I gotta say, thats the place i go to as well, I haven't had problems there, but i read the post and warned some friends yesterday, that were already there. it is certainly a reminder to check the bill closely, which i rarely do. thanks for the reminder.

Thanks for "getting it". That's the purpose of these posts.

Sorry, no ulterior motive here. As before, I simply went to your site to give it another try. I scrolled the names/titles of the messages and tapped on the one with a name in it that I was familiar with. As I read through the posts I was surprised by the comments about the service, etc. at Otilia's because I have never experienced it. Initial thoughts confirmed & lessons learned -- too much personal drama within this board for me. I am here to enjoy Zihua, the people and all that it has to offer. Thanks for allowing me to comment.

You'll have to excuse me if I simply don't believe your story, Mr. Insurance Salesman. Now it's already changed once.

But whatever. As I keep having to remind another frequent reader, it isn't about YOU. It's about the too-many-to-ignore complaints about being ripped off at this restaurant. Complaints that I simply don't hear about any of the other restaurants on that beach or any of the restaurants I personally recommend in my RESTAURANTS section.

As for your "thoughts confirmed" and whatever "lessons learned", apparently not. Saludos.

In addition tourists, there are other sources to get reviews (i.e. TripAdvisor, word if mouth, etc.). In the 15+ years that we have been coming to Zihua I have only visited this blog twice for the simple reason that it appears that in many cases there are ulterior motives by those that post here. This year, it seems to be no different.

Okay, now I have to call you out on that one. So apparently this isn't a spontaneous comment by you, you aren't a regular reader, and now you are suggesting I have "ulterior motives".

And suggesting folks go to a website that first copied my material then banned me for suggesting folks visit those same links TA copied from me, where their only interest is selling vacation packages, not providing honest truthful information, well you'll just have to excuse my disbelief at your sincerity.

I wonder who it might've been that told you to come post your plug for Otilia's here? Hmmm...

We go to see Franco all the time. Have taken many of our friends & everyone loves it & Franco keeps us all laughing! His only "mistakes" are, he usually forgets to put a dish or drink on our bill. Never been overcharged & the food is consistent! We don't go to any beaches over Xmas holidays.

I totally agree! Our family has been coming to Zihua for over 15 years and our first beach stop is always Otilia's. The staff is always welcoming and the food is excellent! We have never had an issue with the bill or service. Everyone has there own preferences on what they are looking for in a restaurant. Therefore, I would suggest that you try Otilia's and judge for yourself. If not satisfied, you do not have to go back! There are enough restaurants on Playa Las Gatas, Playa La Ropa, Playa Principal and downtown Zihua to please everyone!

In addition tourists, there are other sources to get reviews (i.e. TripAdvisor, word if mouth, etc.). In the 15+ years that we have been coming to Zihua I have only visited this blog twice for the simple reason that it appears that in many cases there are ulterior motives by those that post here. This year, it seems to be no different.

We go to see Franco all the time. Have taken many of our friends & everyone loves it & Franco keeps us all laughing! His only "mistakes" are, he usually forgets to put a dish or drink on our bill. Never been overcharged & the food is consistent! We don't go to any beaches over Xmas holidays.

I totally agree! Our family has been coming to Zihua for over 15 years and our first beach stop is always Otilia's. The staff is always welcoming and the food is excellent! We have never had an issue with the bill or service. Everyone has there own preferences on what they are looking for in a restaurant. Therefore, I would suggest that you try Otilia's and judge for yourself. If not satisfied, you do not have to go back! There are enough restaurants on Playa Las Gatas, Playa La Ropa, Playa Principal and downtown Zihua to please everyone!

Had you not mentioned me by name I would not have posted at all. There are many people who have had problems and many more who go there and disagree with you. Can people only have your opinion.

There are very few places I have ever gone for food over my 40+ years that have at one time or another not made an error on the bill. Both in favor of the restaurant or in my favor.

*sigh* It's not about YOU, Carol. It's about the tens of thousands of tourists and visitors and part-time residents who DON'T have a close relationship with the family who owns the restaurant.

As for making mistakes on bills, maybe you just look gullible, I don't know, but in my 40+ years and my wife's lifetime here we have very rarely encountered such problems as you claim, and certainly not repeatedly as has been mentioned here by dozens of people year after year regarding the restaurant in question.

"Double sigh" HAD YOU NOT MENTIONED ME BY NAME iT WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABOUT ME. I would NEVER HAVE POSTED.

Restaurants make mistakes all the time. Not just one or two.

As I understand it, the owners are aware of the problem, but because of local labor laws, it is impossible to correct it. It is apparently very difficult to fire a long term employee. I have no idea if this is actually the case.

We do hang out there and find the waiter involved quite entertaining, in a "flim flam man kind of way. This happened to us once in one of our first visits and was immediately corrected when we brought it to his attention. It has not happened since. Perhaps it was an honest mistake, but it seems to happen frequently enough that I am dubious. Although you should check your bill at any restaurant, you should't have too.

I appreciate the intricacies of our labor laws, amigo, but I'm just trying to do "my job". I refuse to accept any excuse for a persistent problem that has been reported here time after time for over a decade and a half or so. There are simply too many other options.

Had you not mentioned me by name I would not have posted at all. There are many people who have had problems and many more who go there and disagree with you. Can people only have your opinion.

There are very few places I have ever gone for food over my 40+ years that have at one time or another not made an error on the bill. Both in favor of the restaurant or in my favor.

*sigh* It's not about YOU, Carol. It's about the tens of thousands of tourists and visitors and part-time residents who DON'T have a close relationship with the family who owns the restaurant.

As for making mistakes on bills, maybe you just look gullible, I don't know, but in my 40+ years and my wife's lifetime here we have very rarely encountered such problems as you claim, and certainly not repeatedly as has been mentioned here by dozens of people year after year regarding the restaurant in question.

There are very few places I have ever gone for food over my 40+ years that have at one time or another not made an error on the bill. Both in favor of the restaurant or in my favor.

And as far as me telling anyone what you say, they can read English. I don't have to say anything.

We do hang out there and find the waiter involved quite entertaining, in a "flim flam man kind of way. This happened to us once in one of our first visits and was immediately corrected when we brought it to his attention. It has not happened since. Perhaps it was an honest mistake, but it seems to happen frequently enough that I am dubious. Although you should check your bill at any restaurant, you should't have too.