so does my wife?  My 84 y/o mother with less than 80% lung function would like the vaccine too. </p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He works in healthcare. My niece, who is an outpatient medical assistant, got her first dose last Friday.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I generally don’t wear a mask outside but do keep one in my shirt pocket just in case we get near a crowd.  When we walked on the cyclopista in October we wore no masks unless we approached a group just standing on the path.  I work at a healthcare system with about 8,500 employees.  When doing contact tracing the exposure needs to be at a minimum of 15 minutes before we will test for the exposure.  I just work in an office setting and we have had a few employees come to work while they were positive.  Not one has spread to another coworker.  I really doubt that passing by someone going the other way is going to give you any true exposure.  If you are concerned about it hold your breath for 10 seconds as you pass.  The people that I know that ended up being positive got it from family gatherings except for my boss, that one will be a mystery forever.  I’m hoping that Zihuatanejo will continue to do good with everyone staying outside and away from the crowded bars.  I’m off today to get my first Pfizer vaccine shot today.  Should have got it December 24th but we were heading to Cabo on the 26th for a week and didn’t want to worry about side effects.</p>
<p>I did see plenty of people at airports not wearing their masks properly or not at all, unfortunately nobody is enforcing it<br />
US or Mexico.  On the plane though the flight attendants are doing a good job enforcing it along with announcements from the captains.  I do have to agree with Rob as the average Mexican seems to be doing a better job of mask wearing than the average gringo.  This has been going on for so long now and so many bad moves have been made many are just done.  Back here in California with everything shut down and still no ICU beds.  Stupid governor idea of shutting everything down didn’t work as it doesn’t stop large family gatherings.  All he accomplished was to destroy small businesses and yes we did sign the recall.</p>
</blockquote><p>And just how are you managing getting the vaccine at your age?</p>
<p>D</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally don’t wear a mask outside but do keep one in my shirt pocket just in case we get near a crowd.  When we walked on the cyclopista in October we wore no masks unless we approached a group just standing on the path.  I work at a healthcare system with about 8,500 employees.  When doing contact tracing the exposure needs to be at a minimum of 15 minutes before we will test for the exposure.  I just work in an office setting and we have had a few employees come to work while they were positive.  Not one has spread to another coworker.  I really doubt that passing by someone going the other way is going to give you any true exposure.  If you are concerned about it hold your breath for 10 seconds as you pass.  The people that I know that ended up being positive got it from family gatherings except for my boss, that one will be a mystery forever.  I’m hoping that Zihuatanejo will continue to do good with everyone staying outside and away from the crowded bars.  I’m off today to get my first Pfizer vaccine shot today.  Should have got it December 24th but we were heading to Cabo on the 26th for a week and didn’t want to worry about side effects.</p>
<p>I did see plenty of people at airports not wearing their masks properly or not at all, unfortunately nobody is enforcing it<br />
US or Mexico.  On the plane though the flight attendants are doing a good job enforcing it along with announcements from the captains.  I do have to agree with Rob as the average Mexican seems to be doing a better job of mask wearing than the average gringo.  This has been going on for so long now and so many bad moves have been made many are just done.  Back here in California with everything shut down and still no ICU beds.  Stupid governor idea of shutting everything down didn’t work as it doesn’t stop large family gatherings.  All he accomplished was to destroy small businesses and yes we did sign the recall.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the beautiful, but redneck infested Bitterroot Valley in Montana. Our Democrat Governor requires people to wear masks when going to stores, etc. All have notices on their doors reminding you of that requirement. Costco and Walmart in Missoula, for example, won't let you in without one. I went to 3 different auto supply stores here in Hamilton the other day. In spite of the signs on the doors, not a single employee was wearing one. At Safeway I saw employees with masks, but none of them were being worn properly; i.e. below the nose, or around the neck, and one of the checkers was licking her fingers in order to facilitate counting paper money! Governor Bullock's term expires in a few days and he's being replaced by a forget-the-masks Republican. Funeral parlors must be celebrating in anticipation of increasing business.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where I live in the US you are not required to wear a mask outdoors unless you are unable to maintain 6 feet of distance between you and others who are not members of your household. So on my daily walk, I always have a mask in hand for when I encounter others and can't easily detour to maintain distance. It's a sign of respect for others since any such encounters are quite brief. Mask wearing in the US has become politicized so there is a great deal of variability throughout the country, resulting in our horrific numbers.</p>
<p>If I were in a crowded area such as El Centro in Zihua, I would wear a mask and would want to see others doing the same.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was totally disappointed today to see so many people not wearing facemasks in the streets. Mostly Mexican tourists but also around a dozen or so foreigners throughout the day. Mexican tourists are easier to forgive than foreigners. <strong>Don't be a Covidiot! #UsaCubreboca</strong></p>
</blockquote><p>Thanks for these updates. I've wondered about the apparent requirement ( or strong recommendation) to wear masks outdoors, on the streets. Several areas in Canada are currently in the midst of stringent COVID &quot;lock-downs&quot;.....Ottawa and Toronto, for example.....but regulations have never extended to requiring mask-wearing outdoors. Indoors, in all public places, which I assume would include all public transportation, but not outdoors. Anyone from the USA care to comment?</p>
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<p>As of today Zihuatanejo has registered a cumulative total of 1,600 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (three more than yesterday), 132 that have resulted in fatalities, 2 that are currently active, and approximately 1,362 that have recovered. Our neighboring municipios of Petatlán and La Unión both currently have zero active cases.</p>
<p>I was totally disappointed today to see so many people not wearing facemasks in the streets. Mostly Mexican tourists but also around a dozen or so foreigners throughout the day. Mexican tourists are easier to forgive than foreigners. <strong>Don't be a Covidiot! #UsaCubreboca</strong></p>
<p>Did it snow last night? It was too cold to get out of bed until almost 9:00 AM. Had to wait for the thaw. <img src="images/smilies/coolshades.gif" alt="B-)" title="cool" /> </p>
<p>Did anyone notice the earth is closest to the sun in its orbit today (at perihelion)? I found the light quite intense even with shades on. Today's photo was taken late this afternoon, but the light was still quite intense.</p>
<p>There are many out-of-the-way lodgings to enjoy here so that you can safely vacation while avoiding crowds, if you like. Please see some of the truly lovely lodgings available that I can wholeheartedly recommend.<br />
<strong><a href="http://www.zihuatanejo.net/rentals.html">Vacation Homes, Villas and Condos in Zihuatanejo-Ixtapa, Troncones, Barra de Potosí and Puerto Vicente Guerrero</a></strong></p>
<p>Another busy day on the beach for vacationers.<br />
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