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by Rogerthat, Tuesday, March 07, 2023, 10:43 (89 days ago)

Iv’e noticed no reference to the guitar fest here. Is it because it politically resembles sail fest?
I broke down and went to Patty’s Miramar last eve. because I adore the local Jossy Gallegos. Venue was nice but dozens of 65 year old white women standing up in front of me taking photos with their phones. Food was marginal and next door a band played on at the same time as Jossy and Ali Tod. Like the writer Charles Bukowski said “I’m miserable when more than 3 people are around me”.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, March 07, 2023, 13:49 (88 days ago) @ Rogerthat

Iv’e noticed no reference to the guitar fest here. Is it because it politically resembles sail fest?
I broke down and went to Patty’s Miramar last eve. because I adore the local Jossy Gallegos. Venue was nice but dozens of 65 year old white women standing up in front of me taking photos with their phones. Food was marginal and next door a band played on at the same time as Jossy and Ali Tod. Like the writer Charles Bukowski said “I’m miserable when more than 3 people are around me”.

It certainly does look to the public like the government has taken over the GuitarFest, and they most definitely are using it for their own political benefit. Every reference to the event in the local news includes smiling politicians, same as the Sailfest did. Not sure why no one has referenced it here.

There was an interesting discussion on a popular morning radio talk show about how Zihuatanejo lost and continues losing its ecological zones on the hillsides surrounding the bay and what that has meant for our future. The part where foreigners are partially responsible was only mentioned in passing. Good thing, because that discussion could quickly turn ugly. Instead, the smiling politicians who pose with the foreigners in every photo op possible were the principal target of criticism.

Another part of the discussion was about how we keep losing public access to our beaches, and again, foreigners were mentioned but fortunately not dwelt upon.

Not sure why everyone feels the need to tear down our trees and build stuff here. Soon there won't be any trees or birds or wildlife left at the rate we're going. Then those folks who built something here will just sell and move on to repeat the process somewhere else. I know what it's like to have your community taken over by condo commandos and strip mall joints, when the roads become too congested and the services stop working, and the attraction that used to bring so many visitors stops being attractive and the tourists look for the next big vacation discovery to converge on, and the process repeats itself.

Of course, if the USA gets in another war soon then locals will quickly get another dose of just how fickle the tourism industry is and how absolutely irresponsible it is of our government to bet 100% on tourism for our livelihood and have nothing else to back up our economy. I watched communities where I lived in Florida discover this the hard way and make the necessary adjustments to cultivate alternative industries in their local economies so folks wouldn't starve when the tourists decided not to come for whatever reason. Gee, that was over 50 years ago. I wonder how long it will take the Zihuatanejo community to "get it". Some already do, but most folks here remain starstruck by tourism, like deer staring innocently at oncoming headlights.

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by Casa Juan @, Tuesday, March 07, 2023, 16:17 (88 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Tourism is what makes Zihua go round now and I suspect it pays for much of this website, which without advertising tourism could not long exist. It is a tough dilemma how to pay the expenses of life but preserve the environment. Zihua is being loved to death, Playa Blanca is pretty much gone now with few access points.

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by Rogerthat, Wednesday, March 08, 2023, 07:33 (88 days ago) @ Casa Juan

You may be missing Robs environmental point. When I first showed up in 1983 it was a different type of paradise. Like the rest of the planet balancing capitalism along with water and animals is a delicate task but can be accomplished intellectually. The money and blind greed coming from el Norte seems to flow even stronger than the alcohol here lately.

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by mcnuttja, Wednesday, March 08, 2023, 08:04 (88 days ago) @ Rogerthat

Ummmm, based upon this discussion here I assume you are all native to the area???..no??.....What a hypocritical discussion, to say the least.

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by Padrino ⌂ @, San Diego/Rosarito, Wednesday, March 08, 2023, 09:15 (88 days ago) @ mcnuttja

... I assume you are all native to the area?

Unless you grew up in Central Africa, we all came from somewhere else.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, March 08, 2023, 09:29 (88 days ago) @ mcnuttja

Ummmm, based upon this discussion here I assume you are all native to the area???..no??.....What a hypocritical discussion, to say the least.

Hypocritical? There's nothing hypocritical about calling out the destruction of our community's main attraction to satisfy greed or egos. You make a silly allusion about natives and miss the entire point. Feeling guilty about something?

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by mcnuttja, Thursday, March 09, 2023, 07:00 (87 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Not feeling guilty at all. I got the point of the post, but the irony is astounding. An ex-pat claiming that "tourists" and tourism is destroying Zihua is the definition of irony......BTW Rob, your arrogance once again rears it's ugly head......

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, March 09, 2023, 07:25 (87 days ago) @ mcnuttja

Not feeling guilty at all. I got the point of the post, but the irony is astounding. An ex-pat claiming that "tourists" and tourism is destroying Zihua is the definition of irony......BTW Rob, your arrogance once again rears it's ugly head......

What's the difference between being a citizen of another country and someone who moved from one town to another? Do you live where you were born? Do you care about your community? I've lived here longer than anywhere else I've ever lived. I've got blood sweat and tears and deceased family members in the ground here. You?

Worry about your own arrogance. I've said the same thing in every tourist destination I've lived as have many other residents of tourist destinations. Could your problem with it simply be a reflex of your own cognitive dissonance? ;-)

I'm going to politely suggest that if you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the discussion and just want to bitch to cover your own shortcomings, maybe it'd be a better idea for you to keep your thoughts to yourself. Your negativity and public rudeness only reflects poorly upon you.

Have a nice day! :-)

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by mosesk @, Ojai, CA, USA, Thursday, March 09, 2023, 07:53 (87 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

If this thread is about the ZIGF, once again there has been some astoundingly excellent music that has been heard

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by Curly! @, Great Pacific Northwet, Wednesday, March 08, 2023, 10:59 (88 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

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Spot on Rob. It's happening everywhere. I fear that greed is destroying more habitat than can be tolerated by our ecosystem. Mother Earth will rebound. We will not.

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by Leemr @, Wednesday, March 08, 2023, 19:23 (87 days ago) @ Curly!

Spot on, Curly. Look at the USA and what Mother nature is doing. The process of rebounding, OR is it taking revenge? It's not nice to f--k with mother nature,,,,,,,you'll loose!

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by frostbite @, Hamilton MT, Thursday, March 09, 2023, 05:33 (87 days ago) @ Leemr

Ah, but to f--k IN Mother Nature! Fond memories of an old fart.

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by Kiawahkate, Friday, March 10, 2023, 18:48 (85 days ago) @ Curly!

How are you doing, Curly? I've missed your comments lately and know you've had some health issues. You were so kind to me years ago.

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by Curly! @, Great Pacific Northwet, Wednesday, March 15, 2023, 13:43 (80 days ago) @ Kiawahkate

Thanks for your comments. I am a good 80% of my pre cancer, pre (debilitating) lumbar stenosis. Thank God for Kaiser. The remaining 20% will arrive shortly. June second will be six months from the back surgery and they tell me that's when I'll be at my Catalina stair stepping best. That said, I do like that Casa Maya Rob posted about the other day. I sent it to the family and suggested it for October.:vacation:

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