https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=oM9ccvPXq1I
Sent to me buy a family from Aguascalientes.
Myth About Cartels
by ZihuaRob
, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, June 07, 2016, 10:57 (3812 days ago) @ Mexalberta
This is exactly the wrong message. This is like the Pope and the so-called Right To Lifer's saying that abstentionism works. BS!
The government should never have endeavored to proscribe which substances its citizens could use recreationally or not. It never was their job. They can regulate and tax, but the lessons of Prohibition are quite clear. Pot, opium and cocaine were only banned because black jazz players were known to use them, and the inherent racism in US society dictated that we couldn't allow them to enjoy themselves. It was a propaganda coup convincing most of the rest of the world that the US government was acting out of moral authority and to construct their laws similarly in order to be considered "civilized" countries.
What DOES work is decriminalization, legalization, regulation and education. But when dealing with a nation that thinks it's okay to rig elections and to start wars based on lies and that it is exceptional and that it is not held to the same standards and ethics as other nations, then obviously we are dealing with a nation with other than altruistic and honorable interests that first must get past its own self-serving propaganda and self-aggrandizement. While a few US states have taken important baby steps by legalizing pot to various degrees, the elephant in the room remains ignored. And the multi-billion dollar black market controlled by violent organized criminals continues unabated. There's only one way to diminish their power.
Myth About Cartels
by Mexalberta
, Tuesday, June 07, 2016, 14:45 (3812 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
I guess that is why Peyton Manning invested in 23 Papa Johns in Colorado
Myth About Cartels
by El león, Tuesday, June 07, 2016, 21:51 (3812 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
and drugs were banned long before "black musicians" used them...........
Myth About Cartels
by ZihuaRob
, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 08:38 (3811 days ago) @ El león
and drugs were banned long before "black musicians" used them...........
Thanks for the source from a Clinton appointee that simply reinforces what millions of us already know: that Billary is part of the problem, not the solution. Experiences around the world prove the article's author entirely wrong.
As to your claim that "drugs were banned long before black musicians used them", I believe historical references prove otherwise.
From Wikipedia:
History of the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act - the first comprehensive U.S. federal law banning popular intoxicating substances based not on medical arguments but on racist fears.
In 1900, the Journal of the American Medical Association published an editorial stating, "Negroes in the South are reported as being addicted to a new form of vice – that of 'cocaine sniffing' or the 'coke habit.'" Some newspapers later claimed cocaine use caused blacks to rape white women and was improving their pistol marksmanship. Chinese immigrants were blamed for importing the opium-smoking habit to the U.S. The 1903 blue-ribbon citizens' panel, the Committee on the Acquirement of the Drug Habit, concluded, "If the Chinaman cannot get along without his dope we can get along without him."
Theodore Roosevelt appointed Dr. Hamilton Wright as the first Opium Commissioner of the United States in 1908. In 1909, Wright attended the International Opium Commission in Shanghai as the American delegates. He was accompanied by Charles Henry Brent, the Episcopal Bishop. On March 12, 1911, Dr. Wright was quoted in as follows in an article in the New York Times: "Of all the nations of the world, the United States consumes most habit-forming drugs per capita. Opium, the most pernicious drug known to humanity, is surrounded, in this country, with far fewer safeguards than any other nation in Europe fences it with."[8] Wright further claimed that "it has been authoritatively stated that cocaine is often the direct incentive to the crime of rape by the negroes of the South and other sections of the country," though he failed to mention specifically which authorities had stated that, and did not provide any evidence for his claim.[9] Wright also stated that "one of the most unfortunate phases of smoking opium in this country is the large number of women who have become involved and were living as common-law wives or cohabitating with Chinese in the Chinatowns of our various cities".
Opium usage had begun to decline by 1914 after rising dramatically in the post Civil War Era, peaking at around one-half million pounds per year in 1896.[12] Demand gradually declined thereafter in response to mounting public concern, local and state regulations, and the Pure Food and Drugs Act of 1906, which required labeling of patent medicines that contained opiates, cocaine, alcohol, cannabis and other intoxicants.[13] As of 1911, an estimated one U.S. citizen in 400 (0.25%) was addicted to some form of opium.[8] The opium addicts were mostly women who were prescribed and dispensed legal opiates by physicians and pharmacist for “female problems” (probably pain at menstruation) or white men and Chinese at the Opium dens. Between two-thirds and three-quarters of these addicts were women.[14] By 1914, forty-six states had regulations on cocaine and twenty-nine states had laws against opium, morphine, and heroin.
Several authors have argued that the debate was merely to regulate trade and collect a tax. However, the committee report[17] prior to the debate on the house floor and the debate itself, discussed the rise of opiate use in the United States. Harrison stated that "The purpose of this Bill can hardly be said to raise revenue, because it prohibits the importation of something upon which we have hitherto collected revenue." Later Harrison stated, "We are not attempting to collect revenue, but regulate commerce." House representative Thomas Sisson stated, "The purpose of this bill—and we are all in sympathy with it—is to prevent the use of opium in the United States, destructive as it is to human happiness and human life."
The drafters played on fears of “drug-crazed, sex-mad negroes” and made references to Negroes under the influence of drugs murdering whites, degenerate Mexicans smoking marijuana, and “Chinamen” seducing white women with drugs.[19][20] Dr. Hamilton Wright, testified at a hearing for the Harrison Act. Wright alleged that drugs made blacks uncontrollable, gave them superhuman powers and caused them to rebel against white authority. Dr. Christopher Koch of the State Pharmacy Board of Pennsylvania testified that "Most of the attacks upon the white women of the South are the direct result of a cocaine-crazed Negro brain".
Before the Act was passed, on February 8, 1914, The New York Times published an article entitled "Negro Cocaine 'Fiends' Are New Southern Menace: Murder and Insanity Increasing Among Lower-Class Blacks" by Edward Huntington Williams, which reported that Southern sheriffs had increased the caliber of their weapons from .32 to .38 to bring down Negroes under the effect of cocaine.
Despite the extreme racialization of the issue that took place in the buildup to the Act's passage, the contemporary research on the subject indicated that black Americans were in fact using cocaine and opium at much lower rates than white Americans.
I stand by my previous comments.
Myth About Cartels
by El león, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 19:09 (3811 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
edited by El león, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 19:22
Really James!
After all the times you lambasted posters for quoting Wikipedia, now you stoop that low yourself to reply to my post. Tsk Tsk! If that's the best you can do, stick to website design and travel promotion.
Try this on for size.
Myth About Cartels
by mnice, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 07:39 (3811 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
One question Rob~is it "Legal" to use drugs in Mexico?
Myth About Cartels
by mnice, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 08:47 (3811 days ago) @ mnice
Since I have received no reply on my question, I will answer it myself. Pot and cocaine are both illegal to use in Mexico. It is "ok", (according to the upstanding Mexican police who catches you with it) to have in your possession up to 1/2 gram of cocaine and up to 5 grams of pot, but, it is illegal to grow each of the plants that produce it. So Rob, is the pot you so openly brag about smoking grown legally by fairies and gnomes? And why is it ok for you to "bash" the US for not legalizing these drugs when the country YOU live in hasn't legalized them either?
Myth About Cartels
by ZihuaRob
, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 09:03 (3811 days ago) @ mnice
Since I have received no reply on my question, I will answer it myself. Pot and cocaine are both illegal to use in Mexico. It is "ok", (according to the upstanding Mexican police who catches you with it) to have in your possession up to 1/2 gram of cocaine and up to 5 grams of pot, but, it is illegal to grow each of the plants that produce it. So Rob, is the pot you so openly brag about smoking grown legally by fairies and gnomes? And why is it ok for you to "bash" the US for not legalizing these drugs when the country YOU live in hasn't legalized them either?
I did answer your question.
Once again, another citizen shows intolerance to criticism of the USA, labeling any such criticism as "US bashing". Can't even have an adult discussion...
How long does a policy have to fail before we can discuss fixing it?
#PobrePueblo
Myth About Cartels
by ZihuaRob
, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 08:57 (3811 days ago) @ mnice
One question Rob~is it "Legal" to use drugs in Mexico?
You already know the answer to your question. Mexico follows the USA's lead. "Drugs" weren't illegal in Mexico until the USA conditioned financial assistance on Mexico playing ball. Even so, although stupid laws mimicking the USA's were created, Mexico didn't play ball for decades until the USA threatened Mexico with further sanctions, retaliation and retribution in various forms. Mexico didn't have a real problem with "drug" abuse and addiction until relatively recently as huge amounts of popular recreational substances destined for the USA also found their way into Mexican bars and schools. This thanks to the DEA's intervention in Columbia that made Mexico the king of the narcotic trade.
In the absence of legislative progress on the matter and due to the increasing intolerable senseless violence as organized criminals fight over territories and routes, the Mexican Corte Suprema de la Justicia has taken a bold judicial step and claimed that its citizens have a right to ingest recreational intoxicating substances just as they have the right to control their own lives and do with them as they wish as long as they don't harm others. The use of popular recreational substances by itself is by definition a victimless crime. A group of citizens successfully sued to have the right to grow their own pot for their own recreational use, never mind that none of the members of the group smokes pot. The court found in their favor and granted them permission. Even though they are unable to rewrite laws on the books, they gave notice to legislators that they will no longer enforce them and that new laws must be written to take into account their new judicial precedent. Now we only await as more citizens and interest groups bring similar lawsuits before the Corte Suprema. I believe that after 5 such lawsuits successfully make it through the judicial system the Corte Suprema will be able to invalidate current archaic law and establish their precedent as the law of the land.
Narcos and both Mexican and US authorities don't want to change the status quo. I wonder why? All that free unaccounted for money they'll stand to lose. All those regular payoffs they'll no longer receive. Billions of black market profits will be lost.
Myth About Cartels
by frostbite
, Hamilton MT, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 09:23 (3811 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
While I wholeheartedly agree that drugs should be legalized and controlled, I seriously doubt that the members of the drug cartels will suddenly be looking for legitimate employment, if it happens.
Myth About Cartels
by ZihuaRob
, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 11:39 (3811 days ago) @ frostbite
While I wholeheartedly agree that drugs should be legalized and controlled, I seriously doubt that the members of the drug cartels will suddenly be looking for legitimate employment, if it happens.
Why not? It's certainly possible considering they are heavily invested in real estate, tourism (including hotels, restaurants and bars right here in Zihuatanejo), mining, construction, banking, communications, and transportation. The Kennedy's became "legit" after Prohibition was repealed. And look at Las Vegas, a stellar example of what can happen when criminal enterprises go "legit".
To lighten the tone:
by frostbite
, Hamilton MT, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 12:26 (3811 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
Just in from a friend:
A koala was sitting in a gum tree smoking a joint.
A little lizard walked past, looked up and said: "Hey, Koala! What are you doing"?
The koala said: "Smoking a joint. Come up and have some."
So the lizard climbed up and sat next to the koala and enjoyed a few hits.
After a while the little lizard said that his mouth was dry and that he was going to get a drink from the river.
The little lizard was so stoned that he leaned over too far and fell into the river.
A crocodile saw this, swam over to the little lizard and helped him to the bank. The he asked the little lizard: "What's the matter with you?"
The little lizard explained to the crocodile that he had been sitting in the tree with the koala, smoking a joint, but got so stoned, that he fell into the river trying to take a drink.
The crocodile said that he had to check this out, walked into the rain forest and found the tree where the koala was sitting finishing the joint.
The koala looked down at him and said: ""Shiiiit, dude, how much water did you drink?"
To lighten the tone:
by Charlybby, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 23:50 (3811 days ago) @ frostbite
Good one!!! Lmao!!
Might As Well Look At Facts
by mexicowanderer, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 14:26 (3811 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
![[image]](http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jacobsullum/files/2015/02/NHTSA-crash-risk-table5.jpg)
Might As Well Look At Facts
by Mexalberta
, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 15:31 (3811 days ago) @ mexicowanderer
The video wasn't about acciidents
Might As Well Look At Facts
by dhunsber
, ¡Dondequiera que voy, estoy aquí!, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 16:15 (3811 days ago) @ mexicowanderer
What is the source of these figures?
For all anyone can tell, you just made them up and posted them here.
Too bad cell phone use -especially texting- was not included.
Might As Well Look At Facts
by Charlybby, Wednesday, June 08, 2016, 23:53 (3811 days ago) @ mexicowanderer
Don't believe everything you read! Many "facts" can be misconstrued 

