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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muchísimas gracias por la información. <img src="images/smilies/thumbs-up_1f44d.png" alt=":thumbsup:" title="thumbs up" /></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2025 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To obtain an **amparo** (constitutional protection) as a *civil society organization* (Asociación Civil) against a municipality like **Zihuatanejo** for banning **dogs on the beach**, you need to follow a legal process showing that:</p>
<p>1. The municipality overstepped its authority**, since beaches are federal property.<br />
2. Your constitutional rights or legal interests were violated**, such as freedom of movement, legal certainty, or property rights.</p>
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<p>Legal Basis</p>
<p>**Mexican beaches are public federal property**, regulated under:</p>
<p>* Artículo 27 de la Constitución<br />
* Ley General de Bienes Nacionales<br />
* Ley General del Equilibrio Ecológico y la Protección al Ambiente**</p>
<p>**Municipalities have no authority to legislate over federal land**, unless expressly delegated.</p>
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<p>### ✅ Requirements to File an Amparo as a Civil Society (A.C.)</p>
<p>1. **Legal Standing (Interés Jurídico o Legítimo)**<br />
   Your civil association must demonstrate:</p>
<p>   * A **direct, personal, and legitimate interest** in the use/enjoyment of the beach (e.g., promoting environmental or animal rights, beach activities, etc.).<br />
   * That **the rule or act affects your purpose or members**.</p>
<p>2. **Claim Against an Authority (Acto de Autoridad)**<br />
   The municipality of Zihuatanejo (or its officials) is acting **outside their competence** by enforcing rules on federal land.</p>
<p>3. **Proof of the Act or Norm**<br />
   This includes:</p>
<p>   * Municipal circulars, rules, or enforcement practices that ban dogs.<br />
   * Any signage, fines, or police orders being enforced.</p>
<p>4. **Violation of Rights**<br />
   You must show how this ban:</p>
<p>   * Infringes on federal law.<br />
   * Violates your organization’s purpose or your members' rights (e.g., right to a healthy environment, public access to federal property, freedom of movement, etc.).</p>
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<p>### ???? Procedural Steps</p>
<p>| Step | Description                                                                                                                                     |<br />
| ---- | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |<br />
| 1.   | **Gather evidence** of enforcement: photos of signs, official rules, witness testimonies, etc.                                                  |<br />
| 2.   | **Have your A.C. properly constituted**, with bylaws that support environmental or civic advocacy.                                              |<br />
| 3.   | **File the amparo** through a constitutional lawyer in the **Juzgado de Distrito** in Guerrero.                                                 |<br />
| 4.   | Request a **suspensión provisional**, so the municipality cannot enforce the rule during the process.                                           |<br />
| 5.   | Litigate the amparo through its phases: admission, informe justificado (response by the authority), audiencia constitucional, and final ruling. |</p>
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<p>### ⚠️ Strategic Considerations</p>
<p>* Mention that **Blue Flag certification** has **no legal binding power** in Mexico, and **cannot justify a restriction** unless federal law supports it.<br />
* Consider **citing jurisprudence** that says municipalities cannot limit access to federal beaches unless authorized.<br />
* A court might reject your amparo if you don’t clearly show **harm** or **legal standing**, so it helps to include members or evidence of people directly affected.</p>
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<p>### ???? Legal Tips</p>
<p>* Make sure the amparo is not *notoriamente improcedente* (clearly inadmissible).<br />
* Cite **jurisprudencias** like:</p>
<p>  * Tesis 2a./J. 143/2004: Sobre facultades de los municipios.<br />
  * Jurisprudencia de la SCJN: Las playas son bienes de uso común, no pueden privatizarse ni restringirse sin causa legal.</p>
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<p>I says here it needs to be done in guerrero but it is not true as the beach is federal property you can do it in mexico city where the government of zihuatanejo has little influence.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2025 06:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can’t imagine the mayor or family being anti-dog.  Their beagles ran around during ing a fund raiser to most everyone’s amusement.</p>
</blockquote><p>A person can be a dog owner and also not be a responsible dog owner. I think of the number of dogs I have seen in Mexico tethered on a short lead for hours, in the sun, the rain, or even in tropical stormsi.</p>
<p>I think of the number of irresponsible dog owners who let their “furry children” out onto the street exposed to traffic and the number of dogs I see dead at the side of roads because of those irresponsible owners. </p>
<p>When I take my dog for walks (always with poop bags) on beaches we commonly see dogs unaccompanied. Even when accompanied, only once have I seen the human with dog poop bags. </p>
<p>The problems are not with responsible dog owners. The problems are with irresponsible dog owners. </p>
<p><strong>The person in the video ought not to be vilified and penalized. They ought to be held up as an example of how people ought to behave. </strong></p>
<p>But it appears that the “<em>good burghers&quot;</em> of Zihuatanejo don’t care enough about dogs, dog ownership, or visitors to their beaches to require even the licensing of dog ownership. Not only are dog licenses not required, from as best as I can determine, dog licenses are not even available. </p>
<p>With dog licensing, responsible dog owners and their pets could enjoy their time together in paradise and irresponsible owners could be held accountable.</p>
<p>This man ought to be awarded, not arrested.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2025 21:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Little Guy</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are serious dog haters.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2025 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds weak. Suelte la Sopa.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2025 00:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
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<title>ABUSE OF AUTHORITY / Currency (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Dictators,  take a look at  Venezuela's  Bolivar,  plunging into nothingness by the  hour  as Maduro continues to rule the  Banana Republic with an iron fist.  I hear he's  shutting down  dollar-trackers now,  hoping no one  notices.<br />
<em>Like arresting  the weatherman for  showing  the  oncoming  hurricane.</em></p>
<p>“The fierce repression began in June when they shut down websites publishing exchange rates and arrested 56 people, accusing them of trading dollars at unofficial rates,” Guerra said. “Then they arrested three well-known economists — including two from the National Academy of Economic Sciences and a university dean — and later detained two [observatory] associates, whose whereabouts remain unknown.”</p>
<p><br />
<a href="https://gazette.com/ap/international/as-venezuela-s-currency-crashes-maduro-locks-up-analysts-shuts-down-dollar-trackers/article_7d6d0bec-46e5-5137-bb24-e80de9b65aee.html">https://gazette.com/ap/international/as-venezuela-s-currency-crashes-maduro-locks-up-analysts-shuts-down-dollar-trackers/article_7d6d0bec-46e5-5137...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2025 00:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can’t imagine the mayor or family being anti-dog.  Their beagles ran around during ing a fund raiser to most everyone’s amusement.</p>
</blockquote><p>I can. I know more than I care to write in public.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2025 00:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could they possibly owe political favors to the owner of La Perla?</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 23:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parece otro execution en Playa Larga paso hoy.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 23:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t imagine the mayor or family being anti-dog.  Their beagles ran around during ing a fund raiser to most everyone’s amusement.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 22:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ain't going to happen.</p>
<p>People are executed every 2 days and no action.</p>
<p>If you are savy enough you will see posts where Locals blame Gringos for crazy rent and food costs.</p>
<p>Gentrification is real.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 22:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. A dog on the beach on a leash, with an owner and poop bag ,is part of that family. No question, no doubt, no debate. The owner will protect that dog to the same degree as a child.  The owner will expect the dog to behave like a member of the family. However, laws and rules are in place until we can get them changed and they should be complied with. It will take a very large march on city hall with all the dogs to get noticed.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 22:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Keytime</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are you implying white people are targeted and not welcomed in Zihuatanejo simply because they are white? Not good if true.</p>
<p>I don't want a dogfight. I have and have had many dog family members. </p>
<p>Rules are rules regardless if we agree with them.</p>
<p>Let's not sensationalize this event or imply racism for what appears a person who was forewarned of expectations and for whatever reason felt above these expectations. Hopefully he didn't feel this way simply for being white. </p>
<p>Shoot, haven't people been banned from this Forum for breaking the rules?</p>
<p>Again, I don't want a dogfight and I would also love to have my canine companion with me as I enjoy the beach. But I understand and reluctantly accept the rules.</p>
<p>Let's hope our 4 legged best friend is fine and their &quot;owner&quot; (ironic on Juneteeth) considers his best friend on future decisions.</p>
<p>People continue to be killed and kidnapped in the Zihuatanejo area. </p>
<p>Let's hope things get better in the area.</p>
<p>Life can be ruff.</p>
</blockquote><p>The perceived &quot;racism&quot; is against anyone that looks like a Gringo. It isn't about skin color.</p>
<p>Pets are family members, and discrimination against them is discrimination against all families with furry family members who visit or live here. The local government imposed this rule against the will of the community, including the owners and operators of beachfront lodgings and restaurants. We held a vote, and after telling us they would respect our vote, the municipal government betrayed us and tried to bullsh¡t the public with media campaigns. This Blue Flag policy has lost us residents and visitors, yet no one has been able to prove that we've received one single additional visitor because of it, even less enough people to justify the loss of tourists and residents and the public expense, since as usual, taxpayers foot the bill for the bad ideas of politicians.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered about the “racism” aspect as well.</p>
<p>I have a Scandinavian parent and a Celtic parent, but surprisingly I tan like nobody’s business.  One time I was flew into LAX and the immigration officer gave me a bad time. They said, “You look Mexican to me.”  I thought they had no idea how ignorant that was. </p>
<p>My experience has been that Mexicans’ “race” spans from the whiter-than-white to the blacker-than-black. There is a woman at the Cafe de Atoyac coffee vendor who looks like she would fit in selling coffee in Dublin.</p>
<p>Similarly, extranjeros, including those from the USA and from Canada \, come in all shades of all races. I wonder whether what was meant was xenophobia, a form of prejudice characterized by the dislike, fear, or hatred of people perceived as outsiders or foreigners.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 03:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Little Guy</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn. Much respect to this gentleman for standing up to the man for something many believe in. The lying about assaulting the cops is so typical of Mexican LE and does not by any means pertain to only southern Mexico or impoverished areas. I've been on the receiving end of their bullshit and 'ATTEMPTED&quot; shake down a few times. Abducting the dog is <em><strong>another</strong></em> new low.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 01:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>D-Loco</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you implying white people are targeted and not welcomed in Zihuatanejo simply because they are white? Not good if true.</p>
<p>I don't want a dogfight. I have and have had many dog family members. </p>
<p>Rules are rules regardless if we agree with them.</p>
<p>Let's not sensationalize this event or imply racism for what appears a person who was forewarned of expectations and for whatever reason felt above these expectations. Hopefully he didn't feel this way simply for being white. </p>
<p>Shoot, haven't people been banned from this Forum for breaking the rules?</p>
<p>Again, I don't want a dogfight and I would also love to have my canine companion with me as I enjoy the beach. But I understand and reluctantly accept the rules.</p>
<p>Let's hope our 4 legged best friend is fine and their &quot;owner&quot; (ironic on Juneteeth) considers his best friend on future decisions.</p>
<p>People continue to be killed and kidnapped in the Zihuatanejo area. </p>
<p>Let's hope things get better in the area.</p>
<p>Life can be ruff.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 01:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy that runs La Perla was the initiative along with Lisa the president of Zihua to forbid dogs on the beach with the excemptions of most other business on La Ropa. I used to go to La Perla but not since and never again</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 20:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>rojo</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has been known publicly as a dog hater for years.  However his younger brother Javier, who I think runs the bars, is very much a dog person.</p>
<p>We gave up La Perla as soon as we heard about Francisco's feelings about dogs.</p>
<p>We thought it was the ecologia employee, Maria Augustina who called the police.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 20:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Talley Ho</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw on one of the Facebook groups that it was the owner of La Perla that reported him to the police. Not that it will make a difference to his business, but I will keep this in mind when I chose businesses to patronize.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 19:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Timmac</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t know who is responsible for these strong arm tactics; but the a hole in the White House who encourages similar tactics in USA against brown people is who I blame the most</p>
</blockquote><p>The rise of authoritarian strongmen tactics is happening all over the globe. We have seen this movie before. It does not end well. Our near global future looks bleak. As one historian of the Pre-World War II era recently said bluntly, &quot;The lesson of the 1930's is to get out early.&quot;</p>
<p>Looking to buy in Zihuatanejo in the next year or so...</p>
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<dc:creator>Padrino</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, the  growing list of  cops  caught  on camera  abusing their  authority.<br />
2 minutes of total power in exchange for years of ridicule in cyberland.<br />
My favorite is Officer Joffrion telling Jeff Gray he can't hold a  sign saying &quot;God Bless the Homeless  Vets&quot; in Mississippi  because it's &quot;not a free will state.&quot; Echoes of Descartes, or  was it  William James, in reverse.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9CNnlcYLHg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9CNnlcYLHg</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m so sorry that this happened. The dog and owner are always so nice and conscientious about cleaning up and not bothering anyone. <br />
I don’t know who is responsible for these strong arm tactics; but the a hole in the White House who encourages similar tactics in USA against brown people is who I blame the most</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No pun intended:  Biting the hand that feeds you. Typical of lazy enforcement and chosen priorities. Sad.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good I wasn't there, with or without my dogs. I'd probably gone to jail, too. A new tactic for local gov. to increase their bank reserves. I feel sidewalks will be off limits next. Careful Rob.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching the video, I am appalled. Two heavily armed police to deal with someone walking a dog on leash? They should be working to prevent real crime. In our experience, there are always several dogs walking on the beach in the morning. I wonder why this particular dog and owner were singled out. We know the dog and owner involved, they pose no threat. The owner is assiduous in picking up waste when needed.</p>
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