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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>The Midwest brings more people to the area than flights from the coast. So who cares, won't affect anything.</p>
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I reminded the mayor that his Blue Flag policies were responsible for many of those foreigners not coming or choosing a different destination such as Troncones. I know in your case you don't care about the Blue Flag rules, but the same year Ixtapa saw it's &quot;certificación de playa limpia&quot; which banned pets from the beach, I began receiving e-mails from property owners and long-term renters in Ixtapa saying adiós. Some of those properties are STILL for sale because the market is so bad. A trend that has only continued with the Blue Flagging of Playa La Ropa. Since the bureaucrats and politicians don't live from tourism, they couldn't care less. They only care about the high NUMBERS of visitors, a number inflated by the busloads of people who come here, sleep ten to a room if they stay overnight at a cheap hotel, (not all bus tourists stay overnight), bring everything with them in coolers, and leave lots of garbage behind while hardly spending anything here except maybe at Oxxo. While we're all happy to see those tourists enjoy themselves, using their numbers to justify bad policies only fools the poorly informed. The situation in the centros comerciales of Ixtapa clearly shows the results of almost 10 years of bad policies: a cheapened tourist destination rotting from within, unable to sustain the local population it was supposedly planned for.</p>
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I am not so sure your have the &quot;pulse&quot; on everything. The only real policies that killed business is &quot;all inclusive&quot; <br />
The only thing that has saved some business <strong>are the condos that have been built in Ixtapa. </strong> </p>
<p>Your real estate woes are not true. Our building for example has 177 units and there is a no pet policy since the building was built. Since I have rented in the building since inception and now own, there has been many changes. One major change is the amount of units for sale. I have NEVER seen such <strong>a low inventory of units for sale </strong>in the building, EVER.  </p>
<p>There has also been a shift to younger people buying condos in the building.</p>
<p>The fact is, traveling with a pet on vacation is a big pain in the ass. Also this number of people who do this is low compared to the rest of us.</p>
<p><strong>For Ixtapa, I see the beach rules as a non factor. </strong></p>
</blockquote><p>Your memory apparently only goes back as far as the condo where you live. I recall long before it was built. (And I really enjoyed the view while nothing sat in its place after the Aristos was torn down, another building I watched get built.) You also somehow imagine all those condo owners live here. Most of them don't, and their condos sit empty most of the year, and they're still selling for the same prices here as similar condos were selling for 40 years ago on Florida's west coast. But I was referring to HOME owners, people who spend serious money and time here, not just condo commandos. Properties that sold for a million dollars or more 10 or so years ago sit on the market today for half that price. Condo owners and renters do not spend as much daily as non-all-included hotel guests do. Non all-included hotel guests are always our biggest source of income. But for over a decade now the majority of Ixtapa's hotels in the &quot;Zona Hotelera I&quot; have offered exclusively all-included packages, which cheapens Ixtapa and kills the centros comerciales. So then where is the Return-On-Investment from the <em>certificación de la playa</em> as &quot;Blue Flag&quot;? The government acquired a special budget to earn and to maintain that designation, a budget that I have said from the beginning was only used to pay political favors, same as the policy itself does. There is no evidence at all that the policy has increased the amount of tourists with the purchasing power our community needs to survive. And THAT is the point. Not how many units are for sale in your condo. Neither condos nor time-shares will ever beat hotels at generating income for a tourist resort destination. Ask anyone who lives and works on any barrier island in Florida.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>The Midwest brings more people to the area than flights from the coast. So who cares, won't affect anything.</p>
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I reminded the mayor that his Blue Flag policies were responsible for many of those foreigners not coming or choosing a different destination such as Troncones. I know in your case you don't care about the Blue Flag rules, but the same year Ixtapa saw it's &quot;certificación de playa limpia&quot; which banned pets from the beach, I began receiving e-mails from property owners and long-term renters in Ixtapa saying adiós. Some of those properties are STILL for sale because the market is so bad. A trend that has only continued with the Blue Flagging of Playa La Ropa. Since the bureaucrats and politicians don't live from tourism, they couldn't care less. They only care about the high NUMBERS of visitors, a number inflated by the busloads of people who come here, sleep ten to a room if they stay overnight at a cheap hotel, (not all bus tourists stay overnight), bring everything with them in coolers, and leave lots of garbage behind while hardly spending anything here except maybe at Oxxo. While we're all happy to see those tourists enjoy themselves, using their numbers to justify bad policies only fools the poorly informed. The situation in the centros comerciales of Ixtapa clearly shows the results of almost 10 years of bad policies: a cheapened tourist destination rotting from within, unable to sustain the local population it was supposedly planned for.</p>
</blockquote><p>I am not so sure your have the &quot;pulse&quot; on everything. The only real policies that killed business is &quot;all inclusive&quot; <br />
The only thing that has saved some business <strong>are the condos that have been built in Ixtapa. </strong> </p>
<p>Your real estate woes are not true. Our building for example has 177 units and there is a no pet policy since the building was built. Since I have rented in the building since inception and now own, there has been many changes. One major change is the amount of units for sale. I have NEVER seen such <strong>a low inventory of units for sale </strong>in the building, EVER.  </p>
<p>There has also been a shift to younger people buying condos in the building.</p>
<p>The fact is, traveling with a pet on vacation is a big pain in the ass. Also this number of people who do this is low compared to the rest of us.</p>
<p><strong>For Ixtapa, I see the beach rules as a non factor. </strong></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Midwest brings more people to the area than flights from the coast. So who cares, won't affect anything.</p>
</blockquote><p>I reminded the mayor that his Blue Flag policies were responsible for many of those foreigners not coming or choosing a different destination such as Troncones. I know in your case you don't care about the Blue Flag rules, but the same year Ixtapa saw it's &quot;certificación de playa limpia&quot; which banned pets from the beach, I began receiving e-mails from property owners and long-term renters in Ixtapa saying adiós. Some of those properties are STILL for sale because the market is so bad. A trend that has only continued with the Blue Flagging of Playa La Ropa. Since the bureaucrats and politicians don't live from tourism, they couldn't care less. They only care about the high NUMBERS of visitors, a number inflated by the busloads of people who come here, sleep ten to a room if they stay overnight at a cheap hotel, (not all bus tourists stay overnight), bring everything with them in coolers, and leave lots of garbage behind while hardly spending anything here except maybe at Oxxo. While we're all happy to see those tourists enjoy themselves, using their numbers to justify bad policies only fools the poorly informed. The situation in the centros comerciales of Ixtapa clearly shows the results of almost 10 years of bad policies: a cheapened tourist destination rotting from within, unable to sustain the local population it was supposedly planned for.</p>
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<p>Not sure why I'm still seeing foreigners who look like Gringos not wearing facemasks while walking among people in the streets and along the Paseo del Pescador. What part of EL USO DE CUBREBOCAS ES OBLIGATORIO do they not understand?</p>
<p>Our weather couldn't be more beautiful. Yes, a bit warm if you move around too much in the sunshine during the middle hours of the day, but perfect if you're in a shady spot with a breeze swinging gently in a hammock in the shade listening to the sound of the waves in Zihuatanejo's bay with a cool refreshment at hand.</p>
<p>The late afternoon and evening rains have been making for perfect sleeping weather, cooling things down just enough. And of course taking a shower in the evening requires no hot water as the ambient temp is simply perfect. </p>
<p>Such a privilege to live where the weather is pretty darn near perfect year round.</p>
<p>The local government is making a big whoopteedoo in the social media about Alaska Airlines scheduling a direct flight from San Francisco beginning December 18. They could just as easily cancel it, then would the government also try to take credit? <img src="images/smilies/devil.gif" alt=":devil:" title="devilish" /> </p>
<p><strong>¡Cuidemos nuestro patrimonio!<br />
#NoAlBlueFlag<br />
#NoAlBlueFlagEnPlayaLaMadera<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/zihuarob/posts/4094632863924610">#PreservemosPlayaManzanillo</a></strong></p>
<p>Except for half the beach being paved, what a treat this was to see this morning. (Even if they got rid of half these lamps there would still be too many.)<br />
<img src="http://www.zihuatanejo.net/images/temp/2021-08-14-amanecer-paseoponiente-palapa-nube-resplandor.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
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