Thanks, I'll have to say that if I did have such knowledge, I would try not apply it toward her from a high brow point of view and likely pretend I did not know the facts while asking for more stories. But it is interesting to learn that it has happened before. All I know is whatever that black manatee-sized body was there underwater that swallowed that diving duck, and at only an arm's reach away, I'm glad he had duck on the brain and not this hombre focused in!

Interacting with locals is all I do nowadays. True I come to Zihua like a snowbird but since I live in Mexico I just do it because it's warm and a better way to spend my time than feeding the black holes of the stone buildings of the central highlands, something that will suck in and swallow as much propane as one can burn at them. Leaving the US forever this past year with no reason to return was a great break from the politics, and my record now with Canadians is outside of having met two very well-traveled and highly educated ones who also focus on Mexican people and culture instead of pickle-ball and tody-parties was very refreshing this trip. (The most interesting thing about Canadian snowbirds from a general sense is how they do school like fish avoiding the locals everywhere they go. As far as those from the USA, I've only seen a couple this trip and they were are friendly to me as to everyone else they shun, so I at least didn't feel slighted in receiving what anyone would expect. I know that I've given up inviting old friends from the USA. The ones who do still travel think this is a little too far down the class scale for them and prefer Cancun and vicinity. I've also given up trying to explain how everything that glitters is not gold.)

So as I speculated many years ago, the locals are the gold that's still found in the hills (and on the beaches here). Yet still, soaked in Gringoitus, I can't help but ask for a fennel seed or rye bread recipe here and there LOL. Cheers my Zihua amigos! And thanks for the history lesson not clearly available elsewhere.

You did good, amigo, and I love your attitude. Now get to work on that Spanish so you don't need translators!

Interacting with locals is all I do nowadays. True I come to Zihua like a snowbird but since I live in Mexico I just do it because it's warm and a better way to spend my time than feeding the black holes of the stone buildings of the central highlands, something that will suck in and swallow as much propane as one can burn at them. Leaving the US forever this past year with no reason to return was a great break from the politics, and my record now with Canadians is outside of having met two very well-traveled and highly educated ones who also focus on Mexican people and culture instead of pickle-ball and tody-parties was very refreshing this trip. (The most interesting thing about Canadian snowbirds from a general sense is how they do school like fish avoiding the locals everywhere they go. As far as those from the USA, I've only seen a couple this trip and they were are friendly to me as to everyone else they shun, so I at least didn't feel slighted in receiving what anyone would expect. I know that I've given up inviting old friends from the USA. The ones who do still travel think this is a little too far down the class scale for them and prefer Cancun and vicinity. I've also given up trying to explain how everything that glitters is not gold.)

So as I speculated many years ago, the locals are the gold that's still found in the hills (and on the beaches here). Yet still, soaked in Gringoitus, I can't help but ask for a fennel seed or rye bread recipe here and there LOL. Cheers my Zihua amigos! And thanks for the history lesson not clearly available elsewhere.

It is nice, however that you had such a great time in the water!!!

Met the most interesting woman and her daughter at about 5' depth for a communal "bob". I was ecstatic. The woman could speak only Spanish and her daughter, unclear if in college or still in high school was studying both English and French and was the best translator I ever had for all the "stump words" that leave me dangling once a conversation advances so far beyond superficial that I start tripping over myself and looking cross eyed.

I was cold and today the water seemed colder than any day in the last couple of months. Today was a unique "see your toes day", one of only 3 in the same amount of time. In a matter of our 30 minute conversation, six feet apart we had a pelican dive between the two of us and also the black diving duck pop up. Then a fish that looked to be 4' long literally made a swirl like a toilet flushing and whatever was swimming just two feet away perhaps disappeared. It had to be the duck was my largest suspicion.

Anyway the lady said they were natives of Zihua but her husband was in the military and they had been stationed all over the country and didn't get back that often but recently were lucky enough to be stationed here at the momennt. She then went on to explain the 3 events that happened in a time period of 15 minutes while we were talking were extremely strange. She said the water was unseasonably cold and there in the cove for the first time in history a mother whale and her calf had been spotted in the bay. She said on several occasions dolphins had also been spotted in the bay. She attributed it to climate change. Father then too soon whistled and mother/daughter returned to the family gathering on the beach while I remained to do my daily wave riding ritual. Super encounter but it made me wonder if anyone else was following along with these stories and has anyone any further info?

Well, it's good to see you interacting with locals, but either something was lost in translation, or someone isn't as knowledgeable about our bay as she might appear. Probably because of her youth she doesn't have the memories and experiences that others of us have.

We've had whales in the bay before. This year isn't the first time by a long shot. I've seen photos of other instances. And dolphins in the bay is also quite normal, though there used to be more when there wasn't so much boat activity in the bay.

The water is actually at its seasonal average temperature, but yes, it feels cool to locals. It'll likely remain this way until late April.

Pelicans diving and cormorants (patos buzos) swimming around fishing is nothing new. The folks who swim and fish off the downtown beach each morning experience these things daily. It's a good sign that our bay remains relatively healthy, in spite of the damage it's suffered especially since the construction of the espigón at Puerto Mío.

I was cold and today the water seemed colder than any day in the last couple of months. Today was a unique "see your toes day", one of only 3 in the same amount of time. In a matter of our 30 minute conversation, six feet apart we had a pelican dive between the two of us and also the black diving duck pop up. Then a fish that looked to be 4' long literally made a swirl like a toilet flushing and whatever was swimming just two feet away perhaps disappeared. It had to be the duck was my largest suspicion.

Anyway the lady said they were natives of Zihua but her husband was in the military and they had been stationed all over the country and didn't get back that often but recently were lucky enough to be stationed here at the momennt. She then went on to explain the 3 events that happened in a time period of 15 minutes while we were talking were extremely strange. She said the water was unseasonably cold and there in the cove for the first time in history a mother whale and her calf had been spotted in the bay. She said on several occasions dolphins had also been spotted in the bay. She attributed it to climate change. Father then too soon whistled and mother/daughter returned to the family gathering on the beach while I remained to do my daily wave riding ritual. Super encounter but it made me wonder if anyone else was following along with these stories and has anyone any further info?