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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure FIA covers this kind of situation.  When I got my letter from TSA with the redress number, it said they do not release the content of their findings.  Or lack of findings.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have Global Entry which meant I passed that  background check.  It never made any sense to me.  But I am convinced whatever the circumstances, random selection was not the explanation.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thank you, Carol.  But it took me five tries before I got it right.  Bit of a learning curve, I'd say.</p>
</blockquote><p>If that had happened to me I'd probably still be in jail. No way would I have put up with that disgraceful humiliation. </p>
<p>Want to make &quot;Amerika&quot; great again? Stop letting the terrorists and the spineless politicians who enable them change your way of life! U.S. citizens used to be made of better stuff.</p>
<p>I wonder who put you on a watch list? The Freedom of Information Act is your friend. <img src="images/smilies/devil.gif" alt=":devil:" title="devilish" /></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Carol.  But it took me five tries before I got it right.  Bit of a learning curve, I'd say.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just a question, Has anyone ever gotten the SSSS on a boarding pass printed out at home? </p>
</blockquote><p>Our daughter did, just after 9-11-2001. She was in Michigan visiting us on 9-11 and was scheduled to return to AZ the next day. Since flights had been grounded, she couldn't get out until the 14th and apparently because she had been rescheduled she had a red folder-wielding pre-TSA friend waiting for her and she got the treatment that Curly described. For at least three years thereafter she always got pulled aside for closer scrutiny whenever.wherever she flew.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 14:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people are just not nearly as quick and smart as you Fran. Nor as tolerant. That is why you are my female hero.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 05:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much as I love and admire Americans (most of them,anyway) when I read stuff like this I am forever grateful that I do not live in your country.  We have found a way to travel to our beloved Zihua without touching down in the US, and ever since then, our traveling lives have been much less stressful and a lot more enjoyable!</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 03:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a question, Has anyone ever gotten the SSSS on a boarding pass printed out at home? We always print out our boarding passes the night before a flight and as far as I know have never gotten the dreaded SSSS, at least we have never had a problem except for the &quot;Red Light&quot; in ZIH.</p>
<p>We are both in Global Entry but from what I read that's no guarantee of clear sailing.</p>
<p>Never mind, I just read that anyone on the SSSS list cannot print their boarding passes at home or use a kiosk to check in, they must go to a check in counter.</p>
<p>Guess we're not on the list.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 22:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Dave&amp;Betty</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found it disconcerting that for some reason, impossible  for me to fathom, I was on someone's list.  And I will never know why or what list.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 22:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&quot;As much as I can understand the inconvenience of being searched, I don't get your uproar about it.&quot;</p>
</blockquote><p>I don't care that you don't get it.  I care that in the eyes of the government, down here, the citizens are now to be considered the bad guys.  Guilty until proven innocent and all that.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Curly!</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Loreto.  I liked it but one has to go searching for Mexico.  We were staying in a gringo community called Loreto Bay, which is pretty much like staying in a Palm Springs gated community, only on the Sea of Cortez.  Nothing wrong with that and I enjoyed my time there.  A friend has a very nice house and has been after us to come down for years.  I finally gave in and am glad I did.  I'd go back (the sooner the better).  Free lodging is a very good thing, and my friends are superb hosts and revelers. </p>
<p>There are two missions close by.  The one in town was the first mission on Baja.  I believe they call it the Head and the Mother of the Baja missions.  The one up in the mountains is a great visit, and trip.  About an hour-thirty from Loreto Bay and you'd better have a 4WD vehicle.</p>
<p>I liked Loreto proper but there are many ex-pats around.  The people I was staying with tend to congregate in the places where the ex-pats congregate.  Again, nothing wrong with that, I just prefer a more down home kind of place, one where I can put my Spanglish to good use.</p>
<p>As I say, I had a great time (until LAX) and would/will return.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Curly!</dc:creator>
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<title>A different take- (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johhny Lunchbucket is solely responsible for his (or her) treatment of the people they come in contact with.  I don't always appreciate my job the way I should but I don't treat people like trash just because I am dissatisfied at the moment.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Curly!</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it was Alaska.  Pretty much the only game in town if you want to fly into Loreto.  They used to have a direct flight but that's gone now, they all go out of LA.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Curly!</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I can understand the inconvenience of being searched, I don't get your uproar about it. Aside random searches and quotas, yes you will be more at risk because of your age as guess what, many older folks are used as mules and it is a commonly known fact, especially coming back from Mexico and South/Central America. It used to be more of an issue with the 18-30 crowd but nowadays a lot of seniors are used to smuggle stuff into the US and Canada. I remember when working for the airlines making bets as to who would get searched and we were pretty accurate at it and this was many moons ago. Now terrorism as been added to the list of potential threats but often it is just the same old good reason you will get pulled. Get used to it!</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sympathize with your wife.  We go to Zihuatanejo twice a year.  Several years ago leaving Zihuatanejo, I was pulled aside for a secondary search.  I took it in stride.  The next time we came, same thing.  By then we recognized the SSSS in the corner where Pre-Check ought to be (we have Global Entry).  So I asked the ticket agent when I saw it.</p>
<p>Agent said it was random.  I pointed out it was twice in a row.  She said I would have to speak with the airline.  I did.  They said it wasn't them.  It was probably Zihuatanejo.</p>
<p>Third time (in a row), I  considered it NOT random and again asked why.  This time I was told I probably had the same name as someone on a Watch List.  I asked him to look at my name.  Anyone who knows my full name knows no one else in the entire universe has the same name as I do.</p>
<p>Let me point out that we are not brand loyal flyers.   This happened on United, American and Aeromexico.   And getting the dreaded SSSS in Zihuatanejo also means no Pre-Check on connecting flights.  Also, SSSS did not come up on any other domestic or trans Atlantic flights we took.</p>
<p>After, as I recall, the fifth time, I filed Redress application with TSA.  They investigated my request.   After a few weeks, I got a note back from TSA telling me they investigated.  They are not allowed to tell me what they found (or did not find) when they investigated.  But they gave me a Redress Number to use.  I used it the next time and didn't get pulled out.  I have not used it again.</p>
<p>What if anything my contact with TSA did to resolve whatever the issue was, I'll never know but it seems done.</p>
<p>As an aside.  On our last go-round with SSSS, my carry-on was a very fragile Katrina we bought in Calupa and I carried very carefully on the bus to Zihuatanejo.  The Katrina was wrapped in about two rolls of toilet paper and taped into a makeshift box.    I saw the SSSS andI was very upset about the prospect of having the whole thing unwrapped.  Then it occurred to us:  Just switch carry-ons.  So we did.  I took his carry-on, he took the Katrina and got on the plane.  My bag was on the plane.  His bag was searched.    So much for security.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 18:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curly - I'm so sorry you and your wife suffered such humiliation and embarrassment.  I, too, would have felt helpless.  But I'm the one who  would have been screaming and shouting while my husband cooled his heals.  He can be much more tolerant than I of stupidity.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>AngelaD</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mr. Olsen.  You seem to forget whose message board this is!  If you don't want to read Rob's Rant, then DON'T!!</p>
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<span style="font-size:large;"><em><strong>¡</strong></em></span><strong><img src="images/smilies/like.png" alt=":megusta:" title="Me gusta" /> </strong><span style="font-size:large;"><em><strong>!</strong></em></span></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>dhunsber</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's about when I figured it out, too, Rob.  Want to see how many Amerikans the actor killed?  Watch the movie, &quot;And the Band Played On!&quot;&quot;</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 03:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>connie</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even with a Nexus/Global entry I've had the SSSS three times in two years flying out of YVR on Alaska, though it's been a quick and courteous extra check. You really got them fired up...<img src="images/smilies/stirthepot.gif" alt=":stirpot:" title="stirring the pot" /></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 03:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Pelicano</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a trip report about Loreto?</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>K&amp;B</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the TSA agents at the gate are just poor SOBs trying to get a paycheck---let's all remember not to shoot the messenger and s**t rolls downhill (translation: it all starts at  the top in D.C and the blame for this lies there).</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Gringo Viejo</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read a few of your trip reports. Excellent. <br />
Not that it matters but were you on Alaska Airlines?</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Olsen.  You seem to forget whose message board this is!  If you don't want to read Rob's Rant, then DON'T!!</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Quadra Paul</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, seems its 55-to ? yrs old that they want to hassle,thank the lord were protected.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>cantinero46</dc:creator>
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Sorry to hear your wife got the special treatment. It's precisely that kind of humiliating treatment that will keep me from flying to the USA. You can have it. I enjoy my freedom and my dignity too much to put up with that silliness or to allow my loved ones to be treated as criminals and humiliated.</p>
</blockquote><p>Blah, blah Rob. Some of us have family in the states and fly back and forth. Some (the tourists you seem to want to read your board and come to Zihuatanejo don't need to read that crap from you because they will fly to and from) Get over yourself.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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