Testing at the Airport

by Keytime @, Friday, January 22, 2021, 10:28 (111 days ago)

https://despertardelacosta.net/oma-aeropuertos-contara-con-el-servicio-de-pruebas-covid-19/

IN todays online publication there is a report that Covid testing will be at the airports with short time results for the travelers.

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Testing at the Airport

by mosesk, Ojai, CA, USA, Friday, January 22, 2021, 10:34 (111 days ago) @ Keytime

https://despertardelacosta.net/oma-aeropuertos-contara-con-el-servicio-de-pruebas-covid-19/

IN todays online publication there is a report that Covid testing will be at the airports with short time results for the travelers.

WOW
Thank you.
One of the best posts I've seen on this site.
Note Zihuatanejo Airport is listed

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by Keytime @, Friday, January 22, 2021, 10:44 (111 days ago) @ mosesk

Everyone had to know this would happen as soon as the Government noticed how much money they had to potential to loose when the USA imposed negaitive test results prior to boarding flights bound for the USA. Now why this action was not taken sooner?

Below was Posted on the 16th expecting to see some form of testing provided.

A tourist will spend on the average $150 per day per person. Some way more, some way less. If two people visit for 14 days that is $4,200 spent on hotels, meals, taxis, misc..... $4,200 into the local economy and the local government gives back to them 2 $50.00 (Est) Covid tests so they can go home happy customers and want to return. Even if they reimburse a local lab to do the work so they get paid, everyone wins.

Having short time results provided at the airport is the best option for travelers. Now it will be interesting to see how the airport manages this task. Oh well my flight is not until early March so by then it should run like a well oiled machine.

DO NOT CANCEL YOUR RESERVATIONS EVERYONE!!!!! THE BEACH IS CALLING YOUR NAME

Testing at the Airport - Cost?

by tadpole1 @, Friday, January 22, 2021, 12:10 (111 days ago) @ Keytime

Has anyone seen whether there's going to be a charge for the test at the airport or recommendations on amount of time to get there prior to your departing flight?

Testing at the Airport - Cost?

by Casa Juan @, Friday, January 22, 2021, 12:37 (111 days ago) @ tadpole1

since the proposed testing will be open to the general public, one can assume there will be a cost. Hopefully that will be sorted out soon.

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by Keytime @, Friday, January 22, 2021, 12:42 (111 days ago) @ tadpole1

I would expect that information should be coming soon as the testing process is to be in place by the 26th. Maybe someone with closer connections to Aeropuerto operations may be able to help before the 26th?

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by Justin, Friday, January 22, 2021, 13:37 (110 days ago) @ Keytime

Everyone had to know this would happen as soon as the Government noticed how much money they had to potential to loose when the USA imposed negaitive test results prior to boarding flights bound for the USA. Now why this action was not taken sooner?

Below was Posted on the 16th expecting to see some form of testing provided.

A tourist will spend on the average $150 per day per person. Some way more, some way less. If two people visit for 14 days that is $4,200 spent on hotels, meals, taxis, misc..... $4,200 into the local economy and the local government gives back to them 2 $50.00 (Est) Covid tests so they can go home happy customers and want to return. Even if they reimburse a local lab to do the work so they get paid, everyone wins.

Having short time results provided at the airport is the best option for travelers. Now it will be interesting to see how the airport manages this task. Oh well my flight is not until early March so by then it should run like a well oiled machine.

DO NOT CANCEL YOUR RESERVATIONS EVERYONE!!!!! THE BEACH IS CALLING YOUR NAME

I am not saying what is best for everyone, lets get that clear and out of the way.

But I am not seeing how a test at the airport has anything to do with me gurgling and drowning in a third world country.

A test is not going to save me. I can get free tests all day long right where I am.

The test will only let me go home if I am Not Showing any symptoms, it does nothing for me if I get sick.

Last I heard there is a Canadian couple in the hospital in Zihu now, dying. Denied even an emergency evac back to Canada. A free test isn't gonna save them or anyone else who gets ill. Sadly, almost all of the comments on that post are deleted as they were along the lines of " You Broke The Rules, Now Pay The Price" even as the daughter was begging to help get her dying parents home.

Whatever happened to the common good, sacrificing and sheltering in place an following the rules. The countries that have done the best are those that had mandatory rules, not recommendations. People are selfish and skirt the recommendations.

That said, you are free, do as you wish, but don't expect a whole lot of sympathy if something goes wrong.

I wish you continued safety and health.

Testing at the Airport

by Keytime @, Friday, January 22, 2021, 13:58 (110 days ago) @ Justin

Justin your views of this situation are valid in my opinion. However based on reports that the media shares with us, there are a lot of people sick and dying that did not travel, did not get on an airplane, did not take the bus to work. They almost all got sick from a visit with friends and family. It was when they let their guard down because they knew someone but had not seen them for sometime. Spikes after Canada and USA Thanksgiving, Global Spikes after Christmas. What do these times have in common? Family Time.

No test is going to save you but what an airport test is doing is providing an AT THE MOMENT test that is current, not 72 hours old. We can only hope that the test results are accurate. Maybe every grocery store should have the same, the bank, the Schools? Would you have a problem taking the test before you went shopping? I know I would not. I think having a test every 48 hours for everyone is a good thing. Or maybe like these devises that people with insulin issues use that monitor you 24/7...

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by Justin, Friday, January 22, 2021, 14:12 (110 days ago) @ Keytime

Agree with everything you said.

And yes, I would have no problem with a test prior to going anywhere. Matter of fact, that could help us in some way get out of week 45 of Lockdown.

This whole experience is nothing short of orwelian or twilight zoneish.

If anyone had told me this was the future 2 years ago I would have thought they were just plain nuts, but here we are.

Stay Safe

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by nicatnit, Friday, January 22, 2021, 21:47 (110 days ago) @ Justin

Lockdown for 45 weeks. Are you out of your mind?

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Decency

by JeffMN ⌂ @, Minneapolis MN USA, Monday, January 25, 2021, 12:02 (108 days ago) @ Justin

Justin & Keytime -- Kudos to you both for a positive, civil exchange of views! Shouldn't be remarkable, but in this era of take-no-prisoners clashes, it is.

--
http://www.OneMansWonder.com

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Testing at the Airport

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, January 22, 2021, 17:30 (110 days ago) @ Justin

Everyone had to know this would happen as soon as the Government noticed how much money they had to potential to loose when the USA imposed negaitive test results prior to boarding flights bound for the USA. Now why this action was not taken sooner?

Below was Posted on the 16th expecting to see some form of testing provided.

A tourist will spend on the average $150 per day per person. Some way more, some way less. If two people visit for 14 days that is $4,200 spent on hotels, meals, taxis, misc..... $4,200 into the local economy and the local government gives back to them 2 $50.00 (Est) Covid tests so they can go home happy customers and want to return. Even if they reimburse a local lab to do the work so they get paid, everyone wins.

Having short time results provided at the airport is the best option for travelers. Now it will be interesting to see how the airport manages this task. Oh well my flight is not until early March so by then it should run like a well oiled machine.

DO NOT CANCEL YOUR RESERVATIONS EVERYONE!!!!! THE BEACH IS CALLING YOUR NAME


I am not saying what is best for everyone, lets get that clear and out of the way.

But I am not seeing how a test at the airport has anything to do with me gurgling and drowning in a third world country.

A test is not going to save me. I can get free tests all day long right where I am.

The test will only let me go home if I am Not Showing any symptoms, it does nothing for me if I get sick.

Last I heard there is a Canadian couple in the hospital in Zihu now, dying. Denied even an emergency evac back to Canada. A free test isn't gonna save them or anyone else who gets ill. Sadly, almost all of the comments on that post are deleted as they were along the lines of " You Broke The Rules, Now Pay The Price" even as the daughter was begging to help get her dying parents home.

Whatever happened to the common good, sacrificing and sheltering in place an following the rules. The countries that have done the best are those that had mandatory rules, not recommendations. People are selfish and skirt the recommendations.

That said, you are free, do as you wish, but don't expect a whole lot of sympathy if something goes wrong.

I wish you continued safety and health.

No, I deleted nothing in that conversation, though I'm not surprised you'd make the accusation erroneously. Perhaps you're confusing this very open forum with one less so?

As to your other comments, screening international passengers for a virus responsible for a worldwide pandemia helps contain the pandemia, though it may not bring you any personal benefit other than letting you know you shouldn't be out'n'about.

The countries that have done the best have populations less than Ciudad de México. Mexico has many other challenging characteristics for controlling a pandemia that none of those countries have.

Testing at the Airport

by Justin, Friday, January 22, 2021, 17:57 (110 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Everyone had to know this would happen as soon as the Government noticed how much money they had to potential to loose when the USA imposed negaitive test results prior to boarding flights bound for the USA. Now why this action was not taken sooner?

Below was Posted on the 16th expecting to see some form of testing provided.

A tourist will spend on the average $150 per day per person. Some way more, some way less. If two people visit for 14 days that is $4,200 spent on hotels, meals, taxis, misc..... $4,200 into the local economy and the local government gives back to them 2 $50.00 (Est) Covid tests so they can go home happy customers and want to return. Even if they reimburse a local lab to do the work so they get paid, everyone wins.

Having short time results provided at the airport is the best option for travelers. Now it will be interesting to see how the airport manages this task. Oh well my flight is not until early March so by then it should run like a well oiled machine.

DO NOT CANCEL YOUR RESERVATIONS EVERYONE!!!!! THE BEACH IS CALLING YOUR NAME


I am not saying what is best for everyone, lets get that clear and out of the way.

But I am not seeing how a test at the airport has anything to do with me gurgling and drowning in a third world country.

A test is not going to save me. I can get free tests all day long right where I am.

The test will only let me go home if I am Not Showing any symptoms, it does nothing for me if I get sick.

Last I heard there is a Canadian couple in the hospital in Zihu now, dying. Denied even an emergency evac back to Canada. A free test isn't gonna save them or anyone else who gets ill. Sadly, almost all of the comments on that post are deleted as they were along the lines of " You Broke The Rules, Now Pay The Price" even as the daughter was begging to help get her dying parents home.

Whatever happened to the common good, sacrificing and sheltering in place an following the rules. The countries that have done the best are those that had mandatory rules, not recommendations. People are selfish and skirt the recommendations.

That said, you are free, do as you wish, but don't expect a whole lot of sympathy if something goes wrong.

I wish you continued safety and health.


No, I deleted nothing in that conversation, though I'm not surprised you'd make the accusation erroneously. Perhaps you're confusing this very open forum with one less so?

As to your other comments, screening international passengers for a virus responsible for a worldwide pandemia helps contain the pandemia, though it may not bring you any personal benefit other than letting you know you shouldn't be out'n'about.

The countries that have done the best have populations less than Ciudad de México. Mexico has many other challenging characteristics for controlling a pandemia that none of those countries have.

Rob,

The deleted Messages I was referring to were on TA website. I made no accusation torwards you or this board.

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Testing at the Airport

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, January 22, 2021, 19:24 (110 days ago) @ Justin

I am not saying what is best for everyone, lets get that clear and out of the way.

But I am not seeing how a test at the airport has anything to do with me gurgling and drowning in a third world country.

A test is not going to save me. I can get free tests all day long right where I am.

The test will only let me go home if I am Not Showing any symptoms, it does nothing for me if I get sick.

Last I heard there is a Canadian couple in the hospital in Zihu now, dying. Denied even an emergency evac back to Canada. A free test isn't gonna save them or anyone else who gets ill. Sadly, almost all of the comments on that post are deleted as they were along the lines of " You Broke The Rules, Now Pay The Price" even as the daughter was begging to help get her dying parents home.

Whatever happened to the common good, sacrificing and sheltering in place an following the rules. The countries that have done the best are those that had mandatory rules, not recommendations. People are selfish and skirt the recommendations.

That said, you are free, do as you wish, but don't expect a whole lot of sympathy if something goes wrong.

I wish you continued safety and health.


No, I deleted nothing in that conversation, though I'm not surprised you'd make the accusation erroneously. Perhaps you're confusing this very open forum with one less so?

As to your other comments, screening international passengers for a virus responsible for a worldwide pandemia helps contain the pandemia, though it may not bring you any personal benefit other than letting you know you shouldn't be out'n'about.

The countries that have done the best have populations less than Ciudad de México. Mexico has many other challenging characteristics for controlling a pandemia that none of those countries have.


Rob,

The deleted Messages I was referring to were on TA website. I made no accusation torwards you or this board.

My bad. It wasn't clear from your comments. I thought you were referring to the conversation here about the Troncones couple, somewhere near the bottom of the main page at the moment. I offer you a sincere apology, and I'll even blow you a kiss. :blush:

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WAIT!!!!!

by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Friday, January 22, 2021, 20:35 (110 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

What about kisses for us????

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KISS KISS

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, January 23, 2021, 11:05 (110 days ago) @ Talley Ho

What about kisses for us????

Mmmmm. With unrestrained PLEASURE!

Pucker up, buttercups! :stones:

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KISS KISS

by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Saturday, January 23, 2021, 12:34 (110 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

:megusta:

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by Nancy in SGF, Friday, January 22, 2021, 17:56 (110 days ago) @ Justin

WTF? I don’t know where to begin, so I’ll start with “third world?” Been a while since I heard any educated person use that phrase, let alone in describing Mexico. Ah, I see the problem.. Nevermind.

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by nicatnit, Friday, January 22, 2021, 21:44 (110 days ago) @ Justin

The testing is for the benefit of fellow travelers so you don’t anyone else sick.

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by Justin, Saturday, January 23, 2021, 22:12 (109 days ago) @ nicatnit

The testing is for the benefit of fellow travelers so you don’t anyone else sick.

It does no such thing, there are several Doctors on this board,lets see if one will confirm your post.

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Testing at the Airport

by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Sunday, January 24, 2021, 00:57 (109 days ago) @ Justin

In my opinion, testing may provide minimal extra protection from spread. You can actually be infected with Covid and potentially transmit it a couple of days before the test turns positive. So while it will prevent some folks from flying, it reduces, but does not eliminate the risk. It is probably better than taking temperatures, as many never run temps with Covid. While compulsive cleaning of surfaces can’t hurt, most feel that transmission from contact with a surface is extremely rare. Masks, social distancing, limited travel, no group activities, and hand washing are all simple and stand the best chance of limiting transmission.
We cancelled our February trip, received our first dose of the Moderna vaccine on Friday. Assuming things stabilize a bit down there we will be down in mid March. At that point it is unlikely we could become infected, and although it hasn’t been proven yet, it seems unlikely we could transmit an infection. At the same time though, if things are back to the red stage, we probably won’t go as so many things would be limited it wouldn’t be much of a vacation.

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by Justin, Sunday, January 24, 2021, 13:15 (109 days ago) @ Timmac

Ty for the response . I’m following the doctor orders .

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by Quadra Paul @, Sunday, January 24, 2021, 18:08 (108 days ago) @ Justin

Good Idea! Do you think you could convince all those unbelievers in the US to do the same?

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Nope ... it won't happen here

by Sandy feet @, Seattle, Sunday, January 24, 2021, 23:38 (108 days ago) @ Quadra Paul
edited by Sandy feet, Sunday, January 24, 2021, 23:44

I've been working as an essential worker long before this started. Every shift I have customers refusing to wear a mask. I even had one ass hat
try to spit on me.
I fight the urge (need that paycheck), to grab the intercom and tell them what I really think of their selfish ways, to F' off and walk out the door.
Sure hope I can be back in Zihuatanejo in 2022. I'll definitely be needing a break! :vivamexico: :brilliant:

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Monday, January 25, 2021, 03:03 (108 days ago) @ Timmac

Finally something here that is like what scientists and doctors are saying almost everywhere! This false sense of safety from a test and/or taking temps is making too many people think it will be fine to travel since they did this. Until enough people get vaccinated, it is not safe to travel. Period! And with the numbers booming in Mexico and even their president now sick, it certainly is not reassuring. Hopefully by the fall things will be much better.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, January 25, 2021, 09:00 (108 days ago) @ cd69

Finally something here that is like what scientists and doctors are saying almost everywhere! This false sense of safety from a test and/or taking temps is making too many people think it will be fine to travel since they did this. Until enough people get vaccinated, it is not safe to travel. Period! And with the numbers booming in Mexico and even their president now sick, it certainly is not reassuring. Hopefully by the fall things will be much better.

I must've missed where Dr. Tim said it is not safe to travel. But thank you once again for discouraging travelers to the place where my neighbors and my family make a living from tourism and where if tourists don't come our businesses close and we all starve. Maybe someday I can return the favor. :devil:

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by catlover, Monday, January 25, 2021, 09:05 (108 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

:megusta:

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, January 25, 2021, 10:53 (108 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Sorry, but right now it is not safe to travel. That has even included not visiting my grandson who lives 30 miles from me. And also includes two trips to New York, and trips to Boston, Europe, St. Louis and Hawaii. Both my wife and I have received our first dose of Moderna vaccine and will be theoretically immune around March 5. We will return soon after that having canceled our February reservations as by that time we will be safe and though it has yet to be proven, extremely unlikely to bring it with us. Any travel, foreign or domestic, right now risks increasing the spread. The two new strains did not magically appear in the states. They were brought here, most likely by someone who was asymptomatic. People’s insistence against following the suggestions of experts is the main reason this continues to be out of control and is serving to prolong the worldwide agony.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, January 25, 2021, 11:36 (108 days ago) @ Timmac

Sorry, but right now it is not safe to travel. That has even included not visiting my grandson who lives 30 miles from me. And also includes two trips to New York, and trips to Boston, Europe, St. Louis and Hawaii. Both my wife and I have received our first dose of Moderna vaccine and will be theoretically immune around March 5. We will return soon after that having canceled our February reservations as by that time we will be safe and though it has yet to be proven, extremely unlikely to bring it with us. Any travel, foreign or domestic, right now risks increasing the spread. The two new strains did not magically appear in the states. They were brought here, most likely by someone who was asymptomatic. People’s insistence against following the suggestions of experts is the main reason this continues to be out of control and is serving to prolong the worldwide agony.

Well, gee, thanks for that nail in our coffin. Guess I'll just close down the forum and go look for a new job. My response to CD69 was in jest, but now I'm not kidding. Happy for all you folks who don't have to live from international tourism in your communities.

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by Quadra Paul @, Monday, January 25, 2021, 12:19 (108 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

You trying to make us feel bad about doing what is wise and prudent? It's not as if we don't want to come! It can't end soon enough for me. Bring on the Jab!

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by catlover, Monday, January 25, 2021, 12:23 (108 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Here's my analogy. You live in a city area that is unsafe regarding violence and decide to safe harbor out into the countryside. Or in the case of the virus, In our case we live in the US and with regard to the virus we have decide to spend a month in Ixtapa/Zihua (our safe harbor) where the safety precautions are 100% better than what we left behind back in the states. I pity those who chose not to come, but repect their decision

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by kjgco @, Colorado, Monday, January 25, 2021, 12:32 (108 days ago) @ catlover

Here's my analogy. You live in a city area that is unsafe regarding violence and decide to safe harbor out into the countryside. Or in the case of the virus, In our case we live in the US and with regard to the virus we have decide to spend a month in Ixtapa/Zihua (our safe harbor) where the safety precautions are 100% better than what we left behind back in the states. I pity those who chose not to come, but repect their decision

100% better safety precautions? In our case, hardly, particularly when considering ALL of the complications of travel in the current environment.

Your pity is not really necessary.

I do appreciate the comment about respecting individuals' decisions. We could use a lot more of that!

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, January 25, 2021, 13:14 (108 days ago) @ catlover

The flaw in your reasoning is that you could be an asymptomatic carrier and bring it with you. Asymptomatic carriers are the primary cause of the spread.

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by catlover, Monday, January 25, 2021, 13:50 (107 days ago) @ Timmac

And the sky keeps on falling.

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, January 25, 2021, 14:23 (107 days ago) @ catlover

And the sky keeps on falling.

About 100 million worldwide cases and a bit over 2 million worldwide deaths, the sky has been falling for quite a while. The problem is those who deny it in spite of all of the evidence to the contrary.

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by Sandy feet @, Seattle, Monday, January 25, 2021, 14:25 (107 days ago) @ Timmac

Exactly! Some just don't get it. :grrr:

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Monday, January 25, 2021, 16:53 (107 days ago) @ Timmac

Sadly this is the issue with many asymptomatic people that refuse to take precautions. This virus is not spreading on it's own. But for many, it is still the old, me myself and I. But it is only a question of time before airports will be shut down in the US and Canada for leisure with severe restrictions so people that choose to ignore the requests to stay home will pay the price.

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by catlover, Monday, January 25, 2021, 18:34 (107 days ago) @ cd69

Oh I'm taking precautions, but I choose to die living and I respect your choice.

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by jay @, Monday, January 25, 2021, 22:50 (107 days ago) @ catlover

And if you inadvertently infect someone else while you're busy living, then you'll be willing to pay all their medical and living expenses while they're laid up. Because that's what personal responsibility is all about. Right?

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by qwerty @, Oregon, USA, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 00:18 (107 days ago) @ jay

Unless you are having NO CONTACT with any other human beings, you are potentially infecting someone else regardless of where you are. I do venture into the "marketplace" as necessary, take the precautions I can, but realize that just being alive in these times is risky. Anxiously awaiting my turn for the vaccine, but my governor has decided to prioritize teachers over seniors, leaving us (seniors) at increased risk by opening schools before we've had the opportunity to develop immunity via the vaccine. Children may not be at serious risk themselves, but can spread to those who are more vulnerable.

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by catlover, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 07:33 (107 days ago) @ jay

If, if, if. Stay home and we won't cross paths. But if you should venture out, look for me. I'll be the one wearing the mask.

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by Mexalberta @, Monday, January 25, 2021, 15:18 (107 days ago) @ catlover

And the sky keeps on falling.

Changing your name didn't change anything else
Check out Bill Engvall Here's Your Sign

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by Justin, Monday, January 25, 2021, 14:28 (107 days ago) @ catlover

Here's my analogy. You live in a city area that is unsafe regarding violence and decide to safe harbor out into the countryside. Or in the case of the virus, In our case we live in the US and with regard to the virus we have decide to spend a month in Ixtapa/Zihua (our safe harbor) where the safety precautions are 100% better than what we left behind back in the states. I pity those who chose not to come, but repect their decision

Your analogy isn’t much different than people gurgling on ventilators denying covid.

Stay safe !

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by Mexalberta @, Monday, January 25, 2021, 14:34 (107 days ago) @ Justin

Sounds as if Canada will implement a gurgling prevention program any day.
Ban all flights.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Monday, January 25, 2021, 16:55 (107 days ago) @ Justin

:megusta:

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, January 25, 2021, 18:56 (107 days ago) @ catlover

Here's my analogy. You live in a city area that is unsafe regarding violence and decide to safe harbor out into the countryside. Or in the case of the virus, In our case we live in the US and with regard to the virus we have decide to spend a month in Ixtapa/Zihua (our safe harbor) where the safety precautions are 100% better than what we left behind back in the states. I pity those who chose not to come, but repect their decision

Agree 1000%!

He look, this "UNITY" thing is working! Shall we sing Cumbayá and eat some burned marshmellows later?
:fishing:

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by catlover, Monday, January 25, 2021, 21:25 (107 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

As Nike once said, "just do it"!

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, January 25, 2021, 13:13 (108 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

So your solution is to open things up and prolong the misery? Had everyone been compliant worldwide when this started it would not have gotten this bad. In Wash, where this was first found a year ago, we now have three known cases of the more aggressive form from the UK. The folks at UW, who have been spot on with their predictions, feel that it will be the most prevalent form by March. This did not arise de nova in Washington, it was brought here by someone traveling from the UK. We will be back around six weeks from now, once it is safe for us and you.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Monday, January 25, 2021, 16:56 (107 days ago) @ Timmac

:megusta:

S. African strain

by FrozenNoMás @, Monday, January 25, 2021, 11:45 (108 days ago) @ Timmac

We are so anxious to return following vaccination as well. Not sure we’ve missed a year in, what, the last twenty?

What are your thoughts on the current Moderna vaccine keeping one “safe” from the S. African strain? Do you believe the chances of encountering that strain will be negligible?

“Moderna reported a sixfold decrease in the antibodies’ ability to block the South African variant—which was still above the threshold for efficacy, but was concerning, the company said.”

https://observer.com/2021/01/moderna-vaccine-south-african-strain/

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S. African strain

by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Monday, January 25, 2021, 13:17 (108 days ago) @ FrozenNoMás

It’s really to early to tell for sure about either of the new strains. It is likely there would at least be partial,protection. That said, Moderna is working in modifying their existing vaccine to include the new strains.

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by nicatnit, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 04:22 (107 days ago) @ Timmac

Just a question about the vaccine? Since vaccines are not 100% effective and also have effectiveness that decreases over time can we assume that once the people are vaccinated are really safe to venture out. And what if the people who refuse vaccinations? Does this mean we should never travel again or live our lives as we did before. The Covid Vaccine is being held up as the ultimate solution to the problem, but I’m confused by the above mentioned limitations.

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by mindpilot, la Playa Buenavista, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 07:29 (107 days ago) @ nicatnit

Just a question about the vaccine? Since vaccines are not 100% effective and also have effectiveness that decreases over time can we assume that once the people are vaccinated are really safe to venture out. And what if the people who refuse vaccinations? Does this mean we should never travel again or live our lives as we did before. The Covid Vaccine is being held up as the ultimate solution to the problem, but I’m confused by the above mentioned limitations.

Immunity whether from a vaccine or natural, only keeps you from getting sick. You can still spread a disease so we will need to maintain masking and distancing protocols at least until everyone is vaccinated. Or until this thing--hopefully--mutates into something less harmful. (Although it sure looks like it's heading in the opposite direction right now.)

Covid has starkly revealed how woefully unprepared governments--large and small--are to deal with a crisis that immobilizes large swaths of the population and disrupts commerce. I seriously hope that world leaders learn from this because it is just a small taste of what we will have to deal with when climate change starts to hit hard.

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by ZihuaRx @, Friday, January 29, 2021, 06:40 (104 days ago) @ mindpilot

Greta and Al say we now have less than 12 years.

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by Quadra Paul @, Sunday, January 31, 2021, 18:49 (101 days ago) @ mindpilot

Could you please explain your comment about the connection between the virus and climate change? To my mind, that is a big stretch!

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by Nancy in SGF, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 07:29 (107 days ago) @ Timmac

Is it the plane that you think is unsafe? What science backs you up? Because there is no doubt in my mind that In the Zihua area the people are far better at obeying Covid rules than they are here in the United States. Where I live, I constantly see people going unmasked, doing indoor dining, having meetings unmasked, etc. I fail to understand why transplanting myself to Zihua is less safe than staying here.

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by catlover, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 07:42 (107 days ago) @ Nancy in SGF

I 100% agree. And unlike most of the naysayers posting, I'm here now and have been for weeks.

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by Sandy feet @, Seattle, Monday, January 25, 2021, 11:50 (108 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We are all experiencing cabin fever and miss our favorite slice of paradise like crazy. Personally, I can not justify potentially carrying a virus down to the sweet, hard working people I have the pleasure spending time with while in Zihuatanejo. Not to mention many live in multi-generational homes.

Yes, Zihuatanejo depends on tourism so perhaps more of us could send some of what we would have spent to the families we have the honor of knowing.

Hopefully Zihuatanejo will receive government tourism funds to better promote the area once travel restrictions and the virus is under control.

I miss Zihuatanejo more than I can say. :-(

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, January 25, 2021, 19:10 (107 days ago) @ Sandy feet

Hopefully Zihuatanejo will receive government tourism funds to better promote the area once travel restrictions and the virus is under control.

I think I hurt myself laughing. 'Pérame un minuto...

Jeeeeeez. Well, the national government can't promote local destinations, and our local destination hasn't promoted itself since the 90's except to tour bus companies (gotta look busy, right? when in doubt simulate). Any money the government "finds" is spent on crap we don't need like a CONCRETE GARDEN so that pockets can be lined and political favors paid. The Ixtapa hotels are already so cheap all the shops and restaurants in the centros comerciales are going broke and closing, and some more influyentes want to add another 1000+ All-Included hotel rooms to the pot which will cheapen the destination even more and possibly cost us more jobs in the long run than they will produce, besides privatizing and ruining Playa Manzanillo. Once a destination kills its golden goose, that's it. Its "golden age" doesn't come back. And we've been on the verge of that for a while, which is what motivates me to work as hard as (I think) I do. ;-)

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by Sandy feet @, Seattle, Monday, January 25, 2021, 19:37 (107 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I get all that and dislike the changes I've seen over the last 20 years as much as you do.

"Hopefully" was a shout out to local marketing companies that could be doing a better job at promoting Zihuatanejo.
You are doing what you can but more help has been needed for a long time now.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Monday, January 25, 2021, 21:39 (107 days ago) @ Sandy feet

I get all that and dislike the changes I've seen over the last 20 years as much as you do.

"Hopefully" was a shout out to local marketing companies that could be doing a better job at promoting Zihuatanejo.
You are doing what you can but more help has been needed for a long time now.

You promote Zihuatanejo better than our government does! I appreciate all you've done and keep doing, and I can see the positive results you've had. We need more folks like you and the VERY FEW of us who are giving it what we can. The bloodsuckers are a different story. ;-)

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Rob we understand the hardship

by Sandy feet @, Seattle, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 10:24 (107 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thanks and have a great day, Rob. So sorry about the palm trees being cut down.:rant:

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Monday, January 25, 2021, 16:48 (107 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I am just keeping it real Rob. After all you would not want this site to be full of disinformation. I understand you want to have tourism resume asap but you must know in your heart this is not the time to travel and as much as your economy need tourists, your neighbours and friends need to stay alive more than our visits. Many of us are helping as we can with different campaigns in Mexico/Zihua but the reality is until vaccines are finally distributed throughout the country, things are going to get worst. I posted scary stats in another post. Mexico is sitting at about 150K deaths versus 154K for India and India has 10 times your population more or less so yes, covid has not been handled properly and your adopted country is suffering big time. But for us tourists to come to Zihua at this time because we are getting tired of our lockdowns and our situation at home would be irresponsible for most and a disservice to Zihua.

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by Lalo @, Monday, January 25, 2021, 17:39 (107 days ago) @ cd69

Well said Christian! I wouldn't consider infecting my friends and hosts by travelling at this time.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Monday, January 25, 2021, 18:14 (107 days ago) @ Lalo

Thank you! I feel the same!

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by Nancy in SGF, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 07:20 (107 days ago) @ cd69

Why the general statement that travel isn’t safe? What I think is not safe is indoor dining. What I think is not safe is working out at gym without a mask on. What I think is not safe is going to the grocery store and having to be standing next to somebody unmasked. When I fly, I wear a well filtered mask that I seal to my face with double-sided tape. I do not eat or drink on the plane except to put a straw underneath my mask at the bottom into a bottle of water. I sanitize all the surfaces and seatbelt on the plane. I do not ever dine indoors. I do not go around other people without a mask on. If I’m around others who are unmasked, I quickly walk away. I completely disagree with the statement traveling is not safe. The biggest risk of traveling is if you contract the virus, you would be treated away from home. I don’t know whether that medical treatment would be better or worse. This is a personal decision for everyone. And I don’t blame or fault people for making the decision to not travel. However, I think statements that travel is not safe is not helpful and not true. We are coming in a few weeks and I can’t wait. I understand it will be very different, we will wear masks when around others outside and when indoors always. And the testing requirement will make things more complicated. But frankly, those are simply additional hassles but not barriers.

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by catlover, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 07:38 (107 days ago) @ Nancy in SGF

Nancy, you need to understand. "Misery loves company". If I decide not to travel, well then you shouldn't either.

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by Nancy in SGF, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 07:43 (107 days ago) @ catlover

Ah. Now I get it.

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by mindpilot, la Playa Buenavista, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 07:48 (107 days ago) @ catlover

Nancy, you need to understand. "Misery loves company". If I decide not to travel, well then you shouldn't either.

I'm a little envious of those of you who have the option to not travel. My wife and I have to return to the states this Friday because our FMM expires, then we have to return in a couple weeks since we own a house here and we are paying people to take care of it while we are gone.

We haven't been able to make it to the consulate to apply for residency because COVID.

On the plus side since we use CBX in San Diego, that's considered a land crossing so no test is required.

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by catlover, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 08:08 (107 days ago) @ mindpilot

I wish you guys safe travels.

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by mindpilot, la Playa Buenavista, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 10:26 (107 days ago) @ catlover

I wish you guys safe travels.

muchas gracias

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by golden boy @, Winnipeg, Friday, January 22, 2021, 22:23 (110 days ago) @ Justin

What if my wife and I are at the Airport and she fails the test. I am not going to leave her there alone. Will the Mexican government quarantine her/us?
We wont be able to go back to the Resort. Will anyone give us a room?

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by D-Loco, Friday, January 22, 2021, 23:18 (110 days ago) @ golden boy

What if my wife and I are at the Airport and she fails the test. I am not going to leave her there alone. Will the Mexican government quarantine her/us?
We wont be able to go back to the Resort. Will anyone give us a room?

There are many scenarios that could play out like that. It appears by posts on Reddit and other travel boards quite a few international US travelers are cancelling because of anxiety what they would do if they would test positive and similar concerns of yours. I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder if this mandate is meant to reduce the air travel beyond borders.

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by Mexalberta @, Saturday, January 23, 2021, 15:44 (109 days ago) @ Justin

Thank you for posting something related to travel.

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by Keytime @, Saturday, January 23, 2021, 18:22 (109 days ago) @ Mexalberta

:megusta: Hope we hear some reports on how the Airport testing works out for travelers.

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by catlover, Monday, January 25, 2021, 07:20 (108 days ago) @ Keytime

Just a thought. Do wait until you get to the airport to tested or do you get your test days before? If you get the news that you tested positive and must remain here for a minimum of 10 days and then require a negative test to depart, do you want that news while you still have room accommodations or do you first want it when you're all checked out and standing at the the airport with all your sh*t packed?

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by mindpilot, la Playa Buenavista, Monday, January 25, 2021, 07:27 (108 days ago) @ catlover

Just a thought. Do wait until you get to the airport to tested or do you get your test days before? If you get the news that you tested positive and must remain here for a minimum of 10 days and then require a negative test to depart, do you want that news while you still have room accommodations or do you first want it when you're all checked out and standing at the the airport with all your sh*t packed?

Good point!
Logistics matter.

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by golden boy @, Winnipeg, Monday, January 25, 2021, 21:58 (107 days ago) @ catlover

Completely agree Catlover. Testing before hand gives you time to find accommodations and prepare to quarantine.

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by nicatnit, Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 04:30 (107 days ago) @ catlover

Wait until you get to the airport. It will be more exciting.