"People don't like to be confused by the facts. The truth is that there is no level of alcohol that is safe."

Interesting comment. I think the word "safe" (ie,lack thereof) connotes a sense of impending or immediate doom to most persons. Yet plenty of old-timers (George Burns, who lived to 100, comes to mind) freely admit they been having a gin martini a night--actually 2 for George-- for decades. It reminds me of the dermatologist who warns us to wear long-sleeved shirts on a sunny day--do you know anyone who actually does this? I don't.
Let's remember that Keith Richards lived much much longer than exercise-obsessed health guru Jim Fixx...
I guess my point is, we could all live longer if we watched Joel Osteen preach every night, tucking into bed at 10 PM after a cursory read of Corinthians, or Proust, followed by jumping jacks and Himalayan bath salts, and never had a beer or smoked a joint and never wandered around the neighborhood after dark for fear of getting mugged, or never had sex for fear of papilloma or chlamydia. Even Jesus Christ made a distinction between drinking and wanton drunkenness...if I remember my New Testament.
“And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit.”
So go out and eat, drink and be merry--tomorrow you may be in Utah.

My apologies as the point of the post may have been misconstrued. It was not an exhortation to abstain entirely from alcohol. The post was meant to counter the common misconception that moderate drinking is actually good for you. The science shows it is not.

Having said that, we should remember the immortal words of John Mortimer's character, the lawyer Rumpole of the Bailey: "No pleasurable vice is worth giving up for an extra five years in the Sunnyvale Rest Home."

Let's remember that Keith Richards lived much much longer than exercise-obsessed health guru Jim Fixx...

Wow! RIP, Keith.

"People don't like to be confused by the facts. The truth is that there is no level of alcohol that is safe."

Interesting comment. I think the word "safe" (ie,lack thereof) connotes a sense of impending or immediate doom to most persons. Yet plenty of old-timers (George Burns, who lived to 100, comes to mind) freely admit they been having a gin martini a night--actually 2 for George-- for decades. It reminds me of the dermatologist who warns us to wear long-sleeved shirts on a sunny day--do you know anyone who actually does this? I don't.
Let's remember that Keith Richards lived much much longer than exercise-obsessed health guru Jim Fixx...
I guess my point is, we could all live longer if we watched Joel Osteen preach every night, tucking into bed at 10 PM after a cursory read of Corinthians, or Proust, followed by jumping jacks and Himalayan bath salts, and never had a beer or smoked a joint and never wandered around the neighborhood after dark for fear of getting mugged, or never had sex for fear of papilloma or chlamydia. Even Jesus Christ made a distinction between drinking and wanton drunkenness...if I remember my New Testament.
“And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit.”
So go out and eat, drink and be merry--tomorrow you may be in Utah.

Anyone who watches Joel Osteen is already dead

Interesting comment. I think the word "safe" (ie,lack thereof) connotes a sense of impending or immediate doom to most persons. Yet plenty of old-timers (George Burns, who lived to 100, comes to mind) freely admit they been having a gin martini a night--actually 2 for George-- for decades. It reminds me of the dermatologist who warns us to wear long-sleeved shirts on a sunny day--do you know anyone who actually does this? I don't.
Let's remember that Keith Richards lived much much longer than exercise-obsessed health guru Jim Fixx...
I guess my point is, we could all live longer if we watched Joel Osteen preach every night, tucking into bed at 10 PM after a cursory read of Corinthians, or Proust, followed by jumping jacks and Himalayan bath salts, and never had a beer or smoked a joint and never wandered around the neighborhood after dark for fear of getting mugged, or never had sex for fear of papilloma or chlamydia. Even Jesus Christ made a distinction between drinking and wanton drunkenness...if I remember my New Testament.
“And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit.”
So go out and eat, drink and be merry--tomorrow you may be in Utah.

Thanx brother - well what’s even funnier - I’m trying to quit drinking ! I don’t know why I posted this lol- I need to be staying away from bars !!! guess I got excited as my first day here and those were my old ways. God bless.

People don't like to be confused by the facts. The truth is that there is no level of alcohol that is safe. The famous study that showed moderate drinking to be better for your health than abstinence was flawed because the researchers didn't correct for those abstainers who were not drinking because they had already developed complications from alcohol.

Is It Better to Drink a Little Alcohol Than None at All?

Dontcha' jest hate it when science gets in the way of having a good time?!

I’m not a newbie but haven’t been around lately just landed what are the top local expat bars 2024 zihua ? Thanx cheers.

I am the worst person to ask this question. However, I have observed on my occasions that in el Centro de Zihua, there are several small bars on the corners of streets. The stools are adjacent to the sideways. Expats congregate and spend the whole day imbibing. Se habla inglés, naturalmente.